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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 05:54 PM Original message |
Obama v. Obama on signing statements |
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CelticThunder (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. At this point in the game, it's clear how Obama rolls. If he campaigned against it, he does it. If |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That is NOT true. President Obama has fulfilled many campaign promises. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 10:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Hahahaha! Yeah right. Bits of cheese to keep the pols in line. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 04:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
28. You're on point this is nothing more than a Goldman Sachs admin! |
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SlimJimmy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
3. I agree with everything you've said. |
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Dokkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-17-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
5. bookmarked for later |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. latest scholarly articles see signing statements validly |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. if presidents want a line item veto |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. the line item veto argument and abuse of separation of powers |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. horseshit |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. not so fast |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. is this really the argument you want to make? |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. misinterpreting the Take Care Clause |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Misinterpreting eh? |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. yes you heard me right so let me say it even clearer |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. you argued from authority |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. and finally |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. an anatomy of your inconsistency |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 04:11 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. long post sorry |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Admission of Skidmore prevents blanket negation |
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HankyDubs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. your house of cards has collapsed |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. my house survives earthquakes but nice try and good exercise |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 08:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I believe you misunderstand his application of the term fraud. Greenwald |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. fraud still isn't appropriate |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I don't think you were trying to burst any bubbles, and Greenwald |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. even if we disagree, this is not a significant broken promise |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I agree this won't hurt Obama in 2012. The conversation about them, |
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LandR (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. cheers |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
10. Campaign Mode Obama vs the Real Obama....like night and day. nt |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-18-11 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
25. Adding an opinion discussed back in 2007 . |
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jonthebru (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-19-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. Signing statements remain in effect |
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