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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:10 PM
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Wall Street Will Never Be the Same Again
Wall Street Will Never Be the Same Again

Reuters | Rebecca Greenfield | Nov 22, 2011

The financial jobs market isn't doing well and no one expects it to make a comeback anytime soon, if ever. The latest stats and testimonials out of the financial sector shows that Wall Streeters are going through another round of 2008-style lay-offs. This year, so far, the global financial-services industry has lost 200,000 jobs, reports Bloomberg's Max Abelson and Ambereen Choudhury. That's up from 174,000 in 2009 -- that horrifying year everything fell apart. But beyond shear numbers, the scary part about these layoffs for prospective bankers is that the jobs don't look like they're coming back anytime soon.

*snip*

There's something bigger going on here than shrinking economy, it's a paradigm shift. Industry headcount has dropped 17 percent since 2008, reports Roose. And young bankers are feeling it most. "The number of investment bank and brokerage firm employees between the ages 20 and 34 fell by 25 percent from the third quarter of 2008 to the same period of 2011, a loss of 110,000 jobs from layoffs, attrition and voluntary departures," continues Roose.

For Occupy Wall Streeters hoping to inspire this very type of change, this might be good news. But for the individual banker, who believes they worked hard, it's not as exciting. "These are by far my darkest days," former Jeffries banker Scott Schubert told Max Abelson and Ambereen Choudhury. Steve Ferdman, a recently laid-off banker seconds that sentiment. "I did everything right. I came into work every day, I put in long hours, and I still got punched in the face," he said. "People shouldn’t want to work in this industry anymore."

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- Steve Ferdman, we feel your pain. As the great philosopher John McClane once said:
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:12 PM
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1. Cry me a fucking river, assholes!
You can't make a living fucking over the blue collar working class which is the backbone that built this economy forever without it fucking you!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:21 PM
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4. +1000 +++ n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:56 PM
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12. commodity speculators, that market's equivalent of these pimps
have caused starvation in east africa with their shit. may they all burn
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:23 PM
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5. When the company's stock he once sold.....
...downsized and the price went up, he got bonuses. And then he thought such a thing as firing people for profits was just peachy. He is now learning the reverse of that concept.

- He'll need some time to get used to things.....


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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:16 PM
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2. To quote Martin Sheen's character in "Wall Street":

"Stop going for the easy buck and start producing something with your life. Create, instead of living off the buying and selling of others."


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:31 PM
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8. Martin Sheen was in Wall Street? I remember Michael Douglas, and
Charlie (yes, that one) Sheen....but Martin (the President on Tee Vee on that West Wing show...), I don't remember!
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:32 PM
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9. Yep. He was Bud Fox's father.....
Edited on Sat Nov-26-11 09:34 PM by marmar
Art imitates life.


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:34 PM
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10. BINGO!!!! YES--I remember now!
It's been eons since I have seen that film!

You are quite right.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:18 PM
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3. BFD!!! Many of us did the same, "I did everything right. I came into work every day,
I put in long hours, and I still got punched in the face," he said. "People shouldn’t want to work in this industry anymore."

What makes a banker so F'en special, pushing peoples money around. Some of us did significant technological advancements and still got screwed. As I said, banker, BFD.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:27 PM
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6. _
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:27 PM
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7. This is very good news. Thank you. nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:46 PM
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23. I'm sure that.....
...Mr. Ferdman would disagree with your assessment. And the Mrs. Ferdman probably does too.

- From Neiman-Marcus to Target!!! Such sacrifices these job-creators make for us......
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 09:34 PM
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11. The poor guys. Now they know how the blacksmiths,garment workers,
and call center employees felt.

Assholes !
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 10:10 PM
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13. I'll get you a McDonald's ap. nt
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 10:11 PM
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14. True - and a little graphic of that I'm fond of:


Things are in better balance now, as many of them have lost 90% of their value and the Volker Rule prohibiting market speculation is in effect as a part of the Dodd-Frank Bill.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 11:19 PM
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16. Prices are way down, but they have issued many shares,
so market caps are not as far off as that now from the peaks...still off a bunch though - especially due to the Europeans of late.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-11 10:56 PM
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15. "People shouldn’t want to work in this industry anymore." Exactly right. How eloquent.
It should be a hard, ugly, moderately paid job of extremely limited personal power and tight regulation, appealing more to the actuary type than the adrenalin addict.

The question is, what laws do we need to change in order to create such an environment?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:50 PM
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24. Adopt.....
...the http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/China-property-boss-sentenced-afpsg-1249658267.html?x=0">China model of dealing with fraudsters?

- Somehow I think even many liberals might support this change in the law......
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:55 AM
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17. I still got punched in the face
Come by my house
I'll be glad to really punch you in the face
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:10 AM
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18. Live by the punch...
Die by the punch, Mr. Ferdman.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:14 AM
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19. Nothing is more amusing than a whiney rich person. nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:41 PM
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22. Ain't it the truth.
Now he'll have to use yellow mustard in place of his regular Grey Poupon!

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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 11:54 AM
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20. but what will we tell the children?
when that mercedes 450 sel isn't wrapped in a bow under the tree, or their trip to see the titanic has been cancelled(I saw where that underwater trip is only $57,900 per person). Ahh, the humanity of it all.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 01:55 PM
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25. That's nothing.....
...wait'll they find out their gonna have to go to the public schools!!!!

- They're gonna love their first frisking......
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The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 12:40 PM
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21. "The great philosopher John McCane ..."
:rofl:

There is plagiarism in my immediate future. You're just going to have to get over it.

:yourock:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 02:07 PM
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26. Imitation.....
...yada, yada, yada and all that.

- I am honored to be plagiarized.



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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-11 05:35 PM
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27. Well, Mr. Ferdman, The Market no longer needs you.
Feel that slap? That was the Invisible Hand. Welcome to reality.
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