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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:16 PM
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Salon: Democracy inaction (election fraud – U.S. vs Ukraine)
Edited on Mon Nov-29-04 11:17 PM by kskiska
If U.S. officials who are complaining about election fraud in Ukraine applied the same standards in Ohio, then our own presidential election certainly was stolen.

By James K. Galbraith

The election was stolen. That's not in doubt. Secretary of State Colin Powell admitted it. The National Democratic Institute and the International Republican Institute both admitted it. Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana -- a Republican -- was emphatic; there had been "a concerted and forceful program of Election Day fraud and abuse"; he "had heard" of employers telling their workers how to vote; yet he had also seen the fire of the resisting young, "not prepared to be intimidated."

In Washington, former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski demanded that the results be set aside and a new vote taken, under the eye -- no less -- of the United Nations. In the New York Times, Steven Lee Myers decried "the use of government resources on behalf of loyal candidates and the state's control over the media" -- practices, he said, that were akin to those in "Putin's Russia."

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But if the Ukraine standard were applied in Ohio -- as it should be -- then the late lamented U.S. election certainly was stolen. In Ohio, the secretary of state in charge of the elections process was co-chairman of the Bush campaign in the state. He obstructed the vote count systematically -- for instance, by demanding that provisional ballots without birth dates on their envelopes be thrown out, even though there is no requirement for that in state law. He also required that provisional ballots be cast in a voter's home precinct, ensuring that there would be no escape from long lines. Republicans fielded thousands of election challengers to Democratic precincts, mainly to try to intimidate black voters and to slow down the voting process. A recount, demanded and paid for by the Green and Libertarian parties, has been stalled in court, so that it won't possibly upset the certification of Ohio's electoral votes.

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So where is the press? Why aren't there more stories on Ohio? Why is there no national pressure for a prompt statewide recount? Why no continuing outcry? Why no demand -- as our friends are making with strong American support in Ukraine -- that the election results in Ohio be set aside and a new vote held? Why has our election, with all its thuggery, been forgotten just three weeks after it occurred?

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http://salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/11/30/ukraine_election/index.html
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:30 PM
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1. My gosh, Salon actually printed an op-ed that mentions the F word
and the silence of the media?

It's about time!

Thanks for posting that.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 11:53 PM
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2. Yes, thank you, it was nice to read something that knowledges
our stolen election, but we should be marching as those poor folks are in their country. Why do we not march in a similiar way ??
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:19 PM
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4. That is my question as well
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msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 07:03 PM
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6. Because the one we voted for conceded.
All he had to do was say the word, everyone was ready.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 02:43 AM
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-04 03:40 PM
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