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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:27 PM
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FCC and CIA want to regulate and monitor Internet activities!
Reposted here with a more appropriate Subject line -

News and media have all let us down and now they want to stifle our Internet!

Used to be journalists could dig until the kernals of absolute truth (those items that had either concrete proof or at the least the least amount of disagreement possible) were found. Now, thanks to corporate ownership, the news and media are mostly fed items to print and discuss --many taken from AP or Reuters desks word for word.

Those who try to publish anything considered anti-government and now, again, some one group's idea of anti-moral, have usually been silenced, OR find the details to prove their story sealed under the guise of "national security". Never in our history has there been a more secretive and hidden administrative and military record.

Many of us are hoping the Internet (just the one) can remain the latest stronghold of free press but now even that could be jeopardized. Would we let them tap the nation's phone lines?

2 article links follow:

1 - FCC wants Christian morals for the net and cable

US COMMUNICATION watchdog the FCC is apparently so pleased with its moral crusade following the Janet Jackson boob it now wants to purge what it calls immorality from the interweb and cable channels.

None of the US media that are looking at this story have said how the FCC is planning to censor the interweb. We assume they would have to follow a similar model to China where autocratic censorship of a huge population on the Interweb has been largely successful.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19761


2 - Is Big Brother Listening to Your Chat Room Conversations?

The U.S. government recently funded a study through the National Science Foundation to come up with a way to monitor conversations in online chat forums for signs of terrorist communications:
http://www.winxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=041102ED-Study

The AP story on this by Michael Hill was picked up by just about every computer news outlet on the Web; if you do a Google search for "chat surveillance," you'll find dozens of hits quoting the article, along with various commentary.

Cont'd here.....
http://www.winxpnews.com/index.cfm?id=149

1984 is just 20 years late.

PJ

LOVE>FEAR
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 05:29 PM
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1. ...........
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:06 PM
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2. gee
looks like they are going to repress the truth on-line now. Even worse they are going to suppress all speech on-line about anything that their religious and corporate puppet-masters don't like.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 06:21 PM
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3. Cia should always get its intelligence from DU. It seems
DU knows more than they do. At least it will be factual.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:05 PM
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11. No Kidding.
Though I think you may have the wrong agency.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-04 10:58 PM
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4. The notion that China has been "largely successful" is bullshit.
Edited on Thu Nov-25-04 10:59 PM by bemildred
They certainly are trying, but it is an oxymoron to suggest internet
and control in the same sentence. They will collect the naive in their
nets and the sophisticated will continue on their way.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:45 AM
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7. With our money -
And we'll probably end up paying for a new corporation full of employees in India who will promise to do whatever they want for a few dollars an hour.

Meanwhile, my semi-genius geek husband is unemployed in the good old USA.

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:37 PM
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9. FWIW.
I've been unemployed for a couple years now, voluntarily for the
most part, but if I was looking, I'd be looking in Canada, the UK,
and other overseas venues. Depending on your credits there is work
to be had in the USA too, but it's very specific: network security,
defense issues, search engines, etc.
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:35 AM
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5. Very little effect in China....
I was just in Beijing a few months ago, and wanted to see what effect the communists had with controlling the net. I surfed all over the net from my hotel and from three different systems in private homes. I did not have a problem. Regarding Politics, I was able to find anti-china, pro-US, even pro-Taiwan independence pages. As for other topics, religious, adult content etc. No problem.

However, finding an Internet cafe is hard to do. I was also told by some of the residents that cafes do have their content filtered.

The Internet is far to big now, the FCC, Federal Christian Coalition, is too late. The net is global.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 12:42 AM
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6. And bureaucrats are out-teched on all sides I think
Seems the net techs can always find a way around them (once they know what's up).



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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 05:26 PM
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10. Yeah, GOOD LUCK...
Flush all the pron and other heinous material off the internet?

LOL!

Gonna need more than four more wars to bomb all those countries servers (where much of it is stored)
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:55 AM
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8. CIA Big Spenders? Can't see that $157,673 will buy them much help!
CIA Researching Automated IRC Spying

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/24/2140209&tid=158&tid=17

"CNet News is reporting that the CIA has been quietly investing in research programs to automatically monitor Internet chat rooms. In a two year agreement with the National Science Foundation, CIA officials were involved with the selection of recipients for research grants to develop automated chat room monitors. Researchers at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute received $157,673 from the CIA and NSF for their proposal of 'a system to be deployed in the background of any chat room as a silent listener for eavesdropping ... The proposed system could aid the intelligence community to discover hidden communities and communication patterns in chat rooms without human intervention.' How soon until all IM conversations are monitored by Big Brother? The abstract of the proposal is available on the NFS website."


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Evening Star Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 07:22 PM
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12. What Became of Conservatives?
Can someone please post this?

Thanks

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts81.html

What Became of Conservatives?
by Paul Craig Roberts


I remember when friends would excitedly telephone to report that Rush Limbaugh or G. Gordon Liddy had just read one of my syndicated columns over the air. That was before I became a critic of the US invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration, and the neoconservative ideologues who have seized control of the US government.

more.......................

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Evening Star Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 08:00 PM
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13. Preemption Denied New Nukes
This one as well

thanks

Preemption Denied New Nukes
by Jim Lobe

A cost-conscious U.S. Congress has denied funding to Bush administration projects to develop new nuclear weapons designed to target rogue states or terrorists developing weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

more>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://www.lewrockwell.com/ips/lobe161.html
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