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Gringo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:21 PM
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Poll question: Did you give Dumbya the benefit of the doubt at first?
I was unhappy at his selection, but until about spring 2002 I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I tentatively supported the Afghanistan annexation,in spite of the pipeline stuff, and took the 9-11 conspiracy stuff with a grain of salt. But when he started banging the Iraq drum, I became rabidly anti-Bush, and was inspired to read more about him, his family history, and the 9-11 timeline.

Anyway, did you give him the benefit of the doubt at first?
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evil_orange_cat Donating Member (910 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:23 PM
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1. I knew better... Repukes are evil (for the most part)
I knew about Dubya's past and I knew that he would be bad for America.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:25 PM
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2. I answered Yeah ! but it didn't take long
Note: I was completely anti-bush before 911 ,
but was in a state of shock for a few weeks
following 911 . So I backed off a bit and watched
skeptically .

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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:25 PM
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3. There never was much doubt
The tactics they used during the recount fight, plus the nomination of Ashcroft as Atty General pretty much erased any doubt that there might have been.

And there wasn't much, even before those events.

Alas, it's been much worse than even I feared.

:-(

Peter
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:26 PM
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4. At the time of 9/11
When Bush's approval ratings were 90%, if you had asked me, "do you approve of George Bush" I would have said no.

If you had asked me, "do you approve of the invasion of Afghanistan," I would have said yes.

I hoped for a while after he was elected that he would govern from the center. I figured that he would have no choice to, after the 2000 election. That didn't work out though, did it?
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:30 PM
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13. My sentiments exactly
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:27 PM
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5. I hated him from the beginning because his guile was ..
transparent even to a blind man.
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JasonDeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:27 PM
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6. I knew he was full of crap.
When he said, "Jesus is my favorite philosopher" I knew he was crap.
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TolstoyAndy Donating Member (493 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:27 PM
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7. Smirking idiot
I hated him from the first time I laid eyes on him because he was obviously unqualified for anything and was living off his father's name (and I always hated his father too).

I'm just a hateful liberal.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:28 PM
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8. No, right from the start,
through 9/11, and to now. I've always seen him for what he truly his: an opportunistic, simple-minded, evil blowhard.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:29 PM
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9. I wanted to
Everyone was saying that he was moderate, so I was willing to give him the benifit of the doubt, but he showed that he was an ultra right wing conservative so quickly, that I didn't have a chance. Doing away with the Kyoto treaty and banning most stem cell research, plus sounding off against Iraq right from the beginning, convinced me that he was an evildoer.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:29 PM
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10. Yeah, like yourself
I supported Afghanistan, but when Chimpy started spouting his shite about Saddam and 9-11, that when I said whoa and started to educate myself about him and his absolutely loathsome family.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:29 PM
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11. In 1999-2000 I was determined to be open-minded ...
... but rapidly found he was even more detestable than his father ... whose divisive rhetoric I abhorred.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:29 PM
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12. No!!! I thought he was a smirky little moron, his dad was a liar and
a crook and I couldn't stand him, his first few months in office he started withdrawing from treaties at breakneck speed, treaties that much more intelligent people than he had written.

When I saw his cabinent I asked my husband, how soon do you think we will be at war?

His attitude with Gore on election night worried me also.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:30 PM
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14. There has been one thing I've been surprised about
I didn't realize they would be so incompetent -- even in trying to achieve their own corrupted goals.

THAT has been a surprise. I was sure that they would have been just as 'effective' as Bush Sr's regime. I was wrong. They are about as effective as a Quayle administration would have been -- perhaps less.

I know realize that if they didn't have a nearly unlimited supply of cash to play with (ie., otherwise known as 'our money'), they wouldn't have survived even this long. Even know, if a goal can be accomplished with merely large sums of money, the Bush administration can accomplish it. If a goal requires more than just the application of piles of money to succeed, they fall flat on their face.
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:31 PM
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15. Yeah......for about a month.....
then he did something outrageous......can' t remember exactly what........stopped funding to women's reproductive rights programs overseas?............anyway, the outrages started piling on, culminating in the Iraq travesty/tragedy.
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:00 PM
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28. Outrageous
Actually, I thnk he moved against women's repro rights on the VERY FIRST DAY he was in office. This may have been his first official act as "acting" president. Can anyone confirm this?
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:31 PM
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16. I thought he'd be a lame duck president because the election.
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 01:41 PM by Cat Atomic
I thought he'd limp through 4 four years without enough political clout to get anything done. I thought he'd be moderate on most issues anyway. I was very wrong.

But yes, I gave him the benefit of the doubt. It lasted about 2 months, then he started fucking everythng up and saying up was down.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:33 PM
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17. Other: I did not give him the benefit of the doubt, but...
...he is far worse than I had imagined. The self-righteousness and the obsession with force, as well as the sheer mendacity of Bush, are all worse than I'd expected.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:34 PM
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18. Hate Bush Personally, No. Hate His Administration
I don't hate George UU Bush personally. I detest his administration, and wondered just how much of the reforms made in the New Deal and afterwards would survive his first term.

I lived through six years of Dubya's governorship and, Cassandra-like, I tried to warn people that Bush's "moderate" mask was a sham. I had few illusions about the quality of "leadership" we'd get in his Presidential administration.

The only time I cut Dubya some slack was during the Afghan invasion. But he's botched the aftermath, too.
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Protagoras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:35 PM
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19. From Florida on I knew it was going to be BAAAD
But even then I could never predict How Bad.
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:36 PM
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20. I told anyone within hearing distance here at work that if bush* was
selected by SCOTUS, he would end up being the most-hated president this country has ever had, and I think my predictions are coming true. And the people that defended him back then are as anxious to kick him out of the WH as I am!!:evilgrin:
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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:36 PM
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21. Well I did approve of Bush after 9/11
My support for him continued until I saw he was very serious about the Iraq war.

Although I don't believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories I am anxious to cast my vote for any democratic candidate this coming November.
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Diogenes2 Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:08 PM
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31. Conspiracy
How about the conspiracy of silence about the hijacked-airplane-related terrorist warnings one month before the event that caused (for instance) John Ashcroft to stop making commercial airline fights in August? Do you believe in THAT conspiracy?
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BradCKY Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:11 PM
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32. I'm withholding judgement
Until I see more definitive proof, besides just that fact and the whole Bush Saudi relationship. Simply because of course Bush was friends with the Saudis look at the oil connections. :)
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:39 PM
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22. I was born in Alabama in 1941 and I knew in my gut
that Bush was much worse than George Wallace ever was.

Bush put a polite face on racism and sexism, but he did not have a clue about poor people. At least George Wallace created community colliges in Alabama. Bush is making life miserable for poor and middle-class people in order to enrich and enpower corporations. I knew where Bush was coming from and where he would go.

After the Supreme Court made its decision, I could not sleep through the night for several months.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:41 PM
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23. I was the long-time catch on type...
But my screen name probably didn't give that away. I voted for him, too. Had I known then what I know now, I would've voted for Gore with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.

But I do promise not to make the same mistake twice. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:46 PM
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24. Not to a guy who stole an election
He was on my shitlist from day one.
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BigBigBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:47 PM
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25. After 9/11
I said that I believed that he had an opportunity to demonstrate a potential greatness that had been previously unhinted-at. I suspended my bashing for a couple of months.

Was it Lincoln who said that some men are born with greatness, some have greatness forced upon them?

Bush dodged greatness with spectacular agility. Which, in my mind, makes his presidency even more troubled.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:50 PM
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26. No, I never gave him the benefit of the doubt.
I researched him as soon as he became the republican candidate of choice. I didn't like what I saw from the beginning. But, I must say that even though I knew what he was all about, he has completely exceeded my expectations of his inappropriateness to be president.
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Tims Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:52 PM
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27. Hey, I'm from Texas
We saw his true colors here well before 2000. He was lucky to get out of here when he did before the chickens came home to roost on all the bad policy he implement here. He wouldn't have been able to stand on his record here anymore than he will be able to stand on his record come November. His only hope is a distraction from his record.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:03 PM
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29. Another Texan
Who knew about him before 2000. I never gave him the benefit of anything.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 02:03 PM
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30. OTHER: A combination of #1 and #4
I hated him and had been following poltics closely enough to see him for what he was. I did not have to bother with him because I saw through him from the very start.

However, after the Bloodless Coup of 2000, I entertained hopes that he would do the right thing and "govern from the center", thus more accurately representing the People.

In other words, I though he might be pResident, but he turned out to be an unabashed Emperor from the very start.

So I answered "other", because neither #1 nor #4 fully explains my position.
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