Looks like Bush ripped off Kerry in the ad department

First off, Bush's ads are extremely unconvincing because they seem to have that "let's play pretty music and show pics of kids and average Americans and the sheeple will get in line."

Funny how in this ads they don't mention how your average working person would probably like to give Bush a piece of his mind about being laid off.

Even his "attack" ads lack substance to really do damage to Kerry. "900 billion in taxes" What does this mean to your average voter? I see it as "hmm he's gonna bring back the Clinton taxes which means the rich is going to get hit harder" while others might think "hmm just what we need to maybe help out the deficit or possibly fulfill some broken promises (no child left behind plan)

Lastly what a shameless rip off. "100 days" where have we heard that? hmmm "100 days to change America" ring a bell? Next we're going to see Bush take Kerry's "The Real Deal" and change to the "Real...er..umm..CHANGE!

Lastly he's got about as much chance of convincing your average citizen that he's going to be "strong on terror" especially when they find out about his dealings with the Saudi royals and the Bin Laden family.

On a sidenote all you Kerry doubters out there PLEASE read his book "A Call to Service" Seriously unless you're a radical leftist I doubt there's too much you can really dislike about this guy.

Also many of you may not know this but there is one aspect of the Patriot Act I can think of that is good that Kerry wants to keep. This is in case the Repug smear machine screams "Kerry supports the patriot act but then claims to hate it! what a flip flopper!" Actually what Kerry supports out of the Patriot Act is the notion that inter-agency cooperation is now a requirment.

Believe it or not cooperation has always been substituted by rivalry between govt agencies such as FBI and US Customs resulting in the loss of captures, ect. I could get into this more but it's late I'm tired g'nite DU'ers.

Bush "simplifies" his message for those voters who look no farther than the candidate to make their choice.
His message: Strong Families will solve all your problems, 9/11, jingoism,. forget my screw ups, strong families. If anyone gets anything else from his ads, let me know, i must just be missing it!

The ads gave me a sense of good old republican family values. If you can call family values raising huge deficits, lying about a war and then covering your ass, spending millions making sure 2 people who love each other are treated as second class citizens, and so on.

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It was on Fox news of course.

It wasn't one of the attack ads. It was just lame. It showed your average American doing everyday activities such as teaching in classrooms and such. It was talking about liberty and the American dream.

Of course it didn't affect me. The democrats could nominate a Hedgehog at the convention and I would vote for the Hedgehog in November. I am willing to bet the Hedgehog would pull in at least 35-40% of the vote. lol

Because you already know they're bullshit. My point is I wonder if your centrist American or fence sitter basically is saying "what the hell did I just watch? a presidential ad or MCI's latest long distance commercial?"

The problem with raising taxes is that it takes someone who believes in sacrificing now for a better future later.

But John Kerry does not do self-sacrifice very well. He represents excess, like $75 haircuts, botox treatments, $12 million dollar houses, etc.

People will look at him and say "it's easy for you to raise our taxes, you won't suffer a bit!"

Kerry's money is really going to get in the way of his arguments.

Those with incomes of $200,000 NOT those of the middle class. He's made that message pretty clear.

Secondly Bush with his $15k suits and millions attacking Kerry for being "excessively rich?" Kind of like Woody Allen accusing Larry King of being excessively dorky looking.

Actually, Kerry is rolling back the future tax cuts on people in HIS bracket. In other words, he will suffer.

Nice try though.

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in the $200K+ tax bracket is "suffering."

He's willing to lead the way by paying more in taxes himself than he does now, and he's committed to give the middle class a bigger tax break than now. How does that fit into your argument?

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He gets a tax hike. How does that get in the way of his argument?

A whole lot of it anyway. Is it okay to say this yet? I've been afraid to. :scared:

is not to "convince" voters, but rather to put the opponent on the defensive and hope the opponent puts his/her foot in their mouth

typically, taking the 'high road' and not responding doesn't work - it can be construed as not being able to defend one's position and therefore the 'attack' is true -- or -- the opponent lacks the guts to respond -- either case it leaves a bad impression

bush*'s record is riddled with miserable failures. His attacks soooo soon in the race, and coming 4 months (give or take a week) before an official Democratic candidate is nominated shows extreme signs of desperation. Some may say that it's carrying the "pre-emptive strike policy" into the political field, but it looks more like a pre-mature expulsion of more bush*t to me

we pretty much know that as far as news cycles go and voter memories/attention span - that they are fairly short term. Attacking now, as opposed to after July 2004 is jumping the shark. There is the distinct probability that voters will grow bored with the attacks, and then become more annoyed -- this could result in people actually thinking and questioning the validity of the ads, and wondering just what has bush* really done to our country.