The Fire Of The NRA

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=677

Last week the most powerful satanic cult in America once again flexed its mighty political muscle in the United States Congress- no, not the Republican Party, but the National Rifle Association.

Of all organizational leaches in America, it is the NRA that survives on the ever expanding pool of American blood. The blood of the truly innocent, the blood of our youth gone wild, the blood of drunken rage and calculated revenge and mindless mistake. All this blood gives thanks to the NRA for making cheap and easy guns readily available.

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But with the best “democracy” that money and guns can buy, the NRA is a heavyweight, along with Wal-Mart, the master of illegal labor, and Halliburton, the grand fakir of patriotic enterprise. The NRA is Mammon and politicians in state and federal government bow down before it.

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That’s when the NRA blackmail machine kicked into high gear, sending e-mails to Senators ordering them to vote against the very legislation that it had helped shape and warning them that they would face the NRA’s wrath come election time if they did not reverse course and vote down the bill the NRA had already told them to vote for. Naturally, most of the members of that august body complied. They shot the bill down with the ease of Dick Cheney and Antonin Scalia bagging ducks.

With all due respect to Winston Churchill: Never have so few controlled the fate of so many--an entire country, in fact. The next time you see a vehicle, most likely a pickup truck, with a bumper sticker declaring, “Proud to be an NRA member” or other such nonsense, remember that pride is one of the seven deadly sins and the Biblical injunction, “Pride cometh before the fall.” All these good Christians should read their Bibles more closely.
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down with the NRA

may they all get lead poisoning

What a disgraceful lot of scumbags the NRA is...

To reproduce some links from another thread...

"During his keynote address at the recent annual convention of the National Rifle Association (NRA) in Orlando, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush thanked members for helping to elect his brother president in 2000, CNN reported April 27.
"Were it not for your active involvement, it's safe to say my brother would not be president of the United States," Bush said.
He added that he and his brother both support the NRA's argument that the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment makes bearing arms an individual right with few restrictions.
"The sound of our guns is the sound of freedom," said Bush."

http://www.jointogether.org/gv/news/summaries/reader/0%2C2061%2C563037...

Funny, when Jebbo or any member of the Bush Crime Family opens his fat yap, most sane people don't hear "freedom" coming out.

What sort of freedom does the NRA mean? Why, the freedom to lynch people they don't like!

""Now, saying 'I'm with you guys on guns.' In any other time or place you'd be looking for a lynching mob." The crowd responded with "let's do it" and "I've got a rope."
-- The Grand Rapids Press, October 17, 2000 quoting NRA president Charlton Heston and describing audience reaction. "

http://www.algoredemocrats.com/04um/YaBB.pl?board=Declared&action=disp...

"Paul Blackman, NRA director of research, has written that inner-city violence, which kills predominantly young black males, is good for society. In his 1994 paper, "The Federal Factoid Factory on Firearms and Violence: A Review of CDC Research and Politics," Blackman dismisses public health researchers who have decried the $20-billion-a-year medical costs and loss of productivity costs of firearm violence, arguing that since young homicide victims are "frequently criminals themselves and/or drug addicts or users," he argues their deaths offer "net gains" to society.
In a startling statement, Jeff Cooper, NRA board member and columnist for the NRA's flagship publication, the American Rifleman, noted in 1991 "the consensus is that no more than five to ten people in a hundred who die by gunfire in Los Angeles are any loss to society. These people fight small wars amongst themselves. It would seem a valid social service to keep them well-supplied with ammunition." "

http://www.commondreams.org/news2000/1020-03.htm

And that humhole David Duke knows a kindred spirit when he sees one...

"I was astounded to read these courageous remarks by Charlton Heston.  I am thankful to hear a man with such high esteem say essentially the same things for which I have been reviled by the liberal media. His words should be reproduced and put into the hands of every American."

http://www.duke.org/writings/heston.html

That's priceless. Tell me, if the NRA is so all powerful that with a word they can get Senators to change their votes, why haven't they had those Senators introduce and pass some legislation to repeal some of the current federal firearms laws?

All they've got to do is make such laws and regulations impossible to enforce by destroying the funding of the Watchdog agencies.

Why repeal the law if all you have to do is never enforce it? That way, you can both poo-poo the law and pick on any Democrats foolish enough to be in a position of power and unable to make the laws stick.

Win/Win for the NRA.

Right. So why don't you go down to a gun store and ask if you can buy a machine gun without any paperwork, or any gun for that matter. Better yet, get a bunch of guns and just start selling them on a street corner somewhere. The gun laws aren't enforced, you have nothing to worry about. Hell, you'll probably turn a tidy profit!

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There is nowhere on Earth where you can walk up and BUY a machine gun, barring the Sook in Marakesh.

Straw man.

Try buying a handgun in the South if you think there are any valid gun laws. When I was stationed in the South, I could walk into a gun store and walk out with a handgun in less time than it takes for most credit cards to clear.

Go to Denver and buy 9mm parabellum in BULK. Colubine taught those yahoos NOTHING.

now you're talking about ammunition. It's hard to fire ammunition without a gun.

Why would ammunition be less available in Denver than it is anywhere else? You can buy the stuff in Walmart or any sporting goods store.

you gotta be 21 to buy pistol ammo.

What was "colubine" supposed to teach us? IIRC, there were a bunch of gun laws broken, and at least one of the people responsible went to jail for it...Of course, the shooters didn't, but they were dead...

I hate to break it to you, but there are background checks performed on all new firearms purchases in the United States. What do you know, they enforce those laws.

There are plenty of places where you can walk up and buy a machine gun in the world and you can get one a hell of a lot cheaper than you can here in the United States, where it's also legal only heavily regulated (hence the higher prices). Those laws are enforced too, surprisingly enough.

I'm not saying you can avoid all the current regulations on firearms, it is of course illegal and if you're caught you'll go to jail because they enforce those laws. You're the one who made the claim that the gun laws aren't enforced.

in most states anybody can walk into gun shows and buy guns without a background check...

eom

In any case, we were talking about enforcement of current laws. So if, as you claim, it's perfectly legal to walk into a gun show and buy a gun without a background check, it's hardly relevant to this conversation. You can't enforce a law that doesn't exist, after all.

Lets see, first gunshows card you to make sure you're 18+. Secondly, if you buy a gun from an FFL dealer at a show, they still need to do a background check. Here in central MN, there are two gunshows per year, despite being in an area with a large percentage of hunters and shooters. At these two gunshows, virtually all the guns sold there are sold by FFL holders who are busy on their cellphones calling in background checks. Yes, background checks from gunshows, gasp. The few old hunters they still allow to rent tables without FFL's are not permitted to sell much more than 5-10 guns total, and the guns they sell are mostly bolt-action deer rifles and common pump shotguns.

You make it sound like gunshows are a weekly event in most areas, but they are not. If someone wanted to get a hold of a gun to commit a crime, would they wait around months for a gunshow to occur, or simply buy a gun illegally on the street?

...gun shows ARE weekly events. It depends on how far you want to drive.

And some weekends in my neck of the woods, there are competing gun shows in Pueblo, Colorado Springs, and Denver - all within two hours' drive of each other.

then there's a gunshow within driving range every weekend. If you're only willing to drive 50 miles one way, odds are good that there isn't.

Enforce the laws on the books not write new ones is their meme. They say there are literally hundreds if not thousands of gun laws on the books and if they would just be enforced all our gun woes would disappear. NRA main talking point.

The NRA is all talk. Oh, they'll oppose new bills or compromise on them, but do you ever see them so much as advocate getting rid of current federal gun laws? Nope.

If the Supreme Court decided tomorrow that all the federal firearms legislation was unconstitutional the NRA would be screwed. Their whole selling point "protectors of the 2nd amendment, fighting the good fight against gun laws," would be gone. How would they get new memberships and donations? They'd basically be stuck with just training and magazine subscriptions.

Take Columbine, for example. There were half a dozen or more felonies committed by the shooters before they took one step onto the campus that day...If they were in jail for those felonies, then going and shooting up the school would have been much, much harder...

Not just fatalities but injuries as well. If we did indeed enforce every law would that end all gun related injuries and or death in America? Are our Safety regulations adequate?

That won't stop fatalities due to criminal activity, gun related or not.

in Central America, Asia, and Africa where you can do just that.

In order to buy a handgun in the South, you need to fill out a form 4473 and a background check form. The form is then called in, and the background check conducted. Only if it's approved can you buy the gun. That's considerably longer than it takes a credit card to clear.

Here's the process:

- Go to a dealer for that new handgun
- Show valid state ID
- Fill out form 4473 (lie on this and you can go to Club Fed)
- Wait for the NICS to approve/disapprove the purchase
- If approved, pay for the handgun.

So the purchase is recorded by name, address, driver's license number and social security number, make/model and serial number of the gun; the buyer is run through the National Instant Check System and if approved, the sale is completed. Unless you are buying from an individual, this is the process for any handgun, new or used NO EXCEPTIONS.

Total time ~20 mins if everyone is on the ball.

There is no mandatory background check for private sales. The so called 'gun show loophole' is crap. It is legal to transfer a firearm to an individual so long as the buyer is not prohibited from owning a firearm (in most states). Private sales can take place almost anywhere within a state, not just at gunshows. Interstate sales are regulated and must be transferred by a FFL, including all of the requisite background checks and paperwork.

too off topic here but I was just wondering about something. Around here some of the churches have an anti-abortion display with a yard full of little crosses. I wonder what would happen if I were to put up a display like that stating that this was a memorial to the vitims of gun violence in this country?

Would you include suicides? What about accidents?

But expect someone else to put up a display for the millions killed in genocide because of gun control. I'm not saying I agree with that, just that it is likely.

were not killed BECAUSE of gun control. Disarming the people is a necessary requirement for the genocide to take place effectively, but it is not the CAUSE of the genocide. It's just something that has to happen first.

take their own lives?

I'm not talking doctor-assisted suicide, just plain-old regular suicide, the person wanting to die kills themselves.

as long as they harm no one else in the process. But this is violence just the same.

as long as you say so.

who decide to kill themselves victims of gun violence. As far as I'm concerned they aren't victims at all. They made a choice. Maybe you could call them victims of choice.

if you commit suicide with pills, is that an act of violence?

If it isn't, then how is intentionally killing yourself with a gun an act of violence?

that far more people commit suicide with a gun than are accidentally shot or intentionally murdered, don't you?

You've heard the "you're 43 times more likely to be killed with a gun if there's a gun in the house", right? Almost ALL of that is from suicide, not accidental shooting or homicide.

I don't think you'd get too much sympathy.

Hey everybody, I'm part of a satanic cult! How absurd.

"Let’s get something clear. Few Americans want to inhibit legitimate hunters, make sporting difficult for them. Yet, for decades the NRA has created the paranoid impression that supporters of some gun control seek to deny every American the right to own a gun; that each and every effort to control guns is another step to deny the freedom of sportsmen."

I'll let Mr. T respond to that:

The least they could do with blatant propaganda is spell "leeches" correctly!! Geez!