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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:42 PM Original message |
Can someone help me with the dem position on hate crimes? |
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auntpattywatty (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. They are a'gin em! |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. hate crimes are meant to intimidate |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. burning cross on private property |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. motivation is always important in determining the crime |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. But |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Not true |
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stopthegop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. aren't they criminalizing thought (in this case hatred)? |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm sorry, but I have a problem believing this isn't flame bait |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Not flame bait |
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sangha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Not utilitarian. It protects liberty |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Criminalizing thought, nope.... |
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ButterflyBlood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. good summary |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. thanks for your reply |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Let me comment |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. That is an excellent point. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I consider "hate crime" a vocabulary invention to say just that. (nt) |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Sorry just saw the reply |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Hi Free State!! |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Thanks |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. We're against them. |
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Mattforclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. So am I, but that's not the issue. |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. Thought vs. Intent |
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enki23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. we already sentence based, in part, on motivation |
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E-Z Rider (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-26-04 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think they are redundant |
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