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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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Official SOTU Thread 7
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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1. Sigh....
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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2. Stick around for the rebuttal, thank Goodness that is over with
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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3. IT'S OVER THANK YOU JEEBUS
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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4. it is finished!
hallelujah, we survived brothers and sisters!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:06 PM
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5. The idiot just spilled Dick Cheney's water!!!!!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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16. He caused cheney to piss his pants?
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM by RC
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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24. Did he really?
I wonder if Clinton ever did that? Probably not.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:07 PM
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6. It's OVER!!!
Now let the post-mortems begin!

I for one think he just gave us a nice case of ammunition for the coming GE.
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Osiris Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:07 PM
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7. Thank God.
Now I'm done puking.
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One Taste Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:07 PM
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8. All I have to say is YUCK!
:wtf: :argh: :freak: :dunce: :hangover: :hurts: :grr: :puke: :mad: :puke: :puke:
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:07 PM
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9. Where's my shovel?
Christ, the only good thing about this is that there will be plenty of fodder to throw in his face.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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22. peggy noonan
just called Bush's spending proposals "Clintonian"! It's the seventh sign! It's the seventh sign!

Oh, there's my other esteemed senator, Specter, trying to crawl up Bush's A**, where Santorum freaking LIVES! Santorum is so far up Bush's Tush that he needs gay marriage protection.
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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10. Truly, utterly, absolutely lame
There's a fine line between tragedy and farce, but I'm willing to go with farce on this one.
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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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11. Bush implied that an anti-gay marriage amendment may be in the works
:argh: :grr: :nuke:

We will NOT let these pricks amend our Constitution for the sake of their bigotry!

I turned on the SOTU for one minute and I had to see that horrible bit and a point on abstinence in sex education of all things. :puke:
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:14 PM
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45. It already is in the works - no implication necessary.
But -- I couldn't stomach the speech. What did he say about AMERICAN CITIZENS who happen to be gay and how he plans to curtail our CIVIL RIGHTS?!
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:19 PM
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58. Doesn't matter if it is or not
It was a purely political ploy to energize his RW fundie base. This and abortion are the only things they care about. Stupid gits couldn't care less if the country went down the drain so long as they can control your life by their twisted morals.

L-
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:35 PM
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75. He endorsed it, IMO.
He said "If activist judges (referring to the Massachusetts Supreme Court) deter the will of the American people, then it is necessary to protect marriage by consititutional means". There was no may about it, IMO.

And Cneney has has also said he'll endorse FMA, which by doing so, is essentially slapping his own daughter, who's a lesbian, in the face,

That moment in the SOTU was one of the most shameful, disgusting things I've ever seen.

Terry
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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12. How does one give a rebuttal to such fluff and ignorance?
Wouldn't it be more honest just to laugh?
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:12 PM
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36. I wanted to...
I wanted to laugh that ugly, hysterical and maniacal laugh for one particular lie he told. Christ, I'm so drunk I can't even remember which lie--the entire thing was one big lie. The shrub sure knows how to put the sugar coating on shit. Eat up, America. Yum.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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13. I didn't watch the SOTU.
But I'm quite sure Bush sucked!
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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27. You are so wrong
It was way worse than "sucked."
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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30. You are correct in your assumption
nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:13 PM
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40. I really think suck is putting it mildly
Imagine a concoction of whipped nothing flavored with shit...
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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14. Dennis Kucinich
giving live response now:

http://www.kucinich.us
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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23. where is the link on his site
darn it I can't seem to find it...
Scott
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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29. nevermind
I'm a moron
Scott
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:39 PM
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77. Front page
» Live Online: «
Dennis Kucinich in New Hampshire!
Watch it now!

Choose your preferred streaming video below:

Windows Media Player | Real Media Player


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Watch Dennis Kucinich's Town Hall Meeting in New Hampshire. Hear serious discussion of the state of our nation and what we can do about it.

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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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15. They refused to stand up! They refused to applaud!
...CNN on the "bitter division" in the audience, "led by Ted Kennedy."

GO TED!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:08 PM
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17. Is There a Transcript of This Available Yet?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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18. I for one liked the 3 democratic oppositions
the unexpected appaulse for "patriot act expiring soon" and "tax cuts expiring soon

And who can forget the boo part for the "If you dont pass my tax cuts, americains taxes will increase"
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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19. Military Props
Edited on Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM by WorstPresidentEver
I loved the reactions of the various troops, rolling their eyes, pretending to clap etc. obviously they did not appreciate being used by that smug, arrogant, smirking little bastard.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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20. Lot of talk, not much said
He was clearly going for the cheap cheers.
I hope the press does a number on this speech.

...

Yea right.
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:09 PM
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21. Such a Good Boy
Bush talks like he's still a child. He kept his sing-song tone throughout the speech. I kept wanting to say, "Come on, you're a grownup."

I think he laid an egg. The SOTU was patronizing, full of hackneyed nonsense.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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25. it sounded lmore ike a caqmpain speach to me
that an account of the SOU:shrug:
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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"These past three years, we have faced challenges WE DIDN'T ASK FOR."
For once, he's right!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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26. I wonder if this is the Ashley Pearson that Bush spoke about...
She looks older than 10 years of age...


Home school in DeKalb County: Plainview High School
Class of 1999: Alabama School of Mathematics and Science

http://www.asms.net/rtc/models/AshleyPearson.html
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:12 PM
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37. say Ashley Pearson out loud with me
Ashley Pearson, actually a person, Ashley Pearson, actually a person, Ashley Pearson, actually a person.

Haha. His speechwriters are pretty cool
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:10 PM
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28. Scewups tonite?
One that stuck to me was when he was listing off the long long list of countries that support us. He started slow, then got fast all of a sudden like he remembered he was supposed to. Then ran out of breath and got the standing applause before he could name off the last four, "and 17 others.

I bet the speechwriters were pissed right there ;P


That and Ashley Pearson (Actually a Person?), age 2 er... age 10
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:11 PM
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31. Kerry on NBC
And Zogby has him just two points behind Dean in New Hampshire, I think.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:18 PM
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55. Oh, I think he was just trying to top Howard Dean
when he rattled off those states.
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:20 PM
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60. Remember Pat Buchannan making fun of Dean's
post caucus speech where he recited a laundry list of states? Pat tried to paint Dean as a desperate fool. Funny how when Bush does the same thing the sycophants worship him and cheer. Disgusting.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:27 PM
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70. CAN'T Watch Shrub...Did He Actually SAY Anything?
I imagine like the Bush in 30 seconds ad....terr'ist terr'ist terr'ist 9-11 9-11 9-11 God Bless America

Cripes how many times can he go that THAT well??
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:31 PM
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72. How do you think Micronesia felt about being left out?
How long do you think we'll have their critical support now?
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:11 PM
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32. The punditry
I've heard them slobbering all over the "permission slip" line at least three times already. Get ready to hear this over and over and over and over...
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freespeechhere Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:11 PM
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33. The moral coward thinks he's Lincoln
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:11 PM
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34. thank you Mr. pResident
"Setting the stage for a bitter Presidential campaign."
"This is a remarkably bad speech."
CNN

Did he just hand us the key to the White House?

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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:11 PM
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35. Why did I put myself through that
I honestly feel physically ill.

:puke:
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freespeechhere Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:12 PM
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Go get yourself a tonic and have a lie down...there, there...
It will be better tomorrow
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:13 PM
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41. You'll Feel Better
You'll feel better after a good night's sleep. He'll still be president but you'll be better able to deal with that fact.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:15 PM
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46. i started out hugging my dog
I ended up throwing bullseyes at darts across the room.... lots of bulls eyes i was seeing the red ugly dot in the middle of the lie.... boy am i furious... and nauseous... what evil... its like sitting in baradur with saruon for an hour.
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porkrind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:31 PM
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73. Me too!
I immediatly came here to vent. Thank goodness for you sane people on DU. I think I need a drink. :puke:
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sexybomber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:36 PM
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76. have a toke instead
i actually sat through it pretty calmly. But then again, :smoke: will usually do that.
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:12 PM
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38. *sigh*
2 much war talk, not enough health care.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:12 PM
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39. Anagram for "ashley pierson": Pee-shy liar son
.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:13 PM
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42. Another anagram (I was thinking the same thing)
Ashley Pearson = Hey, leap on r ass
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:23 PM
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63. another: "No salary, sheep!" n/t
.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:14 PM
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44. you have a computer program that makes those, right?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:13 PM
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43. election year attack points he outlined
So he realizes theyre weak on healthcare... point 1.

He realizes they're weak on patriot and iraq... point 2.

He realizes they're weak on tax cuts for the rich and inheritance... point 3.

He realizes they're weak on the deficit... point 4.

He'a afraid and it was a defensive speach after a term in power... a good sign that its too much for him.


My favorite moment was the cheering for the end of the patriot act!!


goo deeems!!!


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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:15 PM
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48. quiet!
Pelosi and Daschle
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:16 PM
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49. Backpedaling
Yes, he backpedalled throughout most of the speech. He doesn't have much in the way of positive accomplishments.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:15 PM
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47. It would be funny
if it weren't so damn sad that people buy this shit.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:16 PM
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50. Wolf Blitzer had Ted Kennedy on a roll...
...and cut him off in mid-sentence.

Ted was going ballistic on the war and Blutzer said "we're going to have to continue this conversation later."
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:16 PM
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51. Heard as much as I could stand
Terror, Saddam, economy improving yadda freakin yadda. Lot of exaggeration of how good things are and how much better off we are. Little of it substantive in my opinion. I thought the Wal-Marting of the mideast was a different slant.

Mostly, I wasn't impressed. Just a lot grand standing and very little to be positive about.

Rove, we still think you suck.
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:17 PM
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52. What is Pelosi Ranting about?
All this about the military ...
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:17 PM
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53. Save us from this moran and his mini-morans
That was the most vacuous speech ever uttered in a time of national emergency.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:18 PM
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54. Pellossi looks a bit... stretched
But she's saying the right thing.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:19 PM
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56. Thanks for filling me
in on this evil display by our chimp. There is NO way in hell I could have stomached it.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:19 PM
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57. Quit pandering to the military...as a military spouse...it doesn't move me
My country is in trouble. If you want to show you support the soldiers...then stop the lies! Bring Bush to justice! Don't pander to me..I don't qquestion your patriotism or your support of the troops.

I only want my country back.

This isn't about the troops...this is about America, dammit!!!!


Help America!



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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:21 PM
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62. I predict
we'll see the formation of a Hitler... er ... republican youth corps, dedicated to all things Bush. It'll be called The Ashley Pearson Corps. And George will fund it with $25 billion of "no child left behind" funds.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:23 PM
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64. LOL You're probably right....
Oh, it hurts to laugh...it really does.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:20 PM
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59. very uninspiring
I expected to have my spirits lifted, lifted high. High enough to open the bomb bay doors over the next oil-rich country that is moments away from destroying the United States at the touch of an evil-axis button. Like last year.

And yet here I sit, lulled into a malaise that has no evil-doers I need to destroy with urgency and immediacy.

George W Bush has let me down, and let me down hard. Now I must face my own life without an amorphous scapegoat for all of the evils in the world. How do I do that? How?
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:21 PM
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61. Hope Daschel Does Better than Nancy
Nancy is tossing roses at Bush.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:23 PM
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65. holy crap! Nancy's veneers
are blinding me. Pretty good-lookin' granny. But yeah, she should have ripped Bush a new one instead of being so kind and gentle.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:24 PM
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67. they should have had TED KENNEDY
do the Democratic response. That would've rocked Bush's little world.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:35 PM
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74. Ted Kennedy - THANK YOU
For your priceless head shaking and eyes rolling during chimpy's speech. Absolutely wonderful.
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:24 PM
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66. Why All This about America's Strength?
This must be a hot issue in the focus groups. Are we strong?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:27 PM
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69. nazi germany was strong, therefore nazi america is strong...shhhh!
Don't ask, use duct tape. ;)
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:26 PM
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68. Are we being talked down to?
Daschle is using some of Bush's sing song tone. Oh what a good boy I am, too!

Are we being talked down to? That's what it sounds like.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:28 PM
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71. what the heck?
Why are Pelosi and Daschle being so damned polite? The DEVIL is running the country, and they sound like they found PODS next to their beds this morning.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:40 PM
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78. "Fool me again - Shame on Me"
Sheeny lies that we have heard before.

Tonight made me realize the smirk is because he thinks he's being clever in the duplicitous nature of the lies he is telling us.

It looked like the guests were unsupportive of Bush. The military people looked really disappointed or angered.

Interesting shots of Teddy Kennedy shaking his head at Bush's lies.

Also noticed they ironically showed Colin Powell the disgraced UN liar when bush said "No longer can anyone challenge the word of the United States".

The child was disinterested when they showed him during the education part.

I noticed they became Evidence of Weapons of Mass Destruction Program Activity!!

I'd say this thing was a disaster because his record is there to see and its easier to understand and parse out the duplicity, now.

Thought the response was good when they got to the meat of the stuff, after the intros and formal backpatting.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 10:44 PM
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79. daschle and pelosi
did anyone listen to what they DIDN'T say??
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-04 11:30 PM
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80. I really wanted to listen
This had to be the most boring SOTU speech I have ever seen. There was no substance whatsoever. Killers, Terrorist to Justice, Thugs, Assassins, No permission slips to defend our country. Clap clap.
Simple sentences for his simple subjects. Ted was the best with his head wringing and paying attention to his important papers.
I honestly could not watch it all and Pelosi and Daschle were no better.
This poor performance made Deans rousing speech look much better in retrospect. :9
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