Why will Gore come back? New poll shows why

Bush Vs Dean
Bush 52 Dean 30

Bush Vs Lieberman
Bush 51 Lieberman 32

Bush Vs Kerry
Bush 49 Kerry 34

Last poll of Gore Vs Bush
Bush 51 Gore 42

When the next Gore v Bush poll comes out I bet he will be within 6-7 points. This is the reason why are thousands of Dems are calling for Dems. If he does come back and some of you dont support him, it will be a sad day in hell. In 2000 if we would have all voted for him instead of Nader or even in the primaries with Bradely we could have won. Then last year you all wanted him to run, and he said he would not. Now I hear some of you saying you would not support him but rather support a "Subpar" candidate who has no chance of winning the general election. I am begning to wonder if this party is interested in winning.

I think it showed in the poll today that people are more likely to vote for someone who doesnt disagree with Bush on every issue rather than vote for someone who is totally opposite.

just got to go with what's out here now....because Gore ain't running in 2004......

Hew will be a divider like Nader.....he does not want to loose officially to *bush.....

He will never run.......

NT

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- That's silly. First...Gore is a Democrat...and he has every right to run if he so desires. Hayzeus...if you're a 'typical' Dem we're really in trouble.

NT

Am I missing something here? Is that the right link?

Don

Gore was 9 points behind in a previous poll like 2 months ago, but would be close now.

Of course Gore would be the overwhelming favorite.

..."Gore was 9 points behind in a previous poll like 2 months ago" before your last post? You insinuated in your first post that this was the most current poll numbers when they are not, and hesitated in proving a link when asked for one. Go away. Go way.

Don

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... matter of fact, if he gets in the race, I'm behind him 100%.

However, your post was intellectually dishonest, whether intentionally or not. I just reread it and you definitely gave the impression that these were recent poll numbers (they're from back in March, over 4 months ago). I thought the numbers looked like the March poll numbers, but even though I remembered the poll and recognized the numbers, I still thought you might be referring to a new poll.

One of the first rules of PR is that if you want people to rely on you as a source of information, then you need to be reliable. If you intentionally omitted the fact that the poll data was from 4.5 months ago, then just don't do that. If it was an accident, then keep in mind that it's always good to source quotes and stats and make sure you include all relevant information.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Gore polled even better now.

I dont know how else I could put it. I showed the numbers of the candidates today and then I said "Last poll of Gore Vs Bush" and gave the numbers. How is that inquiring that I said that they were brand new. I thought when I said the last poll surveyed would be enough. I didnt say anything about being recent. I went on to say that I bet the next poll they do he would only be down like 6-7 points. So I dont see how you got that I said it was a recent poll.

... but a whole lot of us had the impression that you at least MIGHT be referring to a recent poll. Don't forget the subject of the thread included the words "New poll shows why". It's understandable that we would think that you MIGHT be saying there's a new poll with Gore v. Bush numbers. We'd all be very interested if there was one.

I'm not accusing you of anything. No need to get defensive, alright? We all want pretty much the same thing here... we just have different ideas of how to get there.

Either way, it was just a misunderstanding I suppose. These kinda things can be prevented (and your credibility much improved) if you're very meticulous about the language you use and citing sources (links are great).

Take care. :)

Gore/Kucinich 2004!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html

Try to actually write next time and not expect people to read your mind (re: links).

I probably still would go with Dean over Gore. Those polls are only a name recognition thing, because too many people do not know Howard Dean. Just a few days ago, a reporter interviewing Gephardt called him "John" Dean.
Since Kansas has a caucus I am still trying to figure out if I can become involved in it. I still think the race will be over by the time it gets here.
Gore has star power, so I hope he works for whoever the Democratic nominee is. He is free to enter the race, but probably no longer the over-whelming favorite. This I-am-running then no-I-am-not then okay-maybe-I-am does not look like good leadership. I have not heard too much of a draft Gore song coming from the masses.

A new poll just came out today in NH showing Gore with 26%, Dean 17%, and Kerry 14%.

Gore would beat Dean in any poll, even in Vermont.

New Hampshire could still be name recognition. I live in Kansas. Because I am around KC I hear about Bob Holden, but I have never heard of the governors of Nebraska, Colorado, or Oklahoma, nor could I name many of their senators.
As it stands now, Gray Davis probably has a larger name recognition than Dean. Put his name in a poll an see what happens. Obviously the people answering these polls are morons or the poll would be
any schmuck off the street - 89%
Bush - 6%
Sorry, but in a primary I am not going to vote for the person who I think is most likely to get other people to vote for them, I am going to vote for the person who proposes the policies I like best. Really, like I am supposed to base my life on the question: "What would sheeple do?"

n/t

if anything Gore will be a uniter. Do you want to win this election or set up hillary?

She's happy in the Senate. I really don't think for one minute Gore will unite the party. He is sure to loose. Too many have invested into the current candidates. He has no passion and he messed up in 2000. Tried to take the safe approach, lost his home state.....

learn how to spell: not loose>lose

...won the popular vote, enraged thousands of people ( myself included) to lay siege on DC during the coronation of bush, still has a 7 million head start for when he wants to enter the race, has more name recognition then any other candidate, can reach the swing voters who went with Bush last time and wish they could have their vote back...

Al Gore would do more to unite the Dems then any other Dem ,and he will win again! This is a missed oppertunity , if we cant get Gore into this race. The American people want foreign affairs exprience, and exprience on how to fix a broken economy. Also Gore was right on with his predictions of what bush would do to this country. Its simple fact that the time is right ,and Gore is the right man to unseat this squatter, living in his house. Oh what a sweet day it will be when bush jr. has to sit on the stage and watch Gore being sworn in as President ,4 years after he won the election ! Better late then never ! I have nothing against Dean ,its just that I strongly believe he would not win .The news and the repugs will paint him as a liberial Governor of one of our smallest states , with limited exprience on the security of our country ! If you look at polls ,some of them have people picking securithy as the #1 issuse.The press on Gore ,they cant rehash the same B/S as last time ,so what would they use to attack Gore ,who knows and who cares , we havew all heard it B/4 ! bush will use this to his advantage ,with Collin Powell ,Daddy and others to help him on security issuses. You would think the voters would realize they are more like the keystone cops, and have us in a useless war ,thats wasting resources badly needed to fight the real enemy. Rant off !!! In closing ,I would be very excited if Gore was to jump into this race, the beginning of the end for bush jr. term in office. Then just like daddy he can be another one termer, that did not even deserve the one term !

Or a Gore/Edwards ticket may be good. But if this war continues down this slippery slope that it has been on, we will not be able to un any one that voted for the damn thing.


I do believe that Gore is our only alternative, if he would only reconsider.

People over here would support a candidate that has no chance of winning instead of supporting a proven winner.

Gore would be the most progressive President that this country has ever seen, much more than Dean. I don't know how people here can turn on him so easily.

He is a good an honest man, and that might be his problem. it's hard to play fair with a gang of Jackals.

would be a must. With all due respect to Donna Brazile, I don't think she ran a very good campaign. Now a James Carville behind him....... that would put a lock on it. I've stated over and over that I'm a Dean supporter, but in the event that Gore should enter the race, all bets are off. I still believe that Gore would be one of the best Presidents this country ever had. It would be nice to see him elected again.

whoever's supporters get most hysterical & insult
me & my candidate most & try hardest to shove their
candidate down my throat.

NT

anybody who does it in "support" of
any candidate, Dean, Gore, anybody.
It's tempting & I'm not above it but
in my few posts I think I've kept it out
& if I have done it I have no doubt it's
been ineffective. I cant imagine such
action winning converts to any candidate.
Most ironic is the supporter who flouts
the virtues of a candidate & demonstrates
none of them in his/her own posts. Does that
work for you? For anybody? Do people do
it for the silent lurker who they imagine
they're persuading? It seems like it would
turn off the undecideds.

At one time or another I've been turned off by the Dean people and the Kerry people as well as the Kucinich people. But ultimately you have to look past the "fans" and look at the canidates themselves.

Both tickets kick ass and take names in the 04 general.

then he will win in 2004.

Vote Fraud in Tennessee: Worse than Florida?
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10589

I bet TN and FL were the two states the repukes focused on for their voter fraud initiative--Florida because they had it all sewn up with their supporters in all the top jobs and TN because they could use it to humiliate Al forever, even though he won the election.

...gore blew the last election--at least dean isn't afraid of the press and he has much better organizational skills.

unprecedented media attacks on Al Gore.

I think he'll win. All of the media BS about "lies & exaggerations" are old news and have been thoroughly refuted. They won't have the same punch.

The first time around, Gore thought he had to take it easy on Bush in the debates, so he wouldn't be seen as a bully beating up on the mental midget. Now after 4 years of Bush's fake cowboy bluster, Gore can "Let 'er Rip!"

Al, but the fact is, he aint running.
Al, if your reading, give me an honest answer.
Are you going to run?

Dave