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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:06 AM
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When there's a draft will you serve President Bush?
Will YOU serve as a warrior in President Bush's War on Terror? Will YOU serve your flag, and your country and your government? When conscription returns after President Bush is reelected will you proudly march off to fight wherever and whenever he tells you to go? Will you participate in the takeover of North Korea, Cuba, Iran and Syria during a second Bush term?

Hmmmm...?
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:08 AM
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1. Not
A fuckin chance!!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:14 AM
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5. Um, no you would not have to go
You are a human being, with free will. No one, no government can take that away from you. Yes, you might have to go to jail to stand up for your beliefs, but they can't make you fight. And in the end, they don't want an angry, bitter soldier on the front lines with an M-16 in his hands.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:21 AM
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8. Obviously, people did not give a
flying fuck if Clinton asked for a deferment so he could go away and be a Rhodes scholar, and come back to register for the draft later, as he did. Obviously, he was elected twice, right? He wasn't awol, and he did not lie about what he did in terms of the draft.

Go if you are drafted, thank you.

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liberal72 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:12 AM
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3. Screw that.
I'll support my country by burning my draft card and yell the truth. ONLY by doing this will we save this country.
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:14 AM
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4. Welcome State Mate!!
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liberal72 Donating Member (405 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:15 AM
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6. Thanks.
Thanks for the welcome.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:19 AM
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7. Been there, done that.
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 12:20 AM by tjwash
Already joined, served, and did my duty. Instead of a draft, they should take all these neo-con, my country right or wrong, flag waving, jingo spouting, loud mouths, send them to basic, and ship them off to the war of the month. Of course they would all have to get dragged out sobbing from under there beds where they will be hiding, when it's put your money were your mouth has been time.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:21 AM
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9. I may fight for Kerry
or for America, but I will NEVER fight for Bush's buddies to get rich!
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:22 AM
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10. I'm 17. I would go to jail.
Or military prison, or whatever.

I would file for CO status first.

P.s. Where do you go for not submitting to conscription?
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:27 AM
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11. Tell em your gay
That will stop them in a heartbeat.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:31 AM
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13. I doubt it'd work
I think they'd take gays in a draft.
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:33 AM
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14. Not a Chance
Though you may have to prove it.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 01:26 AM
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19. How?
Blow the draft board? :P
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:00 AM
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23. photos,
an active and current gay.com or similar profile, friends and family who will attest to it, etc. But if the draft comes, you may end up having to prove you actually perform homosexual acts. Photos or video of the same may well be required.

I wouldn't put it past them.
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Donating Member ( posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:38 AM
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26. Where do C.O.' s go?
Where you go depends on how hard case the times are or your local draft board and also has to do with your economic status sometimes.
In WWII, some c.o's ended up on the rock pile in federal pen, some working in hospitals.
In Vietnam most ended up doing some form of alternative service. The ones that left the country probably could have done alternative service also if they had gone through the bureuacracy.

My personal opinion is that it is important to file and to go through the bureaucracy because this is a stronger resistance to the draft. Leaving the country isn't really resistance in my view, although it does express an opinion.



For more information on this look at these sites.

http://www.warresisters.org/

http://www.objector.org/
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jackaroo Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:31 AM
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12. Conscription?
I'm new to this page, and evidently I've missed the news about Bush reinstating the draft. Can you point me to where I can get info about this? I certainly don't want to be drafted!
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specter Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:34 AM
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15. Its a what if
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jmags Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:43 AM
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16. I'd like to see all College Republicans fill up the needs first
Then a few decades from now we could possibly hear a Democratic Speaker of the House say, "I wanted to enlist in the draft to serve our country by promoting Bush's endless warfare, but all those College Republicans volunteered ahead of me."
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:50 AM
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17. Your next soldiers in the war on terror


Indiana University College Republicans
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 12:52 AM
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18. President Bush left office on January 21, 1993.
n/t
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smcmike Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 01:26 AM
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20. Does anyone else think
That it might be a good idea in some ways to have mandatory service for all young people (not necessarily military). I think it might change the way the military is run, change the publics relationship with the military, keep us out of some wars, hopefully, and prevent the disenfranchisement of our youth. I mean, i guess i support these things conceptually, I certainly don't want to be sent to Iraq to fight a war I don't believe in, but the concept of a citizen, as opposed to proffesional, military appeals to me.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 01:33 AM
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21. will you?
I already did my time. Hey, it'll give you a chance to shoot your gun, right?

RC
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 01:56 AM
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22. I'm going to repeat the words in another post,
"Over my dead body will they take my son".

We should defend our country if it's being threatened. The war in Iraq was not a threat to our national security.

If it's Bush's war, it's a war about oil and corporate interests. It's not worth dying for Quarterly Profit and Loss statements.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 04:02 AM
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24. I will serve long enough
So I can get my weapon...

And then, I can't say anything else because I don't want to discredit or hurt DU in any way.

But yeah.
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historian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:26 AM
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25. sons passport up to date
he has dual citizenship -england and here - passports are up to date - the moment our mongol in chief begins drafting off he goes to europe - screw bush
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