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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:03 PM
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Parents--Be Aware! No Child Left Behind Act gives your kid's name to Army
You can opt out if you request it, but no one knows this!

This is the real reason Bush passed No Cannon Fodder Left Behind because it creates list Selective Service can compare with to check draft registration compliance.

http://www.bendbulletin.com/news//story.cfm?story_no=12895

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Since Congress passed the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, schools everywhere have been required to give juniors' and seniors' names, addresses and telephone numbers, if requested, to military recruiters. (Though the law refers to secondary school students, the U.S. Department of Education has said it applies specifically to juniors and seniors.)

But parents can opt out. They can ask districts to withhold their children's contact information. And some parents are saying no to the military. They don't want the phone calls, the mailings, the contact. They want to be left alone.

This school year almost 10 percent of the parents of the roughly 4,400 high school students in the Bend-La Pine School District filled out the district's military nondisclosure form. This is the first time the district had a form specifically about military recruitment.

Throughout Central Oregon, most other districts don't have a similar form and most parents don't opt out. As of late February, no one had opted out in the Sisters or Crook County school districts, one parent had in Culver; the parents of three children had in Redmond. The parents of 35 students declined in Jefferson County — the only other district that issues a nondisclosure form geared toward the military recruiting question.


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Draft of kids now 19 begins June 15, 2005, as Bush is spending 28 million dollars to ready the DRAFT this year for his assumed re-election and the conquest of more oil-bearing sands. Read this for more:

http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:07 PM
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1. My 18 yo gets 3-4 calls WEEKLY from Marines
They won't take no for an answer. We told them flat-out, "No, I will not give him the message." We've asked them not to call...and they don't, for a week or two, then it starts again.

They have his name. They know he isn't off at college. They're after him. Fresh meat.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:09 PM
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2. If Bush is re-elected, he will be in the 2006 DRAFT
No student deferments, no Canada probably.

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:51 PM
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11. Believe me, I know...wife and other son, too.
My wife is an APRN, under 45...she is also in the draft target now. My second son is 16, right in the window of vulnerability. I've devoted the last two years of my life to bringing that lying SOB Bush down...this is much of the reason why. I've pleaded with them to listen to me, that this was REAL, but they both say "Why haven't we heard about it on teevee then?" AAARRGGGHHH! So I printed out the pages of draft info posted here the other night and had them all read it. No we're all freaked out together, as a family!

Bush...the uniter!
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:48 PM
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14. I get letters in the mail
from the military every week...I was a nurse for 27yrs, and I think they get our info from state board of nursing because I've got an unlisted phone number.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:41 PM
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17. I'm already in college
in Canada and they still pester my parents because I'm not 18 yet. I have a student visa and I'm entitled to stay in Canada permanently until 2007. However, I think if there was a draft I would report if called upon. I don't want to be called a coward, and I would be honored to serve my country in spite of those right-wing fools who think liberals don't love the US. They can kiss my ass.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:58 PM
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12. Call your Congressman and Senators and complain
"The only thing that will get us to stop contacting the family is if they call their congressman," says Major Johannes Paraan, head U.S. Army recruiter for Vermont and northeastern New York. "Or maybe if the kid died, we'll take them off our list."

http://www.motherjones.com/news/outfront/2002/11/ma_153_01.html
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ronnivic Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:11 PM
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13. Again, call your congressman
He/she should be able to fix that.
Hasn't this law been in effect for several years? I may be wrong, but I've been cautioning my daughter about this for the biggest part of the year. (She has 3 young boys and a girl.)
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Goldom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:09 PM
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3. how do you opt out?
I don't wanna die ;_;
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:11 PM
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4. The parents must request to the high school that the name NOT be given to
the recruiters. Should do that when you are 15 or 16 BEFORE they get it (see above post on pestering phone calls)!
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Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:19 PM
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5. If your school is good...
It will make the opt out notice a part of the introduction to high school. My daughter's high school counselor handed each parent an opt out form during the meeting in which she signed up for ninth grade cases.

This sharing of information is older than the Bush administration ... I remember a mandatory military aptitude test (which included the collection of names, addresses, and phone numbers) when I was in high school during the Vietnam era, and the flood of mail that followed.
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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:55 PM
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16. Just don't sign the dotted line
Pretty simple.
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:22 PM
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6. "Hello Mudder, Hello fodder, Here I am at Camp.....
...etc.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:49 PM
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10. OMG - An Allan Sherman Fan, LOL !!!
Bringin back some very fond memories, thanks!

:hi::bounce::hi:
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lucidmadman Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 11:48 PM
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18. ...and the head coach wants no sissys...
...so he reads to us from something called ULLYSES...
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MAlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:27 PM
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7. yeah, i opted out
Edited on Wed Mar-10-04 09:50 PM by MAlibdem
my mom was pissed OFF (that is was in there, not that i opted out)
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:39 PM
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8. Just one of the many destructive components of NCLB.
Another DUer just posted that Kerry supports NCLB, and wants to "fully fund" it. Is this true? If so, he's lost any support I might have considered.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 09:45 PM
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9. I remember when I was in HS
I got at least 6 calls from the same damn Sargent! I told him I wasn't interested but he was not buying it... he even wanted to show up at my house for a visit...thankfully I talked my way out of that one!!!
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-04 10:52 PM
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15. Holy crap!
I'm scared for my friends!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 09:58 AM
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19. Act text
January 8, 2002 - On January 8, 2002, President Bush signed the No Child Left Behind Act, supposedly to provide accountability education policies. Yet hidden within the 670-page piece of legislation is Section 9528: "each local educational agency receiving assistance under this Act shall provide, on a request made by military recruiters or an institution of higher education, access to secondary school students names, addresses, and telephone listings." All schools must comply with this unfunded mandate or they lose their federal funding. This amounts to legislated blackmail for student names. The act also says: "A secondary school student or the parent of the student may request that the student's name, address, and
telephone listing not be released without prior written parental consent, and the local educational agency or private school shall notify parents of the option to make a request and shall comply with any request."

http://www.ed.gov/policy/elsec/leg/esea02/index.html
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terryg11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:02 AM
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20. to defund public education was the real reason
this is just some little bonus they threw on to please an enabler
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-04 10:14 AM
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21. That's true. Whole states are giving up federal funding to avoid the Act
Cheney figured out a way to have people begging to give up federal funding for education!

Someone said this clause was in previous school legislation and I'm sure that's correct.
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