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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:37 PM
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Salon: The right really, really wants Obama to be Jimmy Carter
Friday, Jun 17, 2011 13:08 ET
War Room
The right really, really wants Obama to be Jimmy Carter
By Steve Kornacki



On Wednesday, The Weekly Standard's Jay Cost likened President Obama's current political predicament to what Jimmy Carter faced at roughly this same point in his single term in office, when Carter delivered his "malaise speech." It's a pretty flimsy parallel, and if you're interested in why, Jonathan Bernstein did fine job picking apart Cost's argument.

What's interesting is how often we hear this from the right -- the idea that Obama's presidency represents the second coming of Carter's. Cost isn't even the first to invoke the "malaise" speech. Rush Limbaugh did it a year ago, claiming that Obama's message to the nation after the Gulf oil spill was "almost verbatim" what Carter had said back in 1979:

I tell you, it's second term of Jimmy Carter! And it's liberalism 100% through and through. Jimmy Carter, 1979, July 15th, gave the same speech.


Not that Rush was the first to go down this road, either. For instance, a week before that, Fox News' website ran a piece titled "Barack Obama = Jimmy Carter?" in which Jon Kraushar argued that a recent Obama speech on the economy was eerily similar to the "malaise" speech: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/barack_obama/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/06/17/obama_jimmy_carter
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:41 PM
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1. Have they noticed how much better Carter looks in retrospect?
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:44 PM
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2. I noticed a wingnut bumper sticker the other day
that said "It takes a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan." Not buying the Jimmy Carter/Barack Obama comparison but who among the Republicans would be considered their *new* Ronald Reagan exactly. :shrug:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:45 PM
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4. These are the folks who think Ronnie was a saint
Truth shows us he was anything but a saint.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:52 PM
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5. I wasn't politically aware around the time Reagan was in office (was still a kid)
but the mythologizing of him that goes on about him in right-wing circles always struck me as patently ridiculous. The modern day GOP would've considered him a heretic on some things, which goes to show how extreme the modern GOP is.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:07 PM
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6. Those are the types who usually believe Palin is the second coming. nt
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qazplm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 01:10 PM
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7. reagan
would be light years more preferable to the dreck they have over there now, and he was horrible.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:37 PM
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12. Sarah...
these idiots are absolutely in love with her.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:10 PM
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14. their idea of a new Reagan would be more like Pol Pot.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 12:45 PM
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3. The thing that did in Carter wasn't the speech, it was his unwillingness to go after the crimes of
the oil companies and the renegade faction of the CIA aligned with Reagan-Bush Sr. that was negotiating its own foreign policy and arms for hostages swaps.

Had Carter fired James Schessinger and invoked emergency powers to force the major oil companies to release refined product to the retail market, he would have won that election.

Similarly, if he had ordered the FBI to arrest some of the subsidiary October Surprise plotters, a shocked nation would have reelected him by a landslide.

It was his apparent indecision that people didn't like or understand. Carter was too cautious, bipartisan, and conciliatory for his own good. Now, who does that sound like?
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:02 PM
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9. Hear, Hear
Politics is a blood sport, and we haven't had a decent warrior since LBJ.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:46 PM
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16. True dat!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 09:13 AM
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13. Once again I wish I could recommend a post
Especially since the Boys of October were engaged in a highly illegal activity.

-Hoot
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-11 04:34 PM
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15. that
+1000
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 02:45 PM
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8. Carter would have won the election if the internet was around
Reagan's all hat and no cattle and the republican's total corruption of the hostage crisis would have been front and center.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:03 PM
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10. Unsure
Poppy is really good at burying the bones.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-11 05:35 PM
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11. There's probably a number of Dems who would like the same thing. nt
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