The Groping Governor

The Groping Governor
By Wendy Leigh, Daily Mail
18 August 2003
On October 7, barring an act of God, Arnold Schwarzenegger will be elected Governor of California. As the former bodybuilder takes the helm of the world’s fifth richest economy, Maria Shriver, his wife of 17 years, will take her place by his side as First Lady, a role she was born to play.

Maria is the poised, glamorous niece of John F. Kennedy. She’s a TV personality, best-selling author and the mother of Arnold’s four children. Above all, she is a classic Kennedy wife, bred to ignore a boorish husband’s infidelities and chauvinistic behaviour towards women.

Until earlier this month, when Arnold’s latest film, Terminator 3, was released, it wasn’t clear whether he was planning to run for Governor, or was just using the possibility as a means to promote his movie. Some suggested he was hesitating because he didn’t want to expose his family to the inevitable scrutiny of his private life that would ensue.

For although Arnold portrays himself as a faithful husband, besotted by his beautiful princess, there is ample evidence that he has had numerous dalliances with other women.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/showbiz/articles/6270067?source=Daily%20Mail

I'd find the nearest baseball bat and beat the hell out of him.

To this date, no one has ever been able to achieve the size of biceps Arnold had in his prime. As a bodybuilder myself I read allot about Arnold for pointers.

He's not first in the polls. The writer is assuming that Californians are that stupid--I don't think they are.

Dirk

:hi:

George Murphy, Sonny Bono and of course the one and only
Ronald Reagan. Don't bet on it.

Sounds from the article like the gent has some serious unresolved personal issues or all of his dogs are not barking.
What a gutteral reprobate! Still reprobate or not his complete lack of political competence and knowledge of the issues is what disqualifies him from being governor. Even so Maria Shriver should boot his sorry butt right out the door.

Amazing that Republicans are working for this guy
who has such disrespect for women and gave Hillary
a hard time for staying with Bill...

.... was going to ask where have all the finger wagging Rethug moralists gone were who were excoriating President Clinton for lesser behavior but as you say they are all busy these days working for the porcine Mr. McFeelys campaign!

and sexual harrassment. Thank God for the London journalists
writing about this.

coz I still can't believe no one is talking
about this in the American media....

of anything minute or insignificant that Chelsea Clinton might do at Oxford even though she is not someone who is a candidate for office like PigBoy II. Ah, yet another nail in the coffin of the myth of the "liberal media."

is the problem.

Niether does the british media. it's all lies and innuendo with no merit.

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You both still haven't addressed Wendy Leigh's article.

Doncha wonder why the Bush regime isn't back arnold?

Remember, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

The events in this pack of lies never took place.

You've expressed this before but the London paper article
that named names is under stricter libel laws than
the US...I haven't seen a lawsuit filed by Ahnold
disputing these claims. Maybe he's hoping no one will
talk about them.

Friend of Arnold's are you?

Our children ride together.

I know the kennedy family too. What else would you like to know?

autographs; that'd be a wee bit tacky, don't you think?

Worked with bobby nixon and bobby kennedy & the NRDC on a documentary few years back; we got an academy award nomination for that work; sting was in it, down the amazon, cool film. Worked with another fellow, Jerome Garry, who directed AS's first film that looked at the whole body building thing. All those guys know each other from MV. Nixon is Aggie Nixon's kid, she invented the soap opera, and he was neighbors to the kennedy boys. He produced Gorillas in the Mist. Best friends with Bobby, John... saw him at the funeral...

Then our kids (AS's) have ended up riding in shows and at various social events over the years... our kid's school are contemporaries and we know many of the same people; it's no big deal, just a small world, but among the people they call their friends, there is no gossip or rumor mongering about any impropriety whatsoever. They're a solid, healthy, happy family, unlike the freaks infesting the white house.

I got no reason to make stuff up. I think the guy has potential, and I dig the kennedy family. AS is a kennedy and he's a good man.

What you need to focus on, instead of my personal life, is why the bush regime won't back AS... that alone is merit enough to consider him a valid tool to take out the bush regime. Chink in the armor.

The evidence would indicate that, quite to the contrary, Mr. Schwarzenegger is indeed heavily backed by the Bush
cartel. For Junior to come out now, publicly, and back AHNALD would be the kiss of death to him given how unpopular he is in the state , but to play political chess and distance himself publicly while allowing his operatives to support him privately still achieves the same objective which is take the governor's mansion. This could not be done of course in a one on one election in which their candidate would have to get a majority of the vote but it can be done much more easily with a small plurality on a crowded ballot. Once AHNALD is installed Karl und the boys are betting that AHNALD's support can help narrow Junior's negatives in 2004 and force the Democratic candidate to defend the state and divert resources there. Even if Junior can't win the state they are desperately hoping to force the candidate to divert resources there. AHNALD is no enemy of Junior and no secret friend of Democrats. If he was then he could easily bolster his candidacy by clearly distancing himself from Bush's policies publicly which he has not and will not do.

As this evidentiary news analysis shows:

The White House’s Active Role in the California Recall:
A Partial List of the Evidence

Bush Guru Karl Rove Met With Schwarzenegger in April. Schwarzenegger visited the
White House for a meeting with top Bush adviser Karl Rove on April 12th, 2003. Both
Schwarzenegger and Rove claimed that politics was not discussed during the meeting.
{Washington Post, 4/13/03}

Karl Rove: Possibility of a Governor Schwarzenegger "Would Be Really, Really Nice."
"With Mr. Rove’s blessing," Bush political advisers met with Schwarzenegger in 2001 about
the prospect of Schwarzenegger running for CA governor in 2002. The New York Times
reported on the meeting, "‘That would be nice,’ Mr. Rove said of the prospect of a
Governor Schwarzenegger. ‘That would be really nice. That would be really, really nice.’"
{New York Times, 4/15/01}

Laura Bush’s Press Secretary Helped GOP Candidate Strategize for Recall
Campaign. Noelia Rodriguez, Laura Bush’s press secretary and former LA deputy mayor,
was in Los Angeles for a week in July helping former mayor Richard Riordan assemble a
campaign team and strategy for a possible run on the recall ballot. {Los Angeles Times,
7/31/03; New York Times, 8/1/03}

Top Bush CA Adviser Playing Major Roll in Recall. Gerry Parsky, Bush’s top adviser in
California, has been advising GOP candidates on the recall strategy. The Sacramento Bee
reported, "Bush isn't staying entirely out of the election. His liaison in California,
businessman Gerald Parsky, summoned representatives of potential Republican candidates
to his office Tuesday to discuss how the GOP could help recall Davis." {Sacramento Bee,
7/30/03}

High Level Bush Re-Election Strategist Involved in Recall Effort. Mindy Tucker, who
served as a Bush spokesperson in the 2000 election and is currently a high level Bush
campaign strategist, is involved in the recall election strategy. A memo by a California GOP
campaigner noted, "Mindy Tucker, former Bush campaign spokesperson and current Bush
campaign operative in California, has the White House's blessing…" The same memo noted
that Tucker would be involved in coordinating recall campaign events, and that "the
resulting issue-oriented and image-enhancing coverage will benefit the image of the
Republican Party, the recall candidates, and will benefit President Bush as we remind the
public of who is to blame for the mess in this state." {San Francisco Chronicle, 8/6/03}

Tucker Has Denied White House Involvement, But Alludes to Bush Strategy. Tucker
has claimed that her involvement is not on the part of the White House, but has also said,
"the president has given everybody in California his blessing to take a position on this…"
Tucker has also said, "We've identified some areas where the recall will help us build the
party -- not only for the recall, but also for '04, which everyone believes is important."
{San Francisco Chronicle, 8/6/03}

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/08/08_recall.html


Also, with respect to the posted article, as RealFedUp has noted Britain's libel laws are considerably more onerous than ours and he has not chosen to file suit in response to the British article. In my opinion his inaction speaks volumes.

those guys, but the bottom line is that they're wrong on this one.

The bush regime is steering WAY clear of AS and had backed issa and simon. AS's hat in the ring was a true shocker to everyone; he either got real lucky in keeping it quiet, or it indeed was a total out of the blue.

The rove and bush regime sought favor with AS, but AS isn't for sale. The GOP hoped for an alliance, but it's not happening. AS has been on Capitol Hill a few times in past years, but his efforts there have been to rally for for education and after school programs. The meetings with rove & co were a weather vane. That rove thinks AS running for Gov is 'very nice' is a CLEAR indicator of rankor and the snub that the AS camp is tossing down. They've told the bush regime to fukc off.

To place more than a token amount of import on the role of tucker is too much. She's an also ran, a courtesy fukc as it were, on the part of the white house to try to horn in on the AS game. They need SOME alliance with the WH, but only a token amount. This is the WH trying to get a game with AS and AS ain't playing.

Heck I don't give a crap what party someone belongs to so long as their heart's are in the right place.

but I don't think you see everything just because
you share a carpool and afterschool activities.
Did you know that Arnold throws coins in each room
of the house so he knows that the carpets have been
cleaned....and then collects the coins from the maid?
Did you know that Maria screams at the kids and
Arnold a lot?

Did you read the Wendy Leigh column? There are names
listed of women he's been with, groped, and liaisons
named outside his marriage.

No one knows what's inside a marriage.
I do want voters to know what is inside his before
they vote. Sexual harassment is a crime, not
just a hobby.

Thanks for sharing your story though.

reliable than gossip columnists and maids telling tales out of school.

After all, the gossip columnists and maids have to be paid, don't they? Therefore, since they get paid, they're telling the truth.

You don't smell the rove stink on this stuff, which is pretty funny.

Names listed for anyone to contact. Libel laws
being stricter in England than here and actually
I do know who their maid was.

Frank Luntz is all over this election...and I
hardly think Rove is far afield. Gaining the
CA governor's seat isn't exactly a topic
they would ignore. I think they are nuts to
be putting their weight behind Arnold, but
I think Republicans in California are nuts.

I can understand that if you are personally
close to these people, you may not want to see
the flaws. While I appreciate you
really giving us more information than we need,
I think Arnold should be exposed for what he
does to women. If you are a woman, which I
am assuming, you'd want the truth also before
Oct. 7.

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.... but rather to a separate article written by a John Connally. No matter so AHNALD disputes all similar allegations regarding his behavior. I didn't expect that he would admit them even if true. I find it curious that this release indicates that even though AHNALD doesn't shy away form taking legal action he has not done so here even though the above referenced article appeared in British publication. As has been repeated here numerous times, that is a country with strict and onerous libel laws so one would think that a person who is not lawsuit shy like AHNALD would file suit to clear his name. No matter to me. As I said that is not what makes him a ludicrous choice to be governor of California. His lack of understanding of the issues and lack of solutions is far more damning. However it does become a legitimate area of inquiry if he trumpets his alleged moral superiority as so many Rethug candidates are fond of doing.

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......except AHNALD really does not show me that he is independent of that Bush tether. Being liberal on social issues is a requisite for any hope of state-wide electoral success in California so certainly Republicans will portay themselves that way to get elected . Rove's handpicked boy in last springs primaries was superficially liberal on social issues as well but that did not mean that he was a progressive and actually gave a damn about the needs of average Californians. Actually to me Ahnald would have a great deal more credibility as a progressive fighting the right wing if he declared that he was an independent as Jesse Ventura did or distanced himself publicly from Bush. He will not so as it stands now the specter of Rove looms large over AHNALD.

No I believe firmly that we Democrats do practice what we preach so I certainly don't favor running a Newt Gingrich style attack campaign about Ahnald's personal life but should he trot out those tired old saws such as "bringing respect back to the office" or "attacking the moral decay and decadence" spawned by the alleged evils of those "demon liberals," well then he has made his own character an issue then.

:toast:

you need to stop posting that "crap" with all the sentences lined out.

How is anyone expected to read this?

But it can be summarized as AHNALD denies all those bad things everyone has been saying about him. Somehow I am not surprised. Perhaps Mindy Tucker wrote the press release.

in writing to defend him?

That's what you were looking for isn't it? Didn't one of you ask why no one had defended him?

Well it appears they have, in writing, and nicely too. Yet all you can complain about is some redlining? I was able to read the nice things said about this man, and find that this is a LOT more credible, in spite of the redlining, than some gossip mongering and lies rumor mill. Gee, maybe it's just me?

Go figure. Like we really need more drama? Take the comeuppance and move on.

Stop spreading baseless rumors and lies. That's for the GOP.

I was merely agreeing with what CatWoman had said about the poor structure of the post i.e. the text being posted as lined through. Having been butchered it was difficult to read.

As for the supposed "rebuttal" it changes nothing and is not "a comeuppance." It is quite easy to understand actually. Reading it, it becomes instantaneously clear that AHNALD had his PR flacks concoct a press release denying these accusations and he quotes others coming to his defense. That's standard PR management. Big whoop. That is his side of the story but it establishes nothing as far as the truth. Now we have both sides of the story, a classic he said, she said. Now which side is there to believe? I am not consumed by unthinking adoration for the man so I won't assume that because AHNALD said it it must be true. However the truth could be decided in a court of law by a factfinder if AHNALD decided to sue to protect his good name, however till then I guess we each will draw our own conclusions from the competing versions of events which have been set forth.

Either way that will not effect the outcome of the recall. It and AHNALD will not prevail on lack of merit alone.
Ciao!

I was merely agreeing with what CatWoman had said about the poor structure of the post i.e. the text being posted as lined through. Having been butchered it was difficult to read.

As for the supposed "rebuttal" it changes nothing and is not "a comeuppance." It is quite easy to understand actually. Reading it, it becomes instantaneously clear that AHNALD had his PR flacks concoct a press release denying these accusations and he quotes others coming to his defense. That's standard PR management. Big whoop. That is his side of the story but it establishes nothing as far as the truth. Now we have both sides of the story, a classic he said, she said. Now which side is there to believe? I am not consumed by unthinking adoration for the man so I won't assume that because AHNALD said it it must be true. However the truth could be decided in a court of law by a factfinder if AHNALD decided to sue to protect his good name, however till then I guess we each will draw our own conclusions from the competing versions of events which have been set forth.

Either way that will not effect the outcome of the recall. It and AHNALD will not prevail on lack of merit alone.
Ciao!

job of defending him.

Wasn't just HIM.