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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:19 PM
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William Pitt's "The 'Passion' of the Americans"
This morning my wife excitedly brought to me the Afro-American newspaper containing Pitt's excellent piece concerning the hypocrisy of America as reflected by Gibson's 'Passion'. My wife was excited because she said as she was reading it, she felt like she was reading something I had written.

She was surprised when I told her that I know who Pitt is. I enjoy reading his posts. I've read his book, and I get his truthouts everyday.

Anyway, I thought I'd take Pitt's article just a half-step further. Pitt hits the nail on the head about the significance of white actors portraying Jesus. The real Jesus is more likely to have looked a lot like "the people sitting in dog cages down in Guantanamo Bay". In other words, Osama Bin Laden looks more like Jesus than the guy in the movie. Obviously, that wouldn't fly in America.

The eerie irony that I find in all of this, is how Americans can completely overlook the similarities of the present situation, with the Jesus Christ story itself. It is us, who just might be, on the wrong side of the story this time.

After all, is it not true that we are now "Rome" on the planet? Who will dispute this point?

Secondly, did not christianity start off as a small sect of religious revolutionaries? The issues were both throwing off the yoke of "Rome", and the saving of souls.

Have we not invaded a country in the Middle East in the same manner that Rome invaded Judea?

How eerie is it that there was actual open discussion among Americans about the propriety of torturing the "terrorists"?

We have captured the so-called "King of Iraq". Some people on the other side regarded him as the "savior" of the Arab world. Will he be "crucified" and serve as fertilizer for a new legend or myth for future generations of people? Or perhaps it will be Osama Bin Laden. We have choices just like the Romans did. Do you want Jesus or Barrabas?

No where does our hypocrisy shine more than in this eerie parallel. We've not given so much as a second's thought as to whether there is something else we could do, besides exterminating the "terrorists", to resolve our differences with other people in the world.

Of course, we know that Rome eventually sucumbed to constant invasion of the "barbarians". Similarly, we are uniting the worlds "teeming hordes" against us.

Why can't we see how arrogant we are? Why can't we get the beam out of our own eyes?







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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:22 PM
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1. History does indeed repeat
"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."
--Karl Marx


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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:39 PM
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6. The Emperor's New Clothes
Through the Looking Glass, A Handmaid's Tale and 1984 all tangled up and on fast forward... Interesting times, indeed.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:36 PM
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10. Did you catch the C-span this morning?
The same sex education proposals were discussed.
http://www.ed.gov
ALL I could think of was the Handmaids Tale.
This is Dominionist driven, make no mistake.
Separate the boys and girls so we can teach
x-tian values of male leadership and female submission.

I thinks its going to get much worse, and then some.
BHN

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:50 PM
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13. More Handmaidens please...
Edited on Sat Mar-06-04 04:52 PM by BeHereNow
Excerpt from the ed.gov site press release: Kay Bailey Hutichinson is
all I need to know. She probably has her own copy of the Passion
that she watches for inspiration....

http://www.ed.gov/news/pressreleases/2004/03/03032004.html?exp=6

"The No Child Left Behind Act contains a provision—sponsored by Sen. Kay
Bailey Hutchison (R., Tx.) with strong bipartisan support—that directed the
Department to issue guidance to school districts about how innovative
single-sex schools and classes could participate in certain No Child Left
Behind programs."

"Single sex educational programs have been available in private schools for
years," said Sen. Hutchison. "It's time our nation's public school children have the
same options as their private school contemporaries. We want to give school
districts the flexibility to respond to the particular needs of their students. Our
goal is to give parents and school districts more choices."

These people are truly dangerous, these "dominionist" x-tians.
Our very own Tali-ban-everything, including equal opportunity
education for boys and girls, cause Jeebus said so in our
twisted interpretation of scripture.
I really think it might be time to hide under a rock.
These people are scaring the hell out of me.
BHN
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:56 PM
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14. For the life of me, I cannot understand the motivation here
this was being discussed on C-Span today and promoted by some guy whose name I do not know.

I simply cannot understand the motivation here. He said it was "separate but equal" Huh? Seems to me I have heard that song before.

Then a caller on the call in called in and said to paraphrase that was a science class in which there was a single female. This female was a "sexually active " female, the caller said. She was responsible for throwing off the learning abilities of the entire class, he said. !!!!



I suspect that this notion of separating sexes in the schools has something to do with putting women into second place, but I still cannot understand how.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:48 PM
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12. Ah, my signature line...
n/t
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:28 PM
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2. I seem to remember
a passion play being done some time ago. I can't remember exactly where it was but the man playing Jesus was black. It caused quite an uproar. Too many people expect the Son of God to look like Ted Nugent.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:36 PM
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5. I heard a caller complain on the Glen Beck show yesterday
that a black co-worker said that Jesus was black. He cited it as one of the reasons that he was only comfortable around other whites.

This is something I have been crying in the wilderness about. I think white people NEED to talk about these things, it's okay. It's therapeutic. But of course, Beck, who was embarrassed because he wants to deny that these kind of people comprise his audience, immediately starts to ridicule the guy, call him a racist, and cut short what could have been meaningful dialog. It got funnier because the very next caller, a white republican conservative women, tried to explain to Beck that she understood what the guy was trying to say. It broke Beck's heart.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 05:05 PM
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16. This reminds me of the Renee Cox photograph that cause such
a ruckus when it was displayed in the Brooklyn Museum.

No one knows what the man Jesus, if he existed at all, actually looked like, We can assume he had the physical attributes of a middle eastern person that we see today--dark skin, brown eyes, had a beard, etc. but actually no one knows

Therefore every depiction is the result of someone's imagination.

In Cox's rendition of "Yo Mama's Last Supper" every apostle was black--except for Judas. Jesus himself was portrayed by the naked Cox herself as the actor, or the result of her imagination, as every other artist before her has depicted the Jesus.

This rendition has been called blasphemous--but actually every rendition of Jesus is a blasphemy since no one knows what Jesus looked liked at all. I have seen pictures of Jesus as a blond , with Western features.





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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:30 PM
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3. I liked that particular article by Will also.
All of his stuff is definitely worth a read but that one made me go "WHOA no shit"! I see his work turn up all over the place. I get an alternative press review weekly e-mailing of various links to articles from left wing outlets all over and his articles are often chosen.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:32 PM
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4. Because the winners write the history books.
And for 2000+ years, they've been 're-interpreting' reality and instead feeding generations of children false mythology to serve as their own crowd-control mechanisms.


:hippie:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:50 PM
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7. Tell your wife thanks
:)
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 03:58 PM
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8. You just made her smile!
:thumbsup:
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:02 PM
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9. I also read the article and liked it. But I didn't show my wife.
Shame on me!
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:39 PM
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11. I question who has the moral high ground in all this stuff going on
First of all, I am an American, but I wonder if we are morally right in much of what America does. Do we have the moral high ground? Is there a thing called morality when nations deal with each other? I want to say yes. The more I learn the more I am forced to recognize that in truth, there is no morality between nations. Of course our politicians speak eloquently about high sounding principles, but the actions tell another story.

When I look back on Chili, Nicaragua, Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Panama, Congo it seems like there is a dissonance between who we say we are and how America acts in the world. Its like America has a split-personality. Of course all this is explained by those that do these things as they are looking out for America's interest in a world full of nations acting immoral, unlawful. That self-interest is all that counts in dealings between nations.

Don't misunderstand, I love America, but I hate some of things done in our name.

Welcome to Rome.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 04:58 PM
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15. But we have Jesus Christ leading us. We can't possibly
be wrong. Or so most people think. Our fearless leader has decreed it. It must be so.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-04 05:08 PM
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17. It is all just so much..posturing..mere words..but here on DU we know this
The public though, they eat that crap up. It makes them feel so, uh, good about themselves. Must keep-up the image of who we are. We wouldn't want somebody to actually see the results of the reality of what is done in our name.

For example, a child literally blown into peaces. A mother laying on a slab, with her children weeping at their loss.

No, we must not break that feel good image of what we want to think about ourselves with the reality of what has been done.

That would never do.
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