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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:06 PM
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Suskind to post many of the documents on the Internet
O'Neill Says Book Intended to Spark Debate

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Suskind, in an interview with The Associated Press, said that he planned to post many of the documents on the Internet in coming weeks so that the public can get a firsthand look at how policy has been made in the Bush administration.

"We will begin releasing them in a week or two so the American people can then read these documents for themselves," Suskind said. "This is very much a fact-based view of the administration's first two years."




Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. I think I need to go buy a few reams of paper. This should be better than the Nixon tapes.

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Clark4VotingRights Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:09 PM
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1. Woah!!! I hope he has a *secure* server.
I mean mega secure.

"Fact based view" of the regime. Well, facts dont reflect well on them. That's for damn sure.

Did they mention the domain name?
www.sendachimptothemoon.org?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:12 PM
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2. This is the thing I don't get.
Lawrence B. Lindsey, the former director of the president's National Economic Council, wrote in The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday that O'Neill's assertion that Bush was not engaged in the policy-making process was "simply false."

He said Bush left the Oval Office each night with a two-inch briefing book detailing the issues he would face the following day.

...

If George Bush has dinner, tends to a few personal items, pays a little attention to Laura and goes to bed EARLY every night, how in the hell does he have time to read through a 2" briefing book??????

There isn't enough time in an evening to have a life AND read through a 2" briefing book!!!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:17 PM
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4. Just because he carries the thing around
doesn't mean he ever actually reads it.

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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:20 PM
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5. No one EVER suggested Bill Clinton was uninvolved.
Not even Tom Delay or Newt Gingrich. Clinton NEVER needed defending with regard to doing the job of being President.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:37 PM
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8. Right!
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 08:38 PM by eleny
W acted proud that he didn't even read a newspaper. That he had other people filter stuff for him. I took that to mean that he had folks clip out the cartoons he could understand. Maybe Nancy & Sluggo. So, there's no way he reads it.

A while back, I watched C-Span coverage of Rove at a Louisiana fund raiser. He was describing how shrubby goes up to the WH residence each night with a tome of current work under his arm and how he reads it till late. And then he's there early the next morning, prepared for work with all that information in his head. And how tired he always is and how Rove worries about shrub being overworked. I laughed my ass off.
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DrBB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:28 PM
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6. It's just a lie
Edited on Wed Jan-14-04 08:28 PM by DrBB
I mean, essentially DoYouEverWonder is right. Assuming there is such a briefing book and he takes it home, etc. But what if there isn't? What makes you think it's true?

It's funny. I share the same naive belief that if someone makes a verifiable, factual, yes or no statement like that, well, it's probably true then. This in spite of listening to three years of Ari Fleischer just blatantly lying. I mean, just outright, blatantly lying. And realizing that this is considered a legitimate tactic in the rightwing playbook. If you're up against the wall, just lie.

"Well, it's not 'lying,'" I'm sure they tell themselves. "I mean, it's totally untrue, but we're only doing it because we have no choice--we're right, and the leftist libruls just don't understand that and can't be allowed to influence public opinion just because they happen to have some discrete fact or other on their side. So it's okay to 'lie' because it's in service of a Higher Truth!"

It's something like that, I'm sure. And it spreads beyond actual administration figures to pundits and GOPers more generally--like this guy.

But it could easily be, just plainly and simply, a lie.

Isn't that weird?
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:43 PM
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9. I wonder if we'll ever know how they justify all the lies to themselves.
n/t
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:11 PM
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11. Bingo !
Something seems to be backwards about the whole process. Why give him something to read everyday if they know he isn't reading it? And surely they knew? Seems like there should have been a better way to brief him than with 2" briefing books?? I guess that is why he said he did not even read the newspapers and looked ot his advisors to brief him on what was even in the newspapers! How could they expect him to read something 2" thick!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:12 PM
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3. that's if Powell jr and ashcrack don't shut down the net first for
"national security"...i wanna know why "from Deutsch Bank" was on some of those documents
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:52 PM
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10. Deutsch Bank and Buzzy Krongard
put options...9/11 - google those two names and some interesting stuff comes up.

BTW, in NYC at the site of WTC, the Deutsch Bank building remains looming over the site - it is a huge black, menacing and evil looking building. Not a scratch on it that I could tell. Hmmmm!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 08:30 PM
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7. Ho Ho Ho
This is going to be fun.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:17 PM
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13. "Ho Ho Ho" ... does that refer to bush, cheney and rove?
The three big ho's
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-04 09:17 PM
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12. Woohoo!!! Watch your back buddy, you are dealing with people
who have no honor whatsoever and money and power are their gods.

Seriously, I hope he has a good bodyguard.
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