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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:38 PM
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Faux News deperately, pathetically trying to hide Spanish anger
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 03:10 PM by rumguy
at their government for supporting the Iraq war...

They keep saying the crowds are showing solidarity with the victims. That is true, what they don't mention is the anger with their government for supporting the Iraq war.

Faux is not playing it straight, they are trying to hid the facts from the American people.

Ninety-percent of the Spanish people were against that war. And now they are pissed off...

CNN is mostly being fair in their coverage.

I hate Faux News.

ON EDIT: These are anti-government protests - they think the government was not initially honest about the fact that it was islamic extremists - wanted to hide that cuz of elections. They are also pissed cuz they see this as a result of Shrub's war...look at the signs - this is an anti-war, peace crowd...and they are pissed...the conservative party's credibility has been wounded...
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:44 PM
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1. Bingo
Goes right to what I posted in GD about an hour ago---if they start going after their government for supporting us and bringing this upon them, other nations will follow, and this is not good for Georgie. It goes right to want Dems have said: his baseless invasion of Iraq has made all of us less safe. No wonder Fox doesn't want to report it. I'll bet there's a cold sweat breaking out on Rove's back right now---and if stupid is still sober on one of his weekend getaways, maybe a trickle is beginning down his back.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:18 PM
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6. Did any one think it odd we saw Bush with flowers for Sp but....
we do not see him with flowers for Americans killed?If Sp. does not add this into their govt. aid to Bush I will eat my hat.Their terrorist have been pretty still for years.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:45 PM
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2. Well, you know it would do them no good
To show that there are places out there where the people get together en masse and protest the government, and it has any effect... That there are places where people pay attention to what their gov't is doing, etc. Proud of the citizens of Spain for doing it, and glad to hear CNN's doing an ok job covering it!
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:57 PM
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3. i'm just wondering...
watching these spaniards. what would the americans do? rally around the bush*?
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:04 PM
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4. About these elections...
Remember where Poppy Bush, Norm Schwarzkopf and Miami Mayor Alex Penelas were during the 2000 U.S. elections?

In Spain.

I wonder if it was a voting machine sales pitch.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:31 PM
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12. It was. They're voting on Diebold tommorrow.
n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:05 PM
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5. I agree with you.
Which raises a question: why do either of us even turn Fox on? At all? Because it's not like I'm going to flip through and be surprised to find accurate reporting on Fox.
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:15 PM
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19. H2O Man...
You're right to ask that question. If people would refuse to even watch Faux, their ratings would go right down. I think that the more people keep watching the whore media, the more the whore media will keep dishing out garbage.

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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:23 PM
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7. Being part of the "coalition of the willing" has become dangerous.
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 03:24 PM by revcarol
Witness the bombing in Bali at a hotel where almost exclusively Australians stayed...and now Spain with Aznar even hosting Bush/Blair while they plotted their dastardly deeds...

The war in Iraq made our coalition's people LESS SAFE.Al Qaeda is now getting all the recruits it wants.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:42 PM
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8. I also noticed
while MSNBC was interviewing a terrorism expert for an opinion on whether it was ETA, Al Qaeda, or a combination, Fox was saying it was "Moroccan extremists." So if you believe that what's on Fox is what Bushco wants you to believe ...
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shindig Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 03:52 PM
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9. yes, and last night
on Maranitty and Colmes the republican spokespeople were trying to counteract any of that kind of talk before it has a chance to start.

They were actually intimating that the Spain massacre "somehow" shows that bombing iraq was right.

They said that the world is a dangerous place, taking offensive action is necessary, preemption is right and that "somehow" Iraq was necessary and right.

Sadly, neither the host, nor the Kerry spokespeople thought to question any of it. I sat there wondering if anyone might have the guts to ask what bombing Iraq has to do with war on terrorism.

And just as importantly I wondered if anyone would go a step further and ask whether the spain bombings might possibly be the first blowback operation in response to iraq.



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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:01 PM
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10. When Chimp, Poodle boy, and Aznar
went to the islands to declare war, that was the event that sealed the fate of this unholy axis of evil. Chimp attempting to appear as FDR, Blair as Churchill, and Aznar as Stalin.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:23 PM
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11. Unbelievable....
Faux only one w/out weekend programming on. Expert comes on,
says new splinter groups have emerged, for instance Sunni's in Iraq with a new group I won't try to spell.

News lady says "Doesn't that prove Bush's contention that Iraq and AQ were in cahoots al along?"

And expert agrees. Having just said the groups were new.

I never thought I'd live long enough to see this type of shit.

Oh and while I'm typing, news lady asks "Do we need some sort of Marshall Plan for the entire Mideast?"

WTF?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:42 PM
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13. Pic
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 06:17 PM
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14. This is how Faux is spinning this. . .
watched this afternoon to see how they were covering it and once again, Faux is spinning in the total opposite direction of the way that CNN & MSNBC were covering the story once the arrests were made. According to Murdoch's trained monkeys, it would seem that Spain, as our great ally, was targeted by terrorists because of their support for the US and our Iraq War, which is, of course, why it is all the Democrats fault for opposing the war! And why, of course, John Kerry is not the right person to lead this country for the next four years--we need the "steady, intelligent, thoughtful Bush for another four wars. . uh. . years." And yes, the Democrats need to get our head out of the sand and support the president; we're not patriotic; we refuse to face reality; we can't be trusted with the country. . . . yada, yada, yada, yada (I'm sure you can guess the rest).
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 06:30 PM
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15. Post-Saddam GWB World Is SO SAFE?
Really that is weak, pathetic spin even by Faux News standards.

It won't work. They're all in a freefall. They are all going down. Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Faux, buh-bye, don't let the door slam on your way out you lying, crooked bastards.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:07 PM
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17. Did they really say intelligent and thoughtful?
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 07:10 PM by neebob
I can't see how anyone thinks that. Even my mom, who never watches anything but Fox, realizes he's swaggering jerk, and I doubt he'd be anywhere near the top of her list of smart people. She just likes him because he's against all the bad things like abortion and gayness and nakedness and sex and swearing on television and not wailing on bad guys that have been making her life a living hell since the fifties.

Intelligent and thoughtful? Damn, that's amazing. Steady? Sure, in the sense that he can be counted on to do the worst possible wrong thing in every situation.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:19 PM
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20. Hell, if anything
Ailes has dialed it down a bit. After 911, they were calling the doofus Churchillian.
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allalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 06:45 PM
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16. protests
I'm so proud of the Spanish people. Millions on the streets.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:09 PM
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18. How much longer can they hide this?
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 09:15 PM
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27. They can't hide it
It will be interesting to see the global response to the Iraqi invasion on March 20.

Just LOOK at how many people they have in the streets! What will it take for us to flood our streets. I hope to see all on you in the streets March 20. Stand up and be counted!!!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:23 PM
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21. Faux News makes me sick
Edited on Sat Mar-13-04 07:24 PM by doc03
I have noticed they don't even (pretend) to be fair and balanced any more. Geraldo used to be a liberal, now he is at Faux and is a cheerleader for the war in Iraq, what a whore. Then there's the Beltway Boys wasn't one of those assholes supposed to be a Democrat, I can't tell which one it is? Tony Snow fills in for Slush Limbaugh at times, how in the hell can he do an impartial news report. What if Dan Rather filled in for Al Frankin, the Repugs would go nuts. When they have discussions now they have like three Republicans all giving their opinion and no Democrats. If I go to the gym or to the mall it's always on all the TV's.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:28 PM
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22. I could have sworn
I heard the same spin regarding these protests on BBC World the other night (protesting to show solidarity for the victims, etc.).

They're mad as hell and they're not going to take it anymore.

Neither should we.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 09:21 PM
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28. FAUX News is a complete embarassment.
I was flipping back between FAUX and CNN who were both covering the protests. You could clearly read the signs in the background and yet FAUX continued to say that they were Spaniards just peacefully protesting the bombings. Quite Orwellian.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:29 PM
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23. millions walked for solidarity 5000 protested their Capital
its fair
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 07:43 PM
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24. that's too lame to even be 'spin'
it's more of a weak twitch than actual 'spin', sheesh.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 08:12 PM
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25. Just saw a guy on John Kasich's show on Faux
who said it looks like the election will be going to the Socialists now, instead of the presumed winners, Aznar's Populists. Wouldn't that contradict the Faux spin?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 08:14 PM
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26. Orwell is doing about 500 RPM in his grave about now...
Perhaps faster. :evilgrin:
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