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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:47 PM
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Who has already written their federal reps about Bush's attack on gay marr
I have a draft letter if anyone needs help.

HINT HINT HINT!
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:57 PM
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1. reps
I will write my 2 repub. senators. I don't believe the constitution gives our president the right to make into law who can be married and who can't. I don't care how much he brings religion into it, it would not be constitutional.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 02:59 PM
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2. I'll be glad to but
do you think Saxby Chambliss or Zell Miller would care?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:12 PM
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4. It couldn't hurt to write them
make them go on the record stating their opinion one way or another
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:52 PM
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13. yeah, you're right
In fact, now I feel less silly for all the other emails and letters I've sent about issues we are opposites on.

(But, come to think of it, neither has gone on record regarding abortion rights, head start education, etc. At least not by replying to any letter I'VE sent!).
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:01 PM
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3. I'd like to see your letter
I'm sure Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and John Olver (my rep) would welcome yet another letter from me!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:13 PM
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5. here's the draft of my letter
I am writing out of concern for comments that President Bush made today regarding gay marriage. I strongly disagree with his call to codify the legal description of marriage as between a man and a woman only. As a gay man, I feel that this discriminates against me on the most basic levels.

I am asking you to oppose any attempt to define marriage as between a man and a woman, ignoring those gays and lesbians in permanent, loving and stable relationship who would wish to legalize their relationship through marriage and all of its legal benefits.



It's fairly basic and I don't try to argue the issue. I just voice my concerns and my position
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:16 PM
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6. JUst sent an enmail to Specter
Slimetorum is a hopeless cause.
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GayboyBilly Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:20 PM
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7. I have already...
sent mine off!
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:26 PM
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9. write him anyway!
if we don't make our voices heard on this, the right wing will!

If this passes Congress, which I think it will, then we need 21 states to vote against it.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 04:58 PM
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10. no
only 13.

my prediction is that it comes just short of 2/3s in the House.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 05:52 PM
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11. it requires 3/5 of the states to pass it
that's 30

is my math that far off?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 08:04 PM
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18. it requires 3/4
Edited on Thu Jul-31-03 08:05 PM by ButterflyBlood
http://www.usconstitution.com/Read.htm#5

Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 03:54 PM
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21. where the hell did I get 3/5?
thanks for the correction
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 03:23 PM
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8. I will
Dayton is definately worth writing to, Gutknecht is a loss cause, Coleman might not be though since he wants to look moderate and MN is a pretty gay-friendly state, and because the state GOP has just gotten loads of shit for a homophobic bill and some crap an idiot state legislator said so bigotry won't be too helpful here for awhile.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 06:22 PM
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12. please keep this kicked!
n/t
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:16 PM
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14. you guys don't get it
Why do you think the administration is making such a big deal about the whole "gay marriage" thing?

Because they know that mainstream America is against it. And they can say "look what the liberals are up to NOW" and shit like that.

And it's gonna work unless we back off from it.

We have BIGGER FISH TO FRY THAN GAY MARRIAGES.

We have a commander in chief who has murdered thousands of people and is sending this country back to the dark ages and you want to argue about gay marriage?

You're playing EXACTLY into their hands.

Keep your eye on the ball. Which is Slaughtergate, and the 9/11 coverup.

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Christian73 Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:59 PM
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17. Maggrwaggr
I really don't appreciate your assertion that somehow gay rights are less important than other issues.

Yes, I'm sure BushCo. is using this to stir up anti-gay sentiment but I refuse to lay down over it to foster other parts of my political agenda.

And shame on you for suggesting we should.
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Trad Bass Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:20 PM
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15. Dwickham - Why do most gays want marriage so badly?

I am a white single heterosexual and am just curious.

Thanks

Trad
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 01:00 PM
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20. why do I want gay marriage
because my partner isn't eligible for my social security benefits or pension if I die before him

my family could swoop in and take everything that we have built together.

the state doesn't have to recognize any power of attorney that I give him over my property or health care decisions.

because it's a sign of my love for him.

I want marriage for all the same reasons that heterosexual couples do.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-03 07:42 PM
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16. This issue is REPUBLICAN BAIT
Don't take it.

It's a clever tactic to take everybody's eyes of the slaughtergate ball.

Ignore them and they'll go away.

They're not going to amend the freakin' constitution. It's the same as that flag-burning amendment. Just designed to stir people up.

And apparently it's working
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 12:57 PM
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19. ignore them?
yeah, the amendment now has 75 co-sponsors in the house

this is a very real threat.

I'm not going to sit by the right wing takes away more rights from me just because I'm gay.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-03 03:57 PM
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22. Holy Crap Dwickham
I'm writing right now... though I doubt my rep will care.

Sue
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