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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:02 PM
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Poll question: Would you trade George the Lesser for his dad in office?
On another board someone commented "At this point, I'd rather have anyone besides Bush in office, even his father."

And I have to agree. They may not be too different policy-wise, but at least Bush I isn't quite so embarassing. There's a difference between a bad leader you hate and such a simple-minded fool that's the laughingstock of the whole world it makes you embarassed to be from here.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:04 PM
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1. I would trade Emperor Smirkenstein* for Nixon
I would NOT trade him for Ferd Marcos, Hitler, Stalin, nor Saddam Hussein.

So he's got THAT going for him.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:05 PM
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2. Actually, I think there is a big policy difference
Bush the Elder was no Reaganesque style tax-cutter. I tend to think of him as a relatively moderate Republican, although the situation was helped by the fact that Bush 1 had to work with a Democratic congress.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:06 PM
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3. I just realized another difference
judges. at least Bush I gave us Souter.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:10 PM
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6. He wrote my dad a thank you letter
After my dad wrote him to commend his stance against the NRA (I don't recall why he was standing up to the NRA...assault weapons ban, maybe?). It's just a short little note on Presidential stationary, but I think it meant a lot to dad. But I'll be goddamned if that note would ever translate to my dad voting Republican.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:07 PM
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4. you mean the real president bush?
Yes I would. When the fiscal situation deteriorated he did the right thing and asked the wealthy to pay more in taxes, though his "read my lips" promise was an act of total stupidity.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:08 PM
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5. To His Credit, Bush Raised Taxes
when the defecits continued to mount even though it cost him dearly in the next election.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:11 PM
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7. George the First was an abomination. George II is deadly.
George Herbert Walker Bush was a terrible president, completely out of it, without a clue or caring bone in his patrician body. George W. Bush is a clear and present danger to this nation and the world. I despised the first; I fear what is coming with the second. I would take the first in a heartbeat over the second.
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:23 PM
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15. Both Bonesman
They were both Bonesman. As were their ideological predecessor William Howard Taft. Taft was the president so odious that it compelled Teddy Roosevelt to bolt his party (Republicans) and challenge him. They've been the party of big business ever since.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:17 PM
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8. No
The are both evil incarnate.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:24 PM
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9. At least Daddy could speak.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 04:24 PM
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10. as bad as Bush I was, at least he was freaking elected
I mean, I thought he sucked but I always accepted him as my president.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:00 PM
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11. In a heartbeat. He didn't listen to the neo-cons
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:04 PM
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12. Kind of like asking which 'Whitehouse", which were both outhouses
during 41 and 43's presence, smells better.

A difference that makes no difference is no difference.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:19 PM
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13. There is also the diff between a man who has accomplished stuff.
Bush the Elder flew combat in WWII, ran oil companies, was elected to Congress, directed the CIA, and was VP. He did all that without having a famous daddy (not that his daddy was a nobody, but his daddy sure wasn't President).

Pappy was definitely running the show when he was President, unlike the silver-coke-spooned, alcohol-addled arrogant moron that occupies the place now.
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:26 PM
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16. No no

His daddy was a VERY, VERY wealthy Banker, Bonesman, Senator and Nazi Financier/Sympathizer. Anyone who gets in Skull and Bones is "hooked up" to begin with.

Oh and by the way, Prescott Bush allegedly looted the grave of Geronimo and brought his skull back to "The Tomb" to honor their pagan altar goddess.
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Valjean Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:20 PM
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14. Bush Sr was better

Bush Sr was better at hiding is contempt for ordinary people. The apple doesn't fall to far from the tree. Nor did it fall too far from the Nazi Grand-tree.

Bush Jr. is simply a little farther along on the Reich Wing's master plan of global feudal corporate fascism.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:52 PM
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17. Dad helped set the stage for this act to play out on. nt
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:54 PM
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18. He didnt mastermind this though
this isnt his worldview taking over, just his desire for continued power for his family. The neocons were no big fans of Bush senior, but the bush clan was willing to form the coalition of the damned to get one of thier own in the top spot again.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 05:56 PM
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19. Yeah!
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methinks2 Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-23-04 06:01 PM
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20. Good Grief!
Just last night I watched a documentary again called "The Panama Deception" . BushI was prez when we bombed entire neighborhoods of civilians and used experimental laser weapons on civilians. I also saw Cheney and Powell all over the news clips for that war. Maybe no.1 was smarter but he was still just as bloody. :puke:
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