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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:44 PM
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FWIW, it looks like Venezuealan oil guy who died in protests...
was shot by marbles.

Some of the deaths attracted much attention, such as the killing of José Manuel Vilas, a former oil industry employee and member of the oppositional organization, “Gente del Petroleo” (People of the Oil). Pictures circulated widely in the news media and in the internet, showing Vilas with his back turned to approaching National Guard troops in the Caracas suburb San Antonio. A second picture then shows Vilas lying apparently dead on the ground. The mayor of the town in which the incident took place, who is a member of the opposition, told the press that the autopsy determined that Vilas was shot by a rifle shot that the National Guard typically uses. However, the website aporrea.org says that documents and pictures it obtained of the autopsy tell a different story, which is that Vilas was killed not by bullets, but by small marbles that were shot at him, one of which was extracted from his body.


http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/articles.php?artno=1121

This is a pretty good article which says some interesting things about the media coverage of the protests.


A marble was extracted from the body of Mr Jose Vilas, killed during an opposition protest on March 1st. Commercial media and opposition politicians had claimed that the projectile that killed Vilas came from a military weapon.

...

Commercial media and opposition politicians initially accused the National Guard of killing Vilas, and based their claims on the statements by the opposition mayor of the municipality where the event took place. The mayor said the wounds were made by assault rifles like the ones used by the National Guard in anti-narcotics and border defense operations. The wounds would obviously be a lot bigger if made by military-type weapons.

Vanessa Davies indicated that a female National Guard officer who was present at that place on that day also received an impact from a hard object, presumably a marble, in her right shin, but she was protected by her special equipment.

...

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1218

And who can forget this picture:
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:50 PM
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1. Can slingshots kill people?
I know slings can hurl a bullet upwards of 200 mph. Which is certainly enough to kill someone.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:50 PM
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2. I didn't forget that picture
but I have never seen it before the last week here on this site. Please explain the babe with the slingshot.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:52 PM
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3. She's anti-Chavez. The picture was taken at the protests last week.
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:54 PM
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4. Ahhhh, thanks
That would explain her lack of pigment then.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 04:54 PM
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5. Figures!
These fascists will stop at NOTHING in their quest to secure the world's resources for the RICH.

:puke:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:00 PM
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6. They'll kill their own for a buck (or millions of bucks, as it were).
Edited on Mon Mar-08-04 05:01 PM by AP
In Zimbabwe days before the last election, the opposition candidate was shown on videotape plotting to kill Mugabe. However, the tape was really awkward. He was clearly being set up to sound like he was plotting to kill Mugabe.

It was given to Mugabe by the British public relations firm which was working for the opposition party.

What was going on was so obvious: when they knew they were going to lose the election they set up their own candidate, hoping he'd be arrested and possibly exectuted.

Instead, Mugabe let the elections continue, and the guy is being tried right now, but he'll probably get off because it was so clearly a set up.

The lesson: when it's money and power the fascists want, they'll sacrifice their own people in order to create a compelling narrative to get them that power.

I guess we should be happy that public opinion still matters.
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:05 PM
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7. When blondes kill with marbles
Think she realizes she could have killed her own leader? I know there's a blonde joke in there somewhere.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:08 PM
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8. Yeah. When you're chosing up sides in your race war...
Maybe you don't want to pick the blonds first.

However, the one in the picture looks like she knows what she's doing.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:14 PM
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9. Perhaps not
She certainly looks confident.

But the angle of the elastic seems to indicate a projectile arc putting the intended target at a goodly distance away.

On the other hand, no way she could run very fast/far in pants that tight.

A weekend warrior from the looks of her. I wouldn't want her watching my back, thanks.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:16 PM
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10. I like the attempt at camoflage: black baseball hat, black halter top.
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CaptainClark23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 05:19 PM
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11. She'd be invisible in a yuppie bar
although, given the locale of the protests you might have a point there, actually.

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:45 PM
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12. Interesting how the anti-Chavez types ignored this news. Nah. Not really.
BTW I had a "Wrist Rocket", like blondie, back when I was a kid and yes they could kill a man easily. I could put ball bearings through all sorts of objects.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-08-04 07:48 PM
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13. The picture of Rizada was used to sell the opposition as sexy a couple
days ago. Now it sort of backfired.

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