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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 08:54 PM
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Self-perpetuating awful US government - why do people vote Repub?
OK, I don't know that much about US politics, but here's what seems to be happening.....

You get a Democrat President who focuses on getting a good, balanced budget, levies sensible taxes and funds social care and creates a large budget surplus, leaving the country in credit. Unfortunately the people, egged on by big business, start getting angry about the amount of taxes they pay. They listen to Republicans who promise tax cuts, and who are not afraid to make exaggerations and misleading statements about the Dems, the economy and their policies in order to build favour.

At the next election the people vote in a Republican President, who promptly cuts taxes to the rich and effectively raids the US treasury, whilst simultaneously launching into foreign conflicts, creating massive debt where once there was surplus but plenty of money for the arms and oil industries. The rich get richer but the poor do badly. Eventually people realise that things are bad and vote back in a Dem.

Unfortunately the Dem inherits massive debts and crumbling infrastructure, and whilst working to rebuild Federal coffers and repair the country, taxes get harsher again. Also, there is no quick fix so people don't see any return on the money they pay in taxes. People aren't patient enough to wait for results, and therefore vote back in the Repubs who start raiding the Treasury again, all the time blaming the Dems for the terrible state of the country, when in fact the country wasn't given time to recover from the previous Repub government.

And so it continues......

Is this what happens? Am I missing something? I just can't see how and why people vote in a Republican President (I know that they didn't last time), unless the majority of the US population is either very wealthy, bigoted or just plain stupid....

P.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:41 PM
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1. god lifted his veil of protection and gave us smirk
because america was a tolerant secular humanist society. bush was anointed by god himself to punish the nation.\

repent repent repent
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:41 PM
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2. in case it is not really secret

people have families...
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:43 PM
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3. Its true
Democrats have families
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:48 PM
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4. plain stupid is the correct answer
unless the majority of the US population is either very wealthy, bigoted or just plain stupid....

:freak:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:56 PM
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5. Its a combo of things including pysops which the Pubs use to brain wash
our masses with much success.

Its a lotta things.

Its a system gone amok.

The "Haves" vote to protect their lot, the "Havenots" are so tired/brainwashed/disgruntled, they don't even vote/

what can I say?

:shrug:
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:23 PM
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9. I vote for stupidity
and bigotry. Not necessarily klan-style bigotry, but the reality is that republicans do not want to be associated with a party that includes among its followers those typically considered the underclass. Granted, not all democrats are people you want to invite over for dinner, but they generally don't have the same contempt that the republicans have for those who are not quite like them.
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quilp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 09:58 PM
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6. Republicans are elected by less that 25% of eligible voters.
Many voters cannot vote. The polls open at seven in the morning and close at eight at night. While most people are at work or commuting. Single parents have no chance to vote. Even with two parents only one can usually vote. Two million in jails cannot vote. That is what is missing. Have the vote on a saturday, or make it a holiday, or just give employees two hours to go vote. It will never happen in this "democracy" of course.
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:10 AM
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12. By law your employer has to give you time off...
I don't know what the amount of time is--maybe two hours but they have to.

David
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:00 PM
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7. A few theories
- People are closet bigots, xenophobs and the like and know the Repubs are secretly on their level.

- People think that they are wealthy and think that they should act like, and vote, Republican because Repugs are the deluxe political party.

- Big money spent to covertly and overtly persuade people does work... people do vote against their best interests.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:09 PM
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8. a great percentage of the American public
is very much uninformed. It's sad - they know little of what is happening in America and NOTHING about the rest of the world.
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ameriphile Donating Member (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 10:29 PM
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10. Many of those who vote Republican...
...do so because it's easier than thinking. When people support flawed policies like dubya's tax cuts, they can't see past the $300 check, and thus don't realize that they're helping to impoverish their own children and grandchildren.

It's no wonder the Republicans are so strongly anti-education.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 07:04 AM
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11. Put this into the ring.
Why vote Dem when they have become alot like the GOP of years ago? Nader is like the old Dem party but few vote for him. Did you see that thing on Dem leaders? Is it true that most Dem are really in the middle and only someone who is in the center can win? It is interesting as you know Bush sounded Dem when he ran then went far right when he got in.I was not for NAFTA and those things and welfare reform was pretty hard on those people on it but Clinton sighed it, and NAFTA.Was that a Dem thing? Did they want that? Well with NAFTA they have come back and made companies do as they wish. Is not that the problem with the GOP and the UN?Other countries telling us what to do and now we have other corp. for over seas telling us what to do.I vote DEm even if I am Green as it is a two party country and I am really on the left, and know the score.
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