Kucinich: The White House Now Conceals Plan to Cut Social Security

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-dennis-kucinich/the-white-house-now-conce_b_910156.html

or is it none of their business?

leave SS and Medicare alone.

problem solved.

They know damn well they don't answer to us.

If they did answer to us, the seventy percent of Americans who want the wars ended would have seen some moves to defund the wars back in 2007 when the Dems had a majority in Congress.

Instead the Democratic majority handled as its first bit of business, a sizable increase on postal rates to small businesses.

Seventy percent of us want Universal Health Care. Instead of having a Democratic President who rallied the nation around that notion, we had a President who claimed he couldn't participate in the discussion because the separation of powers between three branches of government meant he had to let Congress figure it out on its own.

With little in the way of consistency, the President did go ahead and offer up the Republicans the required Bush Tax Cut Extensions. Separation of Powers be damned! I guess the philosophy is, if we give them everything they ask for, before Congress is in session, maybe no one will notice?

And now this whole charade.

They will pull a rabbit/deal out of the hat in the 11th hour, over the weekend.

Works like a "charm", every time :evilgrin:

That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with.

Or maybe something less flattering.

worth a look see.

primary for him - it was so close between Hillary and Barak - what a waste.

Sanders noted last week that 'someone' should primary Obama and that he was looking into many candidates - I hope Kucinich is part of that decision.

Kucinich has a lot more credibility now and I would prefer him negotiating with Bohner rather than the man in the White House.

and just who are you to come here and say that????

... and one of even few left that advocate from a progressive position.

Don't even attempt to speak for other people. SOme people care very much what he says... really... I'm serious.

We wish the rest of the Democratic Party was more like Dennis -we wouldn't be having this "debt crisis" because Dennis would not have signed a bill that extended Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and cut FICA contributions.

When did he get back from gushing about what a swell, beloved leader Assad is?

The propagandists have their work cut out for them.

Not that anyone believes the blue link bullshit they're pushing.

:crazy:

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sounds about right. The Trojan Obama has hollowed out the party like a cancer within.

Somehow, I doubt it.

Still have some more bullshit to spread?

He needs to explain to people that benefits won't be cut instead of embellishing.

Talk about delusional.

DK doesn't utter a word about the Reid plan, only the plan Obama has been pushing for at least 6 months and reiterated only last Friday. St. Dennis of Syria? There's definitely some delusional thinking revealed in your post, but not from Kucinich.

DK lied about that. Why let the lie stand?

Only future beneficiaries, such as myself, were scheduled to be ass raped. Obama is pretty giving when it comes to other people's lives and well being--as long as they aren't Wall Street fat cats.

We need to draft a real progressive to challenge Obama in the primary..

no cuts to CURRENT BENEFICIARIES means FUTURE BENEFICIARIES get fucked.

Does he really think dems are as dumb as the tealiban?

about what he says, wants to project middle of the road inclinations. It's what he does that is dangerous. What he put on the table was a rise in the age of eligibility for Medicare and SSI with Medicare being means tested. By any rational analysis, this = severe benefit cuts. Might be helpful to watch him without the rose colored glasses.

Whether it is Medicare or SS, it all amounts to the same thing. Money out of the pockets of people who can't afford it.

I cannot fathom why anyone still believes a single word Obama says.

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I wish I could believe that - if we're lucky we also won't have the non-defense portions of the Federal Government gutted as well as the few tax write-offs given to the middle class.

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Calling it anything else is semantics.

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But, when you see it coming, it's a pretty good idea to get people out of the way.

Just based on past experience, it's a pretty good bet you're gonna get hit.

Trying to deflect and confuse?

Please post if if it ever is released to the people.

about a pension plan being fleeced by the trustee. What's the difference?

The performance by Obama and Boehner Monday night was masterful.
They presented a well crafted False Dilemma,
and both did a GREAT job selling it to the suckers.
Nobody presented a traditional Democratic Party alternative.
Cutting Spending and "trimming" Social Security/Medicare during a Recession & Jobs Crisis are NOT Democratic Party values.
The are Republican boiler plate.

You were told to pick either The Moderate Republican Plan,
or the Hard Right Republican Plan.

We NOW have "Democrats" calling Congress,
and SUPPORTING having their "Entitlements Trimmed,"
and Government Spending slashed during a Recession & Jobs Crisis.
What about that is hard for some people to understand? :shrug:


I'm glad somebody has the courage to STAND UP and say,
"Hey, Wait a fucking minute."

Thank You, Dennis.






Who will STAND and FIGHT for THIS American Majority?
Dennis Kucinich will!

to have their benefits trimmed? If you mean calling congress to opt for Obama's original traitorous to Democrat plan, that is one thing. But to say what you said misleads people to promote sensationalism.

Social Security & Medicare "Entitlements" sit squarely on THAT table,
unless you are unable to read the writing on the wall.

who are calling think they are doing so to prevent cuts in SS and Medicare. The average person is not an accomplished mind-reader.

and that conclusion supports the deception (mentioned by Kucinich) contained in the False Dilemma Kabuki presented by Obama & Boehner on Monday Night.
A Traditional "Democratic" position of NO cuts to Social Security/Medicare,
Strengthening the Social Safety Net,
and INCREASING Government Spending during a Recession/Jobs Crisis
was NOT presented to the American People as something they can Call In and Support.

"They" played it well.
Those Calling In to support Obama's "balanced approach" have little idea that they are supporting "trimming" their "entitlements".

fury continuously now. I am in the process of calling people I served with in the military years ago, many who are on or will be on some kind of transfer payment. They are as mad as me, and are just waiting. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Why are they terrorizing America's senior citizens?

I know my age 62 pension on my 2011 statement is LESS THAN my age 62 pension on my 2010 statement, even though I haven't had a lapse in employment and my wages have increased each year.

Yes I make $558 a month on Social Security. I am 65 and have some very real disabilities that keep me from working anymore. I had to start paying $206.00 a month out of my check for Medicare this month. Wonder how much my Congressman has to pay for his health care? So very frickin' sad to the women like me that weren't' paid a lot for our jobs. I got an MBA but it was too late to really use it after the Hedge-fund Fundies took over.

The reason I ask is that my mom's SS check is around $800/month, has no other assests except a checking accoung, and she pays nothing for Medicare. I don't know where you live but you may also want to check into any state programs. Mom's "supplement" is picked up by the county she lives in so anything Medicare doesn't cover, that does including her prescriptions (small copay on those), glasses & hearing aids. She's really wound up with fantastic coverage - I'm just hoping that hasn't been cut with all the problems with Minnesota's budget.

I'm just wondering if you got some bad advice and might need to talk to someone else at SS. As I've been trying to straighten out my brother's account (they over paid after his death) I've found that there seem to be a real difference between how knowledgable the workers are and that it pays to go into the office in person rather than deal with it over the phone.

Appreciate your time. :hi:

Hi - I called Social Security this morning and they told me I pay $115.00 a month for my Medicare - sorry I told you before it was $206 - either way it is a whole heck of a lot out of $674.00 a month SS payment.

Have a great day!

but 17% of your income is way too much. Maybe someday we'll have a civilized health care system in the U.S.

:hi:

Obama cannot be trusted..Great speeches,lots of promises that are broken.Lets face it..Every major piece of legislation that has passed while he has been President,he has caved to the Republicans that he calls a bipartisan bill...
So why should we expect anything different with the deficit,debt ceiling bill...
His corporate sponsors are more important to him than the people that cast their vote for him.

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=253400

:think:

Alas. He is neither. He wants to cut SS. He wants it. He has bought the "common" wisdom of his youth, the reagan years, the reagan lies.

He's betrayed us in sooo many ways, again.

The economic crisis has persisted too long and even the Presidents own actuary reports that Social Security has been running a deficit since 2010. Social Security and Medicare are simply unsustainable and that is the simple truth, putting your head in the sand won't make it go away.

The earlier the funding problems are dealt with the better it will be for everyone.... here is the link to the actuarial report....



http://www.ssa.gov/oact/trsum/index.html

SS holds trillions in U.S. Debt that it can redeem for "cash". The trust fund isnt a bank account, its special Treasurey notes- IOUs. To redeem the U.S. treasurey can do one of three things- raise taxes to cover the debt, issue more debt to cover the SS debt, or it could transfer it to the federal reserve which could "monetize it" (this would require an act of congress because it would be the transfer of the entire SS debt to the fed's balance sheet