how popular is * in your area?

i'd put it at a 3. i don't think he has ANY support outside of the outskirts of town where a lot of fundies live and some stupid misguided college Republicans.

...with maybe one or two exceptions.

in PA hates the dumbass -- except for the NRA members. But, I believe most of them are now wise to the dumbass. And even if they like their guns, they will not vote for him again.

..in Canada, and it seems evenly split over here.

Canadians who like *...

As Casey Kasem would say, "Ponderable, just f***ing ponderable."

eom

:o

I'm lonely and afraid over here in freeperville. Fortunately, my entire family is reformed repub, like me.

Hopeful signs abound. But Bush has a lot of work to do to become as popular this year as he was in 2000 in these parts

the chinks in the armor I see is that the people in my work environment (people who most would characterize as very well off) seem to have a real concern that shrubco will not be reselected, there seems to be a dawning realization of that possibility becoming fact.

Some of these people seem quite happy about the idea that shrubco might be keeping Osama in a freezer to pull out in October. Apparently the ethics involved doesn't trouble them a bit.

I have met like one other person here in my field (aside from my transplant friends) who is against shrubco.

Nacogdoches.

Here, the Shrub is a God.

I'm in Cambridge, MA.

His house is around the block from me. It has a silly little placque in front of it.

If that doesn"t say it all, then let me state that Ft. Benning is right down the road, and there's a Baptist church not far away that says on their message board "Real men marry women".

S^%theads.

I used to live in Columbus and ICK. I got out as fast as I could.

* is a God here, I am an endangered species

I'm in Richmond, and people practically worship him! Ugh!!

I work w/ a bunch of architects, who you'd think are free-thinking, creative types. I'm one of two people who are Dems in that place.

By the way, dand, my cousin, David Ashe (I posted this yesterday) is running for Congress against the two-term Republican incumbent. Hopefully, if everything goes as planned, he'll be running against him.

Hey, at least we have Governor Warner!?

liberals in VA, even my wife is Repub. I am very glad I am not alone, thanks for the message. Dan

Anytime, my friend. My husband and I are both liberal Dems (grew up in VA as well) whose families vote Democratic (even rarer,huh?)!

KERRY IN 2004
8 MONTHS AND BUSH IS DONE!

support for * is fading fast. Lots of fed employees around here who absolutely despise him--no surprise. A lot of the military families in my neighborhood are down on the Iraq War and disturbed by what's happening.

informed me over breakfast this morning that she is seriously considering casting her ballot in the other direction in November. You could have knocked me over with a feather.

Mom - if you're reading this - your daughters thank you, your grandchildren thank you, and welcome to the light!

Thats awesome!! Its exactly what needs to happen. His core base eroding away. I'm still puzzled why so many republicans are so loyal. He doesn't stand by the party platform at all.

everyone loves Bush and worships the ground he walks on. I go to school in Rochester, NY and it seems to be the opposite. Everyone hates that bastard and some of the rich people support him but nobody really loves him.

Remember when he singlehandedly pulled those guys out of the mine with his bare hands and bulging muscles? Also, who could forget how he bravely flew his fighter jet to the site of the crash of Flight 93 and spearheaded the rescue effort?

Oh wait, neither of those things happened. He just used those events for his own political gain. Of all places, I thought that Somerset would have figured this opportunist out by now.

and extremely Republican. I hate that place. I'm glad I go to school far away in Rochester, NY.

I ski at 7 Springs & Hidden Valley and I'm originally from Western PA. I also did a lot of work in the Somerset/Johnstown/Altoona/Clearfield/Centre County Region, so I know the mindset of the area. It's just so ironic that these areas are some of the most impoverished areas in the Eastern US and yet they still vote for the party that has done them the most damage. I guess the GOP just really appeals to the alcoholic, unemployed, gun totin', hypocritical, Bible thumpin', liberal hatin', gay bashin', redneck "conservatives" of central PA.

Look at the bright side. At least you guys still have an Italian Oven. That place was one of my favorite restaurants until they pulled out of Western PA.

and Windber somehow has greens for mayor and city council. There are Democrats in the greater area but the town of Somerset is a right-wing haven. They even gerrymandered us out of Murtha's (D) district and into Shuster's(R).

I have a lot of friends that still live in the Johnstown area. I went to college near there. I never realized how Democratic Cambria County was until I looked at the data posted below. As I mentioned before, I grew up in Western PA. I'm well aware of the gerrymandering. I was from Mascara's district. You know what happened with that.

Official Voter Registration Data, May 2003


COUNTY DEM REP LIB GRN OTHER ALL
ADAMS 16,484 28,802 250 84 6,104 51,724
ALLEGHENY 516,456 238,820 2,427 1,003 75,882 834,588
ARMSTRONG 19,943 19,340 127 22 3,563 42,995
BEAVER 70,680 33,793 241 40 9,725 114,479
BEDFORD 10,795 18,312 67 12 2,184 31,370
BERKS 91,080 89,185 1,555 311 25,501 207,632
BLAIR 25,303 42,172 290 92 7,393 75,250
BRADFORD 10,046 22,451 125 37 3,584 36,243
BUCKS 155,349 197,269 2,918 571 57,795 413,902
BUTLER 39,374 51,213 353 66 10,345 101,351
CAMBRIA 54,550 26,696 188 46 5,191 86,671
CAMERON 1,575 1,810 8 0 258 3,651
CARBON 16,476 13,585 137 39 3,310 33,547
CENTRE 26,861 34,193 476 272 10,672 72,474
CHESTER 83,357 157,780 1,669 369 44,471 287,946
CLARION 9,494 12,008 74 22 1,718 23,316
CLEARFIELD 21,262 21,549 124 22 3,904 46,861
CLINTON 9,419 10,153 68 33 1,994 21,667
COLUMBIA 16,978 16,752 127 53 4,462 38,372
CRAWFORD 21,680 28,743 150 79 4,420 55,072
CUMBERLAND 38,653 75,230 573 197 16,126 130,779
DAUPHIN 56,102 77,597 651 233 16,632 151,215
DELAWARE 111,144 211,502 349 0 35,388 358,383
ELK 10,536 7,517 36 27 1,797 19,913
ERIE 86,427 64,810 474 206 14,989 166,906
FAYETTE 61,208 19,757 240 27 5,052 86,284
FOREST 1,176 1,710 4 3 159 3,052
FRANKLIN 22,414 43,074 215 76 8,161 73,940
FULTON 3,248 4,681 26 2 551 8,508
GREENE 16,988 5,960 46 20 1,303 24,317
HUNTINGDON 9,355 16,163 71 49 2,628 28,266
INDIANA 22,080 21,712 158 75 5,103 49,128
JEFFERSON 10,924 14,308 69 11 2,027 27,339
JUNIATA 4,673 7,329 32 5 939 12,978
LACKAWANNA 93,112 44,386 323 179 8,282 146,282
LANCASTER 70,411 168,134 1,213 563 36,060 276,381
LAWRENCE 31,009 19,859 84 23 3,903 54,878
LEBANON 18,879 38,566 329 66 7,301 65,141
LEHIGH 78,101 74,902 969 239 23,558 177,769
LUZERNE 115,460 71,988 538 335 13,703 202,024
LYCOMING 23,068 34,845 208 108 6,084 64,313
MCKEAN 7,960 15,938 105 17 2,481 26,501
MERCER 36,686 31,073 185 65 7,258 75,267
MIFFLIN 9,033 13,939 74 16 1,979 25,041
MONROE 34,744 35,452 538 102 14,686 85,522
MONTGOMERY 184,008 254,792 2,944 582 64,751 507,077
MONTOUR 4,084 5,396 39 13 1,175 10,707
NORTHAMPTON 68,904 55,190 747 241 41,697 166,779
NORTHUMBERLAND 23,479 23,823 154 31 3,729 51,216
PERRY 6,620 15,904 0 17 2,599 25,140
PHILADELPHIA 688,885 161,796 2,520 872 57,822 911,895
PIKE 11,222 16,898 92 50 5,798 34,060
POTTER 3,642 7,278 28 14 865 11,827
SCHUYLKILL 34,098 45,880 238 53 6,839 87,108
SNYDER 4,473 12,680 47 28 1,612 18,840
SOMERSET 21,950 24,573 94 26 3,145 49,788
SULLIVAN 1,611 2,494 15 7 308 4,435
SUSQUEHANNA 8,107 15,132 98 44 2,271 25,652
TIOGA 7,272 16,657 78 27 2,099 26,133
UNION 5,281 11,646 69 54 2,368 19,418
VENANGO 12,391 17,716 112 12 2,911 33,142
WARREN 10,605 14,802 73 38 3,055 28,573
WASHINGTON 86,992 43,715 338 70 11,947 143,062
WAYNE 7,670 16,349 96 75 3,133 27,323
WESTMORELAND 138,258 79,493 513 139 21,047 239,450
WYOMING 5,922 11,087 72 11 1,705 18,797
YORK 81,387 124,008 1,340 376 31,010 238,121
PENNSYLVANIA 3,607,414 3,162,367 28,591 8,597 790,812 7,597,781

not far from Hawidazeburg. On a hot day yer ice cream gets melded.

Pennsylvania Church of God Headquarters and Camp Grounds (it's now located in Harrisburg). I know, because my mother used to drag me there every single summer. I absolutely hated it! It *always* rained in Somerset and the only thing black other than me and my family, was all the mud. I believe a lot of people from the Church of God settled there and never left and that may be part of the reason why there are so many Bush* supporters concentrated in that area.

eom

Talk about occupying hostile territory! How the hell is NYC going to deal with safely blockading the shrub from "first ammendment zones" when the entire city loathes him? I know the RNC debated using a cruise ship exclusively, but now it appears that shrub fancies himself fit to hit Madison Square Garden after all. Is this going to be 1968 revisited?

Just like the trade convention last year. Cops in helmets and plexiglas shields; riot gear, the works.

because he's "pro-life." I'd like to know how you can argue that someone is pro-life when he and his administration make lie after lie after lie about a country holding WMDs and continue to lie after the evidence overwhelmingly indicates otherwise. And then, the war you lied this country into has produced thousands of deaths and thousands of injuries to innocent civilians. And this administration just dismisses them as "collateral damage." And this administration won't acknowledge the military deaths and do everything in their power to keep any light from exposing the real truth about U.S. casualties.

I just can't understand it. And there's no sense in cramping your brain trying to change these people.

"Pro-life" is a bogus term. I hate that they've got everyone using it.

but the 5% that love him are VERY vocal & bumper stickered.

i guess they rely on LIBERAL TOLERANCE to allow their minority opinons to be expressed safely.

I'd say a 5 here. Its Texas, but Austin is not like the rest of Texas, particularly in the city like where I am. Of the Bush/Gore votes, Bush won Travis County by 52.9% to 47.1%. Since that time his popularity seem to have only dropped, judging from the people I've talk to here. I know realistically it won't happen, but few things would bring me more pleasure than if Bush were to lose Texas like Gore did Tennessee in 2000.

We are a rare breed in my part of Texas.

Someone from Austin, TX called into C-Span this morning and said the following:

"I have one thing to say to all you Republicans: 8 more months and you're done!"

LMAO!!

we need more of that down here in Texas

1.

I'm hard pressed to find anyone in my daily travels who has anything good to say about him.

I've seen ONE Bush bumper sticker in 4 years. We sent Barbara Lee to congress. Need I say more? :kick:

Jesus freaks in north half of Maine love him.

not NEARLY as much as anyone thinks. Not NEARLY as much as the media seems to think. And not NEARLY as much as the GOP and the bush-cheney campaign seems to think.

But SHHHHHHH!!!! KEEP A LID ON IT!

I want them to ignore Texas, assume it's in the bag. Meanwhile bush is hemorraghing supporters here. It's great.

Here we consider Gavin Newsom a conservative...

fortunately, many of the more-advanced politics courses have many that are discontened with the neocon/lib status quo

There's more Dems here than you'd imagine, but it's not as Republican as it is down South or in HB/Westminster. Still, we have a long way to go here in Irvine. So many selfish, greedy pukes. (But at least we have a Democrat as a mayor...although more of a DINO nowadays.)

In Costa Mesa, I'd give Bush a 6.

And in Santa Ana, I'd say Bush has very few fans. !! :)

I have one sister in Fountain Valley (works in Santa Ana), and another (works in Irvine) -- and my father -- in Huntington Beach and they all hate *.

but she's in a gerrymandered Hispanic majority district.

I have only seen one Bush/Cheney 2004 bumper sticker and that was on an old station wagon with bullet holes decorating the sides and back, and a "Rush was right" bumper sticker on the tail, so I really don't know.
They are dumb as sticks here, so I expect they will do whatever Faux or their fake christian GOP churches tell them to do.

They go ORGASMIC over Bush here. It voted something like 85% for him.

split. 50/50 I think.

Home of Katherine Harris :mad:

I'd say its probably about 60-40 here, 60 being the ones who would follow Bush off a cliff, 40 being the younger population, and the New College contingent..

Im heavily involved in churchwork and 4H so basically everyone I see is a Bush lover....they dont really know the issues though...most are the type that see Bush praying on TV or hear his stance on abortion and then go out and plaster Bush-Cheney stickers all over their cars....I try to convert as many as I can...

I am trying to move from Freeperville Raleigh to possibly Sarasota.
Please don't tell me I will get more billy bobs with their stepford wives.
Where in Florida can I get away from this?

going to church with so many Bush lovers? I am in an extremely conservative Arkansas town and I can't even stomach going to church like I used to 'cause of the bias and I really want to try but they just get under my skin!

Just wondering!?!

Unforunately, I work for a defense contractor, and there are a lot of gung-ho freeper types. But every day, I'm meeting new liberals even there.

I love Old Town, go there once a week or so for drinks & eats. Not especially GOP-friendly, and all the fed employees I know in our area hate Bush's guts. The army of defense contractors, on the other hand, is a different story, they're a lot more freeper. I actually heard one today (I'm in DC) say that he was cancelling his trip to Spain....

but I don't think they love him...

they'll vote fur em cause he's pro gun and against abortion

Most everyone south of point of the mountain thinks Bush is playing the "John the Baptist" role for the second comming. But then the only people I converse with are college students... oh, the irony.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

your typical white born-again-Christian male types. But they are sheepish about it mostly; keep it private.

Many many folks are fed up with junior.

Of course family connections, business connections don't die easy.

southeastern Arizona(Home of the morans),the morons are on the fence,but the morans are Bush 100%.

I haven't seen the converts that are being reported here. My konservative co-workers worship chimpy, but he's lost the vote of a least one moderate repug that I know. My dad and brother are both freeper-type repugs. It will be a cold day in hell before they turn.

Everyone I have talked to anyway - ranges from the very rich to taxicab drivers.

Even more so now, after the September 11th ads. We were here. He was AWOL. :mad: :grr: :mad: :grr:

you have to look pretty hard to find anybody who doesn't hate him.

but a lot more mixed-bag Democratic signs, for Clark, Kerry, many for Dean and LOTS for Kucinich. One of the teachers at school has a bumper sticker on her car that says "Let's not elect him in 2004 either."

n/t

We've got more Green party members here than Republicans. It's a wonderfully liberal place to be.

Each time I go out wearing my "Bush for Ex-President" shirt, I get at least two or three "Right on!" comments.

thid in my county. Don't ask.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x886933

Probably 70% pro-*, but we do have a vocal progressive community.

Most of the fundies did not arrive here until the Pipeline construction began - and imported so many pipeline workers from Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana..........who brought their preachers with them.

We have a RABID fundy community, but they are small and, I hope, getting smaller. Seems the fundies can't quite cope with the weather when their neighbors despise them so............

Right here, pretty much everyone despises the guy.

I went to the Gwinett Hockey game tonight with a bunch of locals. How depressing...

There's a few who like him and most people are right of me, but still left of center.

Aside from the few Texans currently here for military, school, or political purposes, and some of the fundies in PG County (yes, the Dem "stronghold" that seems to be shifting to the right), you won't find too many supporters around here.

Of course with this being an area where almost everyone has SOME connection to the govt in their careers, most people aren't very vocal about their beliefs. However, in comfortable surroundings, most people around here are VERY outspoken about *. I've also actually noticed quite a few bumper stickers in the work parking lot lately including: Clark for President, Kerry, Attack Iraq? No, and one of those "Jesus fish" with rocket wings and the word SCIENCE instead of Jesus or IXOYE or Ichthus or Fish or Believe or whatever the fundy symbol du jour is.

How 'bout a Stern avatar?

There are a lot more Democrats here in Laguna Niguel than I was lead to believe...:)

in south county, towards the coast, people loathe him. Up north they're a bunch of tax hating ranchers, so it's pretty split.

Granted you see the stupid bumper sticker from time to time, but I never talk to anybody who isn't at least having grave doubts about him.

Most people think he's an idiot.

In France, and in Europe, we have to search under the carpets for finding a Bush supporter.... And we are not sure to do.

We hate Bush since his first day "reign" and we don't understand why so many American still want to vote for him !

here but now and then I find some who hate chimp as much as I do, todday I actually saw two cars with Kerry stickers on them. :-)

and even here everyone loathes the man. Must be the water, people here just hate the GOP. Thank God I live here.

Where I am from in the states used to be about a 9, but his popularity has been sinking like a stone since the war started, and more and more as the lies emerged.

:thumbsup: ;)
"only 15 % support re-(S)election of B*sh"

I tallied up the votes and numbers, and found the average is about 4.88. the midpoint would be 5.5, so that's pretty close to his national approval ratings.

I can count at least three other people in my city who think he's a loon.

Most people I talk to can't stand him. Recent polls here in Barnstable County (Mass) showed Kerry was preferred by a 2 to 1 margin. And this is one of the more conservative parts of the state.

I'll let you figure it out :)

A lot of brainwashed military/ex military/ military dependants that think that our brave and fearless leader is doing an outstanding job at protecting us from the terraists.
I get in heated arguments all the time at work and out on the streets about how bu$h is screwing up the nation, exposing his lies and facist agenda. Sadly these people put their fingers in their ears and go "La, La, La, La". They cant and wont do any research and tell me that I shouldnt do so much research and trust bu$h and the US of A.

I live in one of the only counties (only 2 or 3 in the state) which went to Gore. Most people dislike the man. Our only local newspaper "spews forth lots of freeper thought". I can barely stand it.

By the way if you wanna help there's a question they're asking us to respond to on *'s use of 911 ads if you will vote at


I'd like to see them come up with a reason for the #'s not going their way!

http://www.uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/img.php?year=2000&st=NC&type=map

Gore's in red, * is in blue. I figured there was no way it could be that small since you probably have a lot of black majority counties.

It's a military area, but I've only seen one Bush sign, and no bumperstickers. It went for Gore by a 6% margin in 2000, so I assume that it will go Dem again this year.

Enough Wealthy People, Retired Military and Beltway Bandits that love the tax cutting, free spending weasel to get him to around 35-40% support. However, I would have to say a solid 60% of the people here think he's stupid and mean spirited. He has also been rotten to Government Employees.

Folks still live in G'burg. Joe Gibbs back as Skins coach. I love Maryland. Go to Bethesda Crab House, enjoy a couple dozen and let me know how it was.

Yay. She has voted for some Dems (Clinton x 2 I think).

We are talking negative numbers here.

PS. BErlin, Germany

Gore carried my county (Seattle area) by over twenty points last time; Bush has no chance here this fall.

No longer personally know of anyone that still defends the slimey, stupid fuck!!