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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:29 AM
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Clarence Page says Dem nom will come down to Lieberman vs. Graham

(on The McLaughlin Group)

If that's the case, I will leave the Democratic party never to return. Then I'll probably leave the country after Bush trounces them.

This is sick twisted shit, yet its considered mainstream thought?!
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:31 AM
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1. What did Clarence Page have for breakfast?
Graham, maybe...but Lieberman will be out of the race after New Hampshire or quite possibly if his numbers continue to drop before Iowa. Hey, I can play the part of a political pundit too.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:34 AM
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6. Liberman is still high in every poll
He's the annointed one from the DLC.

I expect him to be nominated regardless and he's becoming the only Dem I may refuse to bring a puke bucket for.

I seriously believe the DLC wants to throw this election to Bush.
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:43 AM
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11. Fear not! There is no way on God's earth Lieberman gets it.
I've been around the block a few times, and this is just chutzpah and blarney talking. Lieberman may be preferred by the rightist Dems who pay attention to events, but by the average Dem, never. Not in a million years.

It will be either Kerry or Dean and either Graham or the General.
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tpub Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:57 AM
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23. I think you've got it exactly right
Kerry/Graham (my choice)

or Dean/Clark

All Lieberman has is name recognition courtesy of Gore.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:59 AM
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14. Page did say that Lieberman would end up with the money endorsement
which is DLC controlled, as I suspected
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:54 AM
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20. It is still name recognition
The general populous is not involved yet. Posters on the DU are, and the viewers of cable news are, but that is not a significant portion of the general populous. Lieberman is basking off his VP run in 2000. Trying to handicap the 2004 race based on polls taken right now is like trying to predict what will be in physics books 300 years from now.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:31 AM
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2. Page is very middle of the road - but so is America.
Who knows? I personally doubt that prediction - but the decision is a long way off.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:33 AM
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3. Ah, . . .
more beltway "wisdom." <yawn>
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:34 AM
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4. Clarence Paige has the credibility of,
say, George W. Bush.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:34 AM
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5. Is it possible..
..that by the time primaries come around, Dean will sweep everything but the South? He'll win Iowa and New Hampshire, pretty much cementing support from coast to coast?

I think it's a longshot, but if this momentum holds.. geez.. the press he's getting lately is phenominal. Had Gore been treated half as nicely, he would've won by five million votes.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:38 AM
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7. This is "August press". Revving up a story while few are looking.
Do not fear - whoever gets the Dem nomination will get the "treatment".
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:40 AM
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9. Of course they will...
...the difference is the Dean team will keep substantial archives, and lots of willing volunteers. Any writer that trots out the treatment will get a treatment of their own. The media whores and corporations don't get to vote, we do. They'll do their job, or they will face the consequences.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:44 AM
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12. I'm not so sure about the South
I think Dean has a chance here in Arkansas. I don't think Lieberman has a chance here, though Graham has his supporters.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:39 AM
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8. They are trying to brainwash the rest of the world.
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mjb4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:40 AM
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10. Me too! Lee Alcorn was right!
who is driving these decisions and why are blacks being relegated to the back of the bus.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 09:50 AM
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13. Bob Graham Is O K -Liebermnan Isn't
Bob Graham has never lost a race in over thirty years-successfully running for governor and senator in the fourth largest state in the Union. This is no small feat as Florida is an amazing mix of urban, rural, and suburban.

He's pro choice

pro gay rights

anti-Bush tax cuts

anti-Iraq invasion

I ask you. What's not to like?
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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:54 AM
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21. Graham Panders to Repukes - if he's nominated -- I go Green!!!
Gore was smart to reject Graham for VP. Voters should take a close look at Graham's loyalties. It's certainly not for his American constituents!!!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:55 AM
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22. And Graham raised the impeachment issue
and stuck it to the Republicans!
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:10 AM
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15. Normally I like Page but...
I think he needs to go soak his head for a week. I think Lieberman's numbers are due to name recognition, given that the media can't be bothered to cover the other candidates in a way that lets anyone know what they're about. I like Graham, I just don't know yet how he's playing across the country.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:11 AM
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16. So who's got a working crystal ball?
It's MONTHS before the first ballots are cast! How is anybody supposed to know at this point?
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:14 AM
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17. You and me both!
> If that's the case, I will leave the Democratic party never to
> return. Then I'll probably leave the country after Bush trounces
> them.

You and me both!

Atlant
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:16 AM
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18. could you say
totally infected with the Beltway Syndrome, where actual thought is twisted by the echo chamber. and keep telling yourselves that Bush cannot be beaten and refuse to hear anything outside the beltway.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:50 AM
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19. That guy needs to quit smoking that wacky tobaccy
:wtf:
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:59 AM
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25. hey now...Clarence Page might as well be right in the middle of the middle
he is not left...not right...a black man who seems to straddle 6 fences...

if he thinks this way...well, I just gotta say :wtf: myself


has it gotten so bad?
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:58 AM
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24. Lieberman? what type of weed is he on?
and where can i get it?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:03 AM
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27. He said this after the poll that showed Lieb's polls flip-flopping w/ Dean
The poll would suggest that Lieberman is not gaining the appeal he thought he might.
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whoYaCallinAlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:01 AM
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26. What in the world is he basing THAT on?
I would love to hear his reasoning.
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