Bush used his guard plane to ferry plants from Orlando to Houston

I have maintained for a long time that this could have been what got him grounded..

I cannot see how the Guard would have approved this.. He also said in an interview (which I cannot find righht now) that he often took his brother Marvin with him..(indicates that they did this more than once)

1972 was a very "drug influenced time" in the US
His plane was a one seater?? right?? Where did Marvin sit??
Did he "borrow" a different plane??

What kind of plants WERE those??


What if someone ratted him out, and he got grounded?? Drug testing combined with grounding could have soured him on the guard in a hurry..

Bath's family was involved in the Stratford Agricultural venture..
He was grounded as well..

What kind of "plants" were those?? He also said in an interview that they were south american and central american exotic plants... :)hmmmmmm

Why would a venture put together by millionaires "need" the services of a congressman's ne'er-do-well sons and their pal to get plants for them and fly them to Texas?? and do it in a national guard jet to boot..

Either the boys (GW was 26 ..Bath was older (he was a major)..)got caught for appropriating plane(s) for unauthorized use, and or they got caught with something illegal..

I can see them weaseling their way out by saying, "we were only flying them here..we did not know what they WERE".. hence community service ..:tinfoilhat:....BUT this is on the record that he did it.. It was in the WaPo in 1999 from his own interview..

south american and central american exotic plants... Hmmmmm. Cash crop plants maybe ;)

Interesting catch there SCD :)

...in "his" plane. How can a TANG F-102 be "his" for commuting to work?

Something is very fishy about this whole story. I'm beginning to think those rumors about him being off on CIA bidness are true.

Here's an interview with the guy whose life has been ruined by James Bath, and there's a lot of info in it about this time in George's life.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/white.pdf

dammit.. the best one is from an old Austin Chronicle piece from when he was governor.. He was at some shindig and he was telling a group about how he and Marvin used to "fly the plants" when he was in the guard".. Cannot find it again :(


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072899.htm


snip...

Bush called Robert H. Gow, a Yale man who had roomed with the senior Bush's cousin Ray in college and who had been an executive at the senior Bush's Zapata Off-Shore Co. In 1969, Gow left Zapata and started Stratford of Texas, a Houston-based agricultural company with diverse interests: from cattle to chickens to indoor, non-blooming tropical plants.

"We weren't looking for someone, but I thought this would be a talented guy we should hire, and he was available," Gow said. In early 1971, Gow gave Bush a job as a management trainee. He was required to wear a coat and tie and dispatched around the country and even to Central America, looking for plant nurseries that Stratford might acquire. The newly buttoned-down businessman also moved into a garage apartment that he shared with Ensenat off Houston's North Boulevard, an old 1920s neighborhood close to downtown.

"We traveled to all kinds of peculiar places, like Apopka, Florida, which was named the foliage capital of the world," said Peter C. Knudtzon, another Zapata alumnus who was Stratford's executive vice president and Bush's immediate boss.

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snip.....

Once or twice a month, Bush would announce that he had flight duty and off he would go, sometimes taking his F-102 from Houston to Orlando and back. "It was really quite amazing," Knudtzon said. "Here was this young guy making acquisitions of tropical plants and then up and leaving to fly fighter planes."

at his house... eeeeeek...

Bertha Champagne - Babysitter for the family of Marvin Bush, brother of President George W. Bush, who lived with the family in Fairfax, Virginia, was killed outside the Bush's home on Oct. 6,2003 after being crushed when her car rolled into her, pinning her between the vehicle and an outbuilding on the property (she apparently had accidentally shifted the car into gear after going outside to retrieve something from it). She was 62 years old.


http://216.239.37.104/search?q=cache:LYx9ad834WQJ:www.lifeinlegacy.com/2003/WIR20031011.html+%22marvin+bush%22+stratford+agricultural&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Maybe she knew where Marvin was on 9/11/01. It must have been a stressful time leading up to the big pre-planned event.

You maybe trained to fly fighters but that does not mean you can fly every other plane, as each fly somewhat un-like each other.. This story I read said he took it up like a fighter and landed it strange and the man with him was some what up tight about it all. It sounded just like a thing a boy/man would do but for the life of me i can not re-call where I read it. Bush seems to have done this silly things well into 40 years old, so guess the Republican's would say his teen-age years he was young and foolish just as he keeps saying.

I have posted it before, but can't find the link right now..

It was a flight over Midland..

(see the account of Bush nearly killing Don Evans on a Cessna flight, at the bottom of this page)

http://www.dubyaspeak.com/incidents.shtml

The Bushy Knoll very :tinfoilhat:

http://www.lizmichael.com/bushykno.htm

I hadn't seen this before. Was it posted here at DU?

that he was indeed fighting furiously during those years in Alabama to save us all from Mississippi