"I Wish He Would Quit Bashing Bush*"

This came from my wife last night. We were watching the Daily Show and they did a bit on Senator Kerry who was bashing Bush* for wearing a flight suit and standing in front of a big banner saying Mission Accomplished. Kerry was wearing a new work coat and standing in front of a banner. Quite Ironic. Anyway my wife is as "Liberal" as they come and she doesn't like Bush* at all. She is a very good and kind person and she is starting to almost feel sorry for Bush*. She said Kerry was starting to put her off because she wants to be up-lifted not brought down to their level. Here is our dilemma. We need to bash him because it is warranted but our true Liberal base thinks we are being mean. I mean when my wife says we are going to far then I suspect we should pay attention. She is middle class and solid Liberal and doesn't like politics because she thinks they all are full of shit. I just thought I would let everyone know a Red Flag has been sent up. We need to pay attention. I'm not suggesting we lay off of Bush* just to beware that not all are as ready for this war as we are.

We are on the defensive here. Every time we try to bring information to light Bush and his cronies bury it.

The American people NEED to see what kind of person Bush really is.

We can't sit back and play nice. We have to play hardball because it's the only way to get the message out.

I understand her feelings on the subject. I would be much happier if everyone would play fair but I just don't see it happening.

doing the bashing on Bush and let Kerry be more Presidential. I think it will start happening over time, at least I hope so.

That is exactly what is needed. Thank you

but the candidates are the ones who are getting the press now. If the media would cover regular politicians like they cover the major candidates we'd be all set. Kennedy is the only one who ever gets mentioned in the news.

The game of politics, as played by Amerika in the 21st century, is a dispicable blood sport.

If we do not take the gloves off and continue to pound bushler in the face until he is bloody and beaten prostrate we will not recover our country from the traitorous corporate globalist power elite. If we do not win this election the country and world will be lost to the bourgeoisie forever.

Don't kid yourself, the bushler gang will be pounding Kerry below the belt relentlessly, so we must keep up the body work and head shots just as relentlessly.

Liberals better get some balls or they will be uncerimoniously presented with them by the wrong wing in November.

Only stole election 2000, has ruined our name in the world and killed over 10,000 innocent people and we shouldn't' ...bash....him. That is why I am through with liberals -let me vomit them from my mouth right now.
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Let surrogates do the dirty work. It has to be done, though.

from politics because he thinks they are all full of shit. He hates the idea of voting for the "lesser of two evils". However, unlike your wife, he thinks the dems are being to soft on the chimp and his handlers. There is no "lesser of two evils" where the chimp is concerned. He is an incompetent boob and if bashing him is the only to expose him, then my husband thinks the bashing needs to be relentless.

After all we are the supposed to be the "nice guys" and when we play by the Repub rules we come off looking like hypocrites. Conversely when the Repubs run their array of dirty tricks they are just acting like everyone expects them to act with little or no consequence.

Personally I think Kerry needs to stay above the fray and let the media and lower echelon Dems do the "dirty work" for him. Its a fine line and one we should be concerned with not crossing.

That your wife was responding to a sense that Kerry was doing the same kind of posturing that Bush did with the flight suit. i.e., here's a wealthy New England Preppie trying to dress and act like blue collar workers in the same way a cowardly Bush was trying to act like a brave pilot?

Hmmm... maybe that was it.

But, we've got to hit Bush and hit him hard. Otherwise, we're done for already. The only way to shake these people awake is to absolutely expose him and his party for the frauds that they are and the dangers they pose to the American way of life.

No matter how dispicable a person is, she can still manage to muster some pitty for him or her. It is an admirable quality for which the Right mocks us and it is how we know we are better than them.

And THAT's what the people need to hear. The truth. Not worn out cliches.

Do not they remember the 8 years of hell endured by the Clinton family for the most heinous, degrading, insulting prying into their every personal move as well as political?

No one has even scratched the surface of Bush the way the Repukes gouged Clinton. I will never feel sorry for this man and to those who simply refuse to remember or say "that is wrong to play tit for tat"...well you will surely see a repeat of 2002. Dems lose.

The maladministration has enough disastrous policies and anti-constitutional tendencies that we can attack without going after Bush* personally. At this point the media's pack mentality has fastened on the AWOL/character story, so the candidates can back off.

Personal attack, while satisfying in the short run, will not attract the disaffected Republican, and, as pointed out, can disaffect the more civil and fair-minded moderates and liberals (Those who don't either yet appreciate how deeply the rules have changed or refuse to accept the new ones).

For the candidates, the best strategy is not only to attack the failed policies and programs, but most importantly push a strong and optimistic counter agenda that responds to the hopes and fears of the majority of us.

Rolling in the mud with the Republicans won't get the job done.

I don't feel sorry for Bush. Especially knowing Bush had the chance to fight for his country but he chose other options because his daddy had the pull.

Don

of office...its life and death for us, and we want him out asap and exposed..tell her to imagine knowing her loved one is over there..and that bUsh sent them based on a lie, and based on pretending he was a war hero..and that has to be exposed..he sent 100,000's of our kids to war for nothing..let her read these letters from moms and dads whose kids died for nothing...
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He is the one who said he will restore integrity back into the White House. He will leave no child behind. He will create more jobs. In my opinion, he has done none of these things. The only thing he is resting his hat on is this war on terror. This war on terror have cost the lives of over 500 fathers, sons, mothers and daughters. For what????? Iraq had nothing to do with killing of over 3,000 people. Saudi Arabia on the other hand contributed 15 of 19 hijackers and this administration don't even as much blink at them. Then to make matters worse, in the investigation performed following 9/11, the portion of the report containing information about Saudi Arabia, was withheld!

So, in my eyes, he deserves to be bashed. Especially how relentless Hannity, Limbaugh and O'Reilly attacked Clinton. Bush antics are far more worse than what Clinton has done. Far more worse!

That is my two cents.

for this very reason. Kerry, if he really wants to run a good campaign, should be inspiring and articulate a simple, clear, inspiring agenda. The VP candidate and other party leaders should be the attack dogs.

if he wasn't bashing *, we'd be saying "why isn't he bashing Bush?"

Does she think Bush*/Rove will not bash the Democratic nominee tirelessly?

Sadly, it's the tendency of liberals to shy away from such attacks even when fighting fire with fire. That's why Lenny Bruce once quipped "A Liberal is someone who won't even take his own side in an argument."

It's also the reason that the Democrats consistently lose the male vote--we are perceived as weak because we don't fight. It's time to change that.

The fact that she doesn't like politics is a red flag--maybe you need to talk to her about the need to bash bush rather than saying "Honey you are right--we are just like them! Lets focus on the positive message of how we can HELP America".

Here is the difference: Kerry is calling Bush out on issues democrats feel are important--asking that the truth be told. Bush and his administration are using the right wing media whores to bash everything about the possible democratic candidates, to dememonize them for speaking up against a war for oil, to cover up issues that should be important.

And because these guys are in the media, the mainstream democrats like your wife think the media is right and the candidates are the bad guys.

Even if your wife isn't into politics, is she aware of the war? The economy? The push of religion into all aspects?

Is that all we're about? Better Than Bush?

Do we want November to be remembered as a day we were all united by fear of Chimp?

Kerry needs to offer more than Bush bashings, I think.

they show it by turning out at the polls in large numbers so far.

We played nice in 2002 and look what happened. Do you think Rush will play nice for 3 hours a day everyday?

The rules of the game have been clearly defined for the past 20 years. Playing nice and allowing the liberal side of things to play defense has gotten us where we are today.

It's time to attack. The difference between them and us isn't how nice we are or they aren't. It's that we have facts that can be strung together into cogent theses. If along the way, we have to call a liar, a liar; a failure, a failure; or a thief, a thief, then so be it.

To pull punches would only dilute the impact of the charges. Too much at stake to worry about Marquis of Queensbury rules.
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