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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:41 PM
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It's actually a great speech. Too bad it is 99.9% lies.
But the unwashed masses will take it as gospel and imagine they're on the receiving end of a largesse they don't think anyone else is entitled to.

Goebbels would have been proud to write it.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:48 PM
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1. His problem is that he has gotten a reputation as a liar.
People will listen to him, but he has the "l" word constantly hanging over his head.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:58 PM
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6. No, not true...the scary thing is that 65% of people think that...
he is honest and open...

Dems NEED to harp on this, our chimpy in chief doesn't become honest just because he doesnt get a blow job...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:07 PM
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:32 PM
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19. Check on some of these numbers.
The last time the honest and trustworthy question was asked, he was at 59%. Should be coming up again soon.

http://www.pollingreport.com/bush.htm#Bush
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:50 PM
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2. What's the .01% that you're obviously seeing?
I seem to have missed that.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:25 PM
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17. is
he said 'is' as in 'is a *moron'

that wasn't a lie.


dp
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:26 PM
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18. $%@!
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 10:29 PM by dweller
*$#%^~:(%+@@!!!*

dp


*frickin dupe
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:50 PM
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3. It's getting ridiculous.
But if you believe the Party of war profiteering liars, then you will love this speech.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:52 PM
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4. 100% lies...beyond lies...
Everything this asshole is saying he's going to fund or improve he will start destroying tomorrow.
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auburnblu Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:54 PM
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5. Unwashed masses, hmmm
I'm assuming you are referring to the poor people of the country. I am pissed at Bush lately about spending like there is no tomorrow, but damn how many "I am an elitist, I'm superior, these poor uneducated bufoons must be true idiots to like Bush" are we going to see.

On behalf of all the working folks out there who may or may not like the speech, a big f*** off to the at best one percent of the country that the "I am superior" liberal elites represent.

Can we please see some insults about Bush without insulting poor/working class folks. Oh I forget, a lot of posters on here seem to have a need to feel superior to the great unwashed. How pathetic.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 09:59 PM
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7. Seemed to me...
... the author was exercising what is known as sarcasm and irony, not an attack of the working poor. Really.

-- the Handpuppet, not of the idle rich
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:03 PM
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10. GET real auburn lu lu
Elitist?
Why would common sense make one an elitist?
Bush is uneducated-
And he is poor in alot of ways(character, intelligence)
He can't hardly make it thru a sentence,
He grew up in Connecticut and somehow has a redneck accent?
Got C's at Yale as a gift from dad,
He went AWOL during time of war and no one held him accountable!
Inexcusable!

Bush is a poor poor sonofabush and I choose to place myself high above him and all those other poorly informed bastards that support him!!
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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11. I'm sorry you don't grasp the "unwashed masses" reference.
It does not refer to poor people per se and was not meant to denigrate those of lesser means. I suggest you google the phrase, you might learn something about that which I said. Please do not take offense, none was intended.
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:00 PM
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8. Bush is
Dubaya is PT Barnum reborn into politics. The best pitch is always a lie.

"There's a sucker born with EVERY ballot."

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:01 PM
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9. It's not a great speech, is the worst written of the SOTU's Bush has done
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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14. I am somewhat afraid, sir, that you missed my point. Did you read the
entire post?

Perhaps I was too abstract. I do that occasionally. Often, irony is a victim of its own irony.
:D
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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13. What was so great about it? The sanctity of marriage part?
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 10:14 PM by Tinoire
The work camps for ex-prisoners administered by faith-based groups?

The constitutional amendment discriminating against gays?

The part allowing seniors to put a few pennies in an un-taxed account so they still can't afford the medications they need?

Or maybe the part about the greatful Iraqis?

Mass-destruction-related-program activities?

Patriot Act II?

I didn't hear anything great in there.

You're joking, right?

On edit- just read your post about irony. My sense of humor is totally evaporated right now. I think even Goebbels would have been embarrassed to spew that crap. The Nazis, at least, had the courage of their convictions. Not even Bush believes the babble he just recited. OMG. This is a nightmare. Heart-breaking nightmare.
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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:15 PM
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16. You misapprehend my comments, dear sir (or madam as the case may be)
I referred to it's effectiveness as perceived by those who are inclined to accept the unelected fraud's comments as "TRVTH".

Nor do I suggest it will actually effect any great change of minds. Watch the pundits; his remarks will resonate clearly to those who wanted to hear what he said and be dismissed by those (such as myself) who know he's a lying bastard.

'kay?

;-)
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:14 PM
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15. lies lies lies
he smirked his way through the entire thing, he doesn't care about any of it other than the tax cuts. What a liar.
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