What can be done to finally hold the Bushes accountable for their actions?

I mean, if the media won't do it and the Dems won't do it what can we do?

He is the Anti-Bush, and that would be the next best thing to Nurenberg trials. Does anyone think Clark or Dean would do anything about their policies and crimes?

what options are there? (I agree btw)

the corporate media. That has always been the most important thing to do. Raise your voice against their lies as often as possible. There are only a few ways to do this. One of the most effective is standing on a street corner protesting the evil doers. Next best would be participating in or starting a local Indymedia coop. One of the worst and least effective is banging on your computer keyboard in any given message board. Whoops...

That sounds great

I would suggest giving as many Indymedia centers as possible the once over, see what they are doing, and try to determine the feasibility of a seperate one in your own area, or even better working with the nearest one.
http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/01/1667879.php

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No, seriously, what is needed is a long-term organizational framework involving e-mailing, low-level direct mailing, etc. which furthers our positions.....Essentailly, what we need to do is echo the way the right consolidated and expanded their base in the seventies after the defeat of Nixon. Trouble is, people want IMMEDIATE results, and it is indeed scary to think what's in store should the junta get another term. But I believe what the left needs to do is continue to energize the base, and spread our message via word of mouth, start our own think tanks funded with contributions from guys like us, do what Mike Malloy and others do: get low budget radio shows and simply GET THE MESSAGE OUT. We gotta think long term.


As far as seeing The junta at the ICC, well, either wish in one hand, or wait for the Europeans to serve Cheney with papers......

We need to fire people up. One of the great outcomes of the caucuses is the feeling that a real opposition is forming. Not necessarily a candidate but a movement of passionate opposition. we need to let our democratic reps know that we want to see more of the tiny bit of resistance they showed at the SOTU. We want them to hiss and jeer and boo and fight and vote and speak out and RESIST. We need to be fearless and stay focused!

Bring Greg Palast's book to work. Show it off. Be conspicuous. Word of mouth. Keep whispering. Enough whispers and it's louder than a bomb. LONG TERM. Talk to people at work. Talk to waiters, to bus drivers, to busboys, to construction workers. Do what the Jehovah's Witnesses do, except replace the JW dogma with FACTS and STATISTICS.

The right licked their wounds after Nixon, and retreated, GOT ORGANIZED, and continued to spread and expand their base. In six years, they took the White House with a candidate NO ONE took seriously, and who woulda been laughed out of a caucus in the early seventies....with the backing of groups like The Southern BAptist Convention, the Moral Majority, etc. who had spent the last six years direct mailing, holding conventions, organizing independent think tanks, and basically STAYING THE COURSE against the derisive laughter of most of America. They won handily against Carter.

What we need is to ape these methods. Moveon.org is a start....we need liberals to take over slots at tiny AM radio stations, start their own newspapers.....blogging is a good idea, too.

We need to do what we got lazy and forgot about during the Clinton years.

I know many many many religious lefters. Do we have organizations to match theirs.

As a Christian I feel that the Dems represent the New Testament message better then the Right and their Old Testament ideas. This is quite ironic to me.

We need to be as passionate about the collective interest as they are about their greedy self interest.

It goes way back to the 1970s with the Nixon and Carter years when the Fright Wing first started exercising their muscle - funding think tanks, conservative language framing, acquiring media outlets, energizing the radicals that want a theocracy that they have a lot in common with, etc.

The Democrats just let it happen slowly over time, little by little, it was a creeping death.

Yes, seriously, all that good stuff you mention is really the way to go.

But we need to consider all methods of opposition. I don't do black candles, myself, but there are some wise folks out there. The running sore that appeared during the "recount"--the pretzel incident--the Segway idiocy. Not casting evil--that's dangerous--just letting his own deficiencies become more obvious.