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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 05:58 AM
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How real is China's growth?
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2011/05/chinas_economy_1

I'M NOW back from China, and I'm going to resist the temptation to draw grand, sweeping conclusions based on two weeks jaunting around the country. I will tell you some of my impressions, however. And I'll start with the primary question on my mind as I left to visit China: how real is its economic growth?

I came away from China a bit less worried about property issues than I'd been going in. Don't get me wrong, China is building an enormous amount of new housing, and quite a lot of that new housing is standing empty, even as prices rise. But this isn't necessarily the problem many people suspect, for a few reasons. For one thing, the flow of new demand for housing seems sure. Millions of Chinese remain underhoused while real incomes are soaring. In some cases, the Chinese government is coordinating the construction of several years' worth of demand for new homes all at once, justifiably confident that new units will ultimately be occupied. In other cases, Chinese workers are buying up new units as investment vehicles—but are using savings, rather than debt, to fund the purchases. It's not impossible, or even that unlikely, that prices in the main cities may fall, but it would be wrong to assume that China's property markets operate in the way American markets do and share the same vulnerabilities.

Tightening restrictions on household purchases, and tightening credit, designed to rein in booming private construction, may produce a squeeze in some segments of the real estate market, leading to pain for some on the development and transactional side of the market. But a slowdown in private construction is unlikely to gut the broader economy, thanks to a massive government push for affordable housing construction that will keep workers and suppliers busy. And the government has the will and the ability to make sure any broader loan troubles are contained. I won't begin to argue that there aren't huge inefficiencies and costs to this system, but it doesn't look like the kind of structure that's likely to collapse, bringing the economy down with it. It's clear where the risk ultimately lies—with the government—and it's clear that the government can handle it.

What little I saw of China's manufacturing sector reinforced my sense that it's an impressive and productive part of the economy. China's manufacturing also spans the value-added chain. In the large coastal cities, deindustrialisation is already a reality; labour-intensive factories have already left for cheaper markets, leaving high-tech manufacturing and a growing service sector behind. In the poorer west, by contrast, the scope for movement up the value chain remains significant. Much of what rapid growth China has left will be powered, in no small, part, by the convergence of western provinces toward coastal development levels, and this process is well underway.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 06:46 AM
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1. I spent two weeks in China last fall visiting a manufacturing facility
I was in an industrial area about 2 hours south of Beijing. I am not sure I completely agree with the articles observations. They are building so fast and furious, now manufacturing, new housing and new transportation.

It was an amazing clash of new and old, the old guys out on the street with brooms made from brush and lorries overfilled to the point they are top heavy. Traffic in the cities is stop and go 24/7.

Factory after factory with workers being bussed in from where ever. Most of the workers in the factory I was visiting were bussed from more than an hour away.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 07:21 AM
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2. i think the 2 points of view make an interesting cross roads.
and i think we should always question what we are told is so.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 07:59 AM
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3. He says their economy is not "nimble".
I do wonder what that means. It seems to be a prediction that their economy will not be able to adapt to change well, which seems contrary to observation. It also makes me wonder how "nimble" he thinks the British economy is.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 08:21 AM
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4. it's not the first time i've heard that said about china.
what that means -- i don't know.

it think he is mostly doubting the standard view we've been given.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-11 03:37 PM
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5. Much of China's growth is based on building that no one occupies.
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