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Danmack Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:15 PM
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Omnibus spending bill OT rules changes really screws me....
Now passed by the senate, this bill, with dark of the night additions put in by the WH and friends), basically changes how, who and when we can get paid for overtime.

New ways to calculate who is exempt, 22.1K annual salary level will make me (and maybe you )ineligible for OT on May 1.

Read IT!!!!!

http://www.epinet.org/content.cfm/briefingpapers_flsa_jun03

Goddamn son of a bitches are changing the rules to make a ton of us, who are just surviving because of the OT we work not eligible anymore.

Of course it is GREAT news for all the cheap stake employers who have hired us used to be 60k plus a year people and now pay us squat, doing the same thing that takes 50-60 hours a week to do that we used to do. And now they will be able to make 50-60 hours a week mandatory and not have to pay you more than 40.

What will it take to end the nightmare

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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 09:53 PM
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1. Ditto the SOB part!
I missed most of the hearings on this...damnit! I had to be away from the house today. I ADORE Robert Byrd though. I did see him, briefly, give his heart and wisdom to the subject this morning. I'm with you friend, this is BULLSHIT.

I no longer work outside the home but when I did, I saw this type of thing being played with by a company I worked for in the 80's I was working for Seagate tech. They worked us 60 to 80 hrs weekly. They did pay overtime at that point but the actual work of overtime was MANDATORY............just screw our families, work, work, work til ya puke! Then they started "promoting" people to supervisor/managerial positions so they wouldn't have to pay US any overtime but work us even HARDER.
So, this bill, I guess, is cutting out overtime AND NOT setting a minimum wage either???!!!
BASS TARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are the democrats in terms of stalling this shit??? Isn't there a law somewhere that would stop this kind of backdoor dealing? If not, THERE OUGHT TO BE! Along with all the other crap this administration is doing, this is one more immoral, uncivilized blow to the people of the United States. We need to find out where to write and call and shout our disdain for this foul double dealing!
The madness needs to stop NOW!!! By god, I'm going to find out who I can blast, right away.
Hang in there friend til we can get this clusterf*ck untangled.

:nuke:
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:02 PM
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2. Organize
Unionize, nationalize, national stand downs even if for only one day a week.

Strength in numbers. It does work.

180

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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:09 PM
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3. You can thank you Senate Dems for that....
they could have filibustered, but chose not too....

Are there any current Senate Dems who you could punish by not voting for them?
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:24 PM
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4. I wish we could protest the re election
of all those Dems who sit on their haunches doing almost nothing! Cleverly, however, and as far as I can tell, we can only address those reps that represent you and I where WE live. I can only bark at those reps in my state, you in yours. Maybe we can call for DUers' and others who live in the states with the most offensive Dems to make the move to not re elect.......I'll support them.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:31 AM
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8. "Please Mr. Bush don't hurt us"
Sniveled Tom, the wimp.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-22-04 10:28 PM
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5. It's Taxation Without Representation
We have no more representation in D.C.
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Danmack Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:13 AM
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6. I don't think its a tax thing, but we now can be a land of surfs and kings
i.e Big Business

with all the ways big bus has f'd us working people.e in the last year for the sake of profits for their share holders, who thinks they are not going to suck this up.

Lets say you used to make $15.00/hr which is about 30L a/year. And with it you had to every other Saturday for 8 hours.

Law now states you get time and a half. So 8 x 23 = $184 X 26 (actual Saturdays worked in a year)= $4758.

Well with the new rules, which will basically let employers declare anybody they want to as exempt. You won't get squat for your Saturdays. And you can't say you won't work them anymore (because they can say its just part of the job), and then they could fire you for cause...

ITS CALLED THEY PASSED THIS BILL WHICH WILL LET YOUR EMPLOYER FORCE YOU TO WORK AND NOT GET PAID FOR IT!!!!!

This rule people ,is going to fuck over millions of people. I'm praying that just maybe this might be the straw that breaks the camels back.

I'M READY FOR THE REVOLUTION .
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 07:29 AM
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7. You're not kidding.
Sold out again.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 09:27 AM
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9. what puzzles me
...is that they pull this crap during a period of high unemployment.

If they can get 40 hours covered at straight time by assigning 10 additional hours to 4 employees, they can lay off a 5th employee and not have to pay for that person's benefit load. This bill is a job killer.

And then Lou Dobbs can crow about the amazing 'productivity gains' of the American worker!

Face it...we're little more than serfs.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 10:37 AM
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10. Veyr important point - this very well may lead to more job losses
just because some employers... can...
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 12:19 PM
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11. and why?
Why would any sane administration force such legislation during an election year, one which very well might affect those "Reagan Democrats" they so love and drive the unemployment rate up further?

All I can assume is it's because first, they know the news media won't cover this (and they haven't, too busy talking about Kobe and J-Lo), and second, because they plan on stealing another election anyway.
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