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drakonyx (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 03:12 PM Original message |
Do You Prefer to Speak English? That Doesn't Make You a Racist |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. If I lived in another country I would expect to speak their language. Just from logic |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 12:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
19. Or maybe Paiute? Or Shoshone? Or Walapai? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Bingo. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. Oh good. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well, thank you for sharing that with us. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
4. Prefer? Or insist on it? |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Funny you say that while having a tirade. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. You should have |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Hard to sit down and talk chinese |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. So did mine....at times |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 05:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. one language- common thread |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. And little children learn it like every other language |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Okay hard to spell this out to you |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. You said it right language is LEARNED |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. you really have no idea what you are talking about |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. But not a monolingual one... |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. True...Yes, a common bond..Being officially bi-lingual didn't help Canada in that regard. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. But it hasn't hurt Finland (Finnish and Swedish) or Switzerland (four official |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 04:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
85. Their problems, in part, are linguistic and I have it on the words of Canadians themselves. n/t |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. But the linguistic problems are a symptom of deep-seated |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 10:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
79. Wish you'd make this an OP. It explains a lot |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. I have studied Chinese and speak it at a tourist level, and your statement |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. gee, my mom spoke until she died |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Yes, I know the tones change the meaning |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. duh! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 09:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. You're the one who said that Chinese doesn't have words |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:11 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. you speak chinese on a tourist level |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Here's what YOU said: |
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wilt the stilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 11:06 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. the real question is |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:15 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. And nobody is saying that immigrants shouldn't learn English |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
89. YOUR ignorance is showing. |
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PhoenixAbove (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
54. Excuse me. Dumb because I only speak English??? |
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cheapdate (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. "But I shouldn't have to speak a foreign language" |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. And the devil's advocate says... |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. Not always true - about the good jobs. My brother was the only white |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Who is DISCOURAGING immigrants from learning English? |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #50 |
74. True dat. |
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drakonyx (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:38 PM Original message |
May not be popular with some ... |
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drakonyx (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. May not be popular with some ... |
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dtexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yo no se. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. I prefer English but I wish that I spoke German like my father did. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. German is a splendid language. |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Bestimmt! |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. one German's opinion on language: |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Rotfl! |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Damn - don't have a horse either. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
91. I've been told by non-native speakers of English that they consider English harsh-sounding |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. LOL Thanks for the I love you - now I know that. But I don't think I need |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. Ich liebe dich. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:42 PM Response to Reply #34 |
90. I tried to learn German and failed. Strange that a language so closely related to English is... |
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cyberswede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
9. "And I shouldn't have to pay for ballots to be printed ..." |
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Leontius (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Is five years long enough to learn English? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
47. Especially when many of the Spanish speaking people helped us |
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MrDiaz (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. If i went to any other country |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. No - but you can be damned sure that, in your dealings with any |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
81. ENGLISH ALREADY *IS* LINGUA FRANCA!!!! |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. Anything that says "I'm not a racist,..." is generally racist. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
17. This is one of those issue I find a puzzle. I don't understand WHY the US does not promote |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-08-11 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. i don't want to pay for ballots for the blind.. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 12:28 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I don't want to pay for ballots for Republicans |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 12:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. ... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. sounds good! |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
58. Touche! |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
22. Preferring to speak English certainly doesn't make someone a racist. |
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Fuddnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
25. I don't prefer to speak English, I have to. |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
27. drakonyx |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Diclotican |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
51. I was impressed with the level of English ability in Norway |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Lydia Leftcoast |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Tusen takk |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 11:27 PM Response to Reply #56 |
88. I'll sometimes talk to my Norwegian relatives on Skype and they speak English as good as... |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
28. As a former ESL instructor |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. excellent points... |
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cyberswede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I wish I could rec this reply. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Fully fluent? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. As a former foreign language instructor, I agree with everything you've said |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
75. I believe that English has one of the most complex vocabulary structures... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Actually, I think phrasal verbs are the biggest nightmare! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:01 AM Response to Reply #82 |
92. Native Spanish speakers tell me that Phrasal Verbs are the toughest thing about English. |
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drakonyx (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:13 AM Response to Reply #28 |
80. Some excellent information |
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ATLdemocrat (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
31. The schools should teach multiple languages as early as possible |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
37. Personally, I wish I were Swiss and spoke several languages natively |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-09-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Because they like being ignorant |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. And if Americans spoke other languages, they might be tempted to travel overseas, |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
67. The Swiss had to become multi-lingual because of their geographic/political situation |
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primavera (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Certainly |
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cheapdate (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
61. "But I shouldn't have to speak a foreign language" |
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MissMillie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
72. I worked at a college for many years |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
77. No, pero esta un idiota. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-13-11 12:05 AM Response to Reply #77 |
93. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000! Este post me gusta! |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
78. I hope they called Nevada "snowed" in their English-only moments. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
83. Preferring to speak English does not make one a racist but demanding that ballots only be in |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
84. Title is misleading. It is not just about "preferring to speak English". |
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BigDemVoter (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-12-11 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
87. Just from your title. . . |
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