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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:54 PM
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A great graphic on Bush's downward poll numbers
Pollkatz has been updated! At this rate, Bush could very well be in the 40s by September.

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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:55 PM
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1. I'm betting the overall trend is irreversible.
I think he will keep sliding. There is nothing he can do to reverse this downtrend.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:00 PM
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5. What
What about this other poll that everyone's talking about? The one about Democrats being in the worst shape they've been in since, well, 50 years ago, or something like that?
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:07 PM
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7. The last time I checked that thread
the originating poster had no source other than "World Net Daily".

Nobody had been able to corroborate the alleged datum.
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Composed Thinker Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:16 PM
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12. Okay, good
I saw a poll recently, and it's annoying the hell out of me that I can't remember which one, that showed that Democrats have a big advantage over Republicans on issues like the economy.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:13 PM
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11. I think that was that DLC poll
they said the number of people identifying themselves as Dems is the lowest in 50 years (or something like that). It had nothing to do with Bush's approval rating and doesn't mean we can't win in 2004. We still need independents to win in 2004 - nothing new there.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:04 PM
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14. I
think it's a commonly accepted fact that the two parties are at rough parity with a slight edge to the Democrats.
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fsbooks Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:56 PM
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2. Nice Graph
I like it. I do!!
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:57 PM
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3. very interesting
thanks. it takes a long time to turn a big ship.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 09:58 PM
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4. What a graph!
Do you have a link??
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:08 PM
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9. Yes
www.pollkatz.com
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:09 PM
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10. "drlimerick.com" written as a source on the graph
This is the address I get when I look at the image's properties:
http://www.pollkatz.homestead.com/files/MyHTML4. gif (Note, I added a space to prevent the link from showing up as an image)
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:07 PM
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6. the spikes coincide with violent attacks
First 9-11, then the invasion of Iraq.

It's interesting that the invasion of Afghanistan didn't seem to help him.

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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:08 PM
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8. He was still high on 9/11 then
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 10:31 PM
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13. I check Pollkatz everyday
You will notice several things about this poll. Look at the flat pre-9/11. It is also a wider band. The public at large had a much looser opinion that was fairly steady approval at a low level (the disapproval, which is much more important for seeing vulnerability is a mirror image for the most part). The general public had a low approval level, but didn't care much.

Then look at post 9/11. The expected and nearly universal rallying around the leader, and very tightly congealed opinion. The general public was supporting their leader, but slowly over time and in a steady decline, he was losing it, until...

The Iraq war began in earnest, whereupon there was another abrupt uptick, but not nearly as much as before, again a tight band of opinion, and then a much steeper decline. Far less people were influenced by this crisis, probably those opposed to the war sat this uptick out, and then even those who supported the uptick got fed up, and fed up quickly, bringing us back to pre-9/11 levels, which were never really that good for Bush.

We now have a wartime president who has low approval ratings.

So with roughly 30 percent of the left and the right unmovable, what is the 40 percent in the middle going to do, and is the right 30 percent really unmovable? The 40 percent in the middle do not like to get involved in politics at all until within a week of election day. You can see that they are giving low approval, and high disapproval: they have currently decided against Bush. I have heard a lot of grumbling from the 30 percent far right base. They have nowhere to go but Bush, but I feel that a they are demoralized and not energized behind "their" program. If a third either cross for another candidate or stay home, the Republicans are in deep water.

Remember Bush will raise at least $200 million, and he can cause enormous mischief with that kind of money.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:30 PM
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15. Bush still not out of the game
At this point Clinton had a lower approval rathing (I think in the high 30's low 40's). That according to CNBC's Capital Report.

So while Bush is dropping like a stone, he still has a comfy bit of room to relax!

We must keep up with the fight.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-03 11:38 PM
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16. Very pretty...
on my new used color 'UCD Bargain Barn' monitor. I've seen this graph before but it didn't have the same impact in black and white (actually army green, midnight blue, and mustard yellow) as it does in technicolor. PRETTY!

FORTY PERCENT AND FALLING has a nice sound to it!!!!
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