Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Did Clear Channels ban Stern in areas strategically important to the RNC?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:58 AM
Original message
Did Clear Channels ban Stern in areas strategically important to the RNC?
I am deducing from the RNC holding its convention in NYC that the RNC is hoping to put NY into play.

I'm from upstate NY, which is (unfortunately) Republican country. With Bush playing up 9-11, and the RNC convention being held in NYC, there is a chance more people downstate will vote Republican than usual. The point I'm trying to make is with a strong Bush turn out in the Rochester/Buffalo regions and in NYC, there is a slight to moderate chance that NY could go to Bush.

Stern was banned from KROCK in Rochester, NY. Stern is a popular morning voice in this area. His show was heard through a great portion of upstate NY (probably close to a third of NYS). Buffalo and Rochester (along with much of upstate NY) are very pro-union and have been hit hard by the global economy. They could be very easily swayed to vote against Bush if we hear Howard advocating it.

I'm just wondering if this is part of a larger strategy by the RNC and CC.

Out of curiosity, were the other areas where Stern was pulled, swing areas for their respective states?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Shoedogg Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:00 AM
Response to Original message
1. To my understanding,
CC pulled him from all their stations, not any select stations. Which, I believe, was a whopping total of......six.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. however...
All 6 stations are in important areas - a station in Rochester might reach parts of PA, while Florida had two huge Stern markets.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. Uhhh, Clear Channel..
Clear Channel, "...a subsidiary of Bush, Inc", owns over 1,200 stations around the country.

"...the number of radio stations it owns comprises 10 percent of the nation's total, Clear Channel takes in 20 percent of all radio advertising revenue ($16 billion in 2001) and reaches 25 percent of total listeners. It also owns approximately 39 television stations and more than 770,000 billboards."

<http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/04/18_clear.html>
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #5
9. I'm not one of their listeners.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shoedogg Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #5
21. They own over 1,200 but
Stern was only on six of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:19 AM
Response to Reply #1
11. Clear Channel has over 1200 stations
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 11:41 AM by Lone_Wolf
Stern was pulled from six. Because of this, I'm left wondering why these six were chosen.

Why were San Diego, CA; Pittsburgh, PA; Rochester, N.Y.; Louisville, KY; Fort Lauderdale,FL; and Orlando, FL chosen???

PA and FL are definite battle ground states.

NY and CA are states that traditionally vote Democrat. It isno secret that Rove wants to put these states into play so the DNC has to spend money they normally wouldn't spend there.

I'm not sure about KY... I believe the Louisville is pro-union... Is KY a swing state?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #11
19. I'll answer my own question... Yes... KY is a swing state
According to this:

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/geparty.htm

in 2000 KY voted:

1,200,650 voted Dem
1,697,407 voted Repuke
81,539 voted other.

KY can go either way in 2004.

PA voted:

6,920,102 voted Dem
6,992,146 voted Repuke
290,722 voted Other




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:00 AM
Response to Original message
2. Florida
Due to Clear Channel's suspension of Stern, he is no longer on in Florida.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:08 AM
Response to Original message
4. if howards
ratings in the areas that clear channel had him on are really good there will be stations trying to fire staff to get howard a time slot....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:14 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. aWol + 9/11 = NYC voters? No way.
"With Bush playing up 9-11, and the RNC convention being held in NYC, there is a chance more people downstate will vote Republican than usual."


Unscientifically but with fair certainty I believe that most of us who were in NYC on 9/11 consider aWol is ,in effect , pissing on the graves.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. I'm in Orlando and that's CC country
So no Howard for me...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
16. Is Jim Phillips still on?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 04:44 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. Yah..but he sucks now
he's got about 5 other knuckleheads in the studio with him..They all suck..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:22 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. All I'm saying is this is part of the RNC strategy...
I'm not saying they will be succesful doing it. Unlike my fellow upstaters, I think most downstaters are smart enough not to fall for the Repukes ploy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #4
10. possible, but...
If I recall, Stern uses quite a different method of syndication than what is tradional... they have a big charge up front, but the station then gets to keep a higher percentage of advertising dollars. Normally, there is little to no charge up front, but the program gets a higher percentage of advertising dollars. That is part of the reason he is only on in 41 markets (35 now...) - a mid market station won't put down the up front money, whereas they can pick up Limbaugh or Hannity for very little up front.

So, unless Stern (or CBS/Viacom/Infinity) changes his policy, a station will have to put up big money to get him on in their market. It is a big commitment for some.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:15 AM
Response to Original message
7. Of-course...Mikes gone before the "selection" too.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SoFlaJets Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:25 AM
Response to Original message
13. Stern
has left the darkside and gave a ahem stern warning about GWB being dangerous and if people want to hear him they have to vote him out.I'm very impressed and Howards is back in my good graces.Imagine Imus and Stern campaigning together for John Kerry."Come Together right now over me..."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:26 AM
Response to Original message
14. Here in San Diego...
...They banned him also.

California is still a blue state, but SD is as conservative as it gets. So after hypocritically banning Stern, we still get the pleasure of Roger Hedgehog, the fat junkie, and weiner-boy on the CC network here. Those three are as vulgar and tasteless as it gets. Should have heard hedgecock spout off his filth while the fires were burning in October here. It truly made me ill...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. The RNC has been trying to put CA into play...
So it is possible they and CC have colluded to selectively ban Stern from certain parts of the country where his anti-Chimp message hurts the RNC most.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. I would say it is....
...more than possible, it is downright plausible. CC is working the propaganda game straight from the old Soviet Union handbook--control the mass media.

CC was the biggest rah-rah supporter of the gropenater during the recall. They whipped up a huge group of unregistered voters in California--young college students, into a frenzy, to vote for the nazi. They flooded the polls, most of them first time voters, and were a huge factor in his taking the governor's office here. Funny thing is, the first thing he did was raise college tuitions, and has yet to tax the casinos here like he said he would. Same ol' same ol'. The GOP is still the master of getting the people who will be screwed over the most by them, to vote for them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. "The GOP is
still the master of getting the people who will be screwed over the most by them, to vote for them."

That is so true.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sgt. Peppers Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 11:47 AM
Response to Original message
17. It sounds like something they would do
:(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 02:28 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC