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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:09 PM
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is there ANY chance that the FL Rally will backfire for * ?
Edited on Sat Mar-20-04 03:18 PM by nostamj
like the Wellstone Memorial?

it should. it should be exposed for the propaganist filth that it was but... the odds are bad.

and he tells us, once again, that God talks to him and he listens

the jingoistic, nazi-esque crowds were chilling....

on edit: the kerry/dallas thing was bogus. sorry to jump the transcript.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:14 PM
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1. the Kerry warning is not true...but is it true he says god talks to him?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:21 PM
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2. yes
he's said it often and again today...

something about 'standing in the shadows of the WTC, God told me not to let him down'

(shadows of the WTC???)
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:21 PM
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3. any link for this - nt
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:25 PM
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6. well, it's not in the official transcript
just checked it.

many DUers (and Freepers) claim to have heard it though

:shrug: it was no less a disgusting performance
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:28 PM
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7. here's how his website has it...
"None of us will ever forget that week when one era ended and another began. On September the 14th, 2001, I stood in the ruins of the Twin Towers. I'll never forget that day. One guy pointed at me and said, "Don't let me down." Workers in hard hats were shouting, "Whatever it takes!" And as we all did that day, these men and women searching through the rubble took it personally. I took it personally. I have a responsibility that goes on. I will never relent in bringing justice to our enemies. I will defend the security of America, whatever it takes. (Applause.)"

http://www.georgewbush.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=2346

If his website is cleaning up his speeches, that would be a major scandal...anyone out there have this thing recorded...
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:30 PM
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8. Watch for the replay on C-SPAN.......
......It wouldn't be the first time they 'corrected' what Bush* 'meant' to say! :evilgrin:
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:32 PM
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9. We've got to find out what is the truth here...nt
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dakota_democrat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:38 PM
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11. Hate to rain on your potential parades...
but the transcript has it right, that's what I heard when I watched the end of it.

It's too bad, though, that would've been great to throw at the * administration.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:42 PM
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14. I find it odd that even Freepers are reporting that they heard it...
at least that's what some have said on this board today...
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:01 PM
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19. I tried to find those freeper accounts and could not - nt
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:07 PM
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21. Thanks..i was wondering about that...
...if he had said it, and the transcript was sanitized it would have been a real blow, true...but i think they are sharper than that.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 06:07 PM
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27. It is on C-span now.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:46 PM
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26. I watched it live ... God told him ... I heard it
It really caught my attention. Bush kept right on with his spiel, didn't miss a beat.
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dakota_democrat Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:23 PM
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4. I'm glad to see that someone other than me...
thought it seemed like something out of Hitler's rallies. Wait, is that something to be glad about?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:25 PM
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5. No. We do not control the media.
The Wellstone "backfire" was a 100% media hoax.

We dont have the resources to create media hoaxes.

Of course, Kerry could "accidently" say somthing "outrageous" into his mike and get some comparable coverage...Kerry can "fool" the media, but he cant tell it what to do like Rove can.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:32 PM
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10. I think it only shows how out of touch
they are, the economy doing good! right, for those in wall street!, then he brags about job creation, lol, that 1 in itself makes me laugh!

A meaningful recovery should create the amount he stated in 45 days but i guess his glossed over crowd don't care
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:39 PM
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12. DEMS will have to win this one with FACTS, not propaganda...
...propaganda is way to expensive. Only the Pukes can afford positive media coverage.

No amount of media coverage will fill up people's empty wallets OR get them their jobs or dead sons back...

WE have to help. WE have to "Become our own media" by spreading the word. It CAN be done...
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:42 PM
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No, we don't control the media BUT
WE - collectively - can still get the Truth out there.....imagine teeny tiny Freeper heads exploding across America if they got their hands in THIS....http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1259299">Keeping the pressure ON!


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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:39 PM
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13. Some might see what W described as not the reality they live...
and see around them. Some might have seen the rally as over the top. Things have tended to backfire for the Bushies lately. We can only hope --
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:43 PM
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15. it'll backfire for Swann hopefully
Edited on Sat Mar-20-04 03:46 PM by TheWebHead


and he's on the Heinz board of directors:
http://www.heinz.com/jsp/dirbio_swann.jsp


http://www.fundrace.org/neighbors.php?type=name&lname=swann&fname=lynn&search=Search+by+Name

LYNN CURTIS SWANN
SELF-EMPLOYED
George W. Bush
$2,000
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:51 PM
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16. So he's a Repuke?
Ewwww
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 03:54 PM
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17. he got a special call-out by *
at the Nuremberg Party Day rally today...
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:02 PM
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20. thanks
I am happy to see that website. Just made that my $500 to Edwards and $250 (to date) to Kerry is not on there. How can that be?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 07:16 PM
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29. Ah man, I love Lynn Swann
being raised in Pittsburgh, he was one of my football heroes. Oh well, I guess he got hit a few too many times.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 04:51 PM
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18. answer please
why is *'s campaign rally speech up on the White House web site?
I thought the WH site was for representing both parties of government.......it should be neutral ground and not involve election rallies.am I just being picky?though It really bothers me....
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:09 PM
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22. Dude...Good Catch!
Campaign speeches on "official" govt sites.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:29 PM
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23. it is wrong then
am I right on that part.I don't remember if Clinton had his campaign speechs up or if Gore did in 2000.does anyone know?
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:37 PM
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24. huh? the speech is on www.georgewbush.com
but I don't see it on www.whitehouse.org

:shrug:
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 05:42 PM
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25. heres the link
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 06:37 PM
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28. The transcript is right. I listened to the damn thing.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 07:27 PM
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30. well, overeactions on that line
but...

the entire event was still hideous.

I have the transcript and hope to have time to parse out the usual lies.

the insipid chimp encouraged and relished the BOOING. the HATE.

when Kerry supporters booed, Kerry stopped them.

only card-carrying republicans were ALLOWED near this event.

at a Kerry appearance, a republican was allowed in and allowed to ask a question. Kerry responded.

bush events do not ALLOW for such a possibility.

this was a terrifying pagent. adoration of the king/savior.

to question this POS is an act of treason
to question this POS is an act of blasphemy

that is the message.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-20-04 09:21 PM
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31. it was disgusting where he insinuated the Dems hated the military
Edited on Sat Mar-20-04 09:26 PM by SpikeTrees
I was doing paperwork while it was on. I don't recall the exact quote exactly. Bush was trying to implant another lie with his evil messaging machine.

edit: I found it

When Dick Cheney and I came to Washington, we found a military that was underfunded and underappreciated. So we gave our military the resources and respect they deserve. (Applause.) Today, no one can question the skill and the strength and the spirit of the United States military. (Applause.)

Comment: too bad the ones returning from Iraq are not going to vote for you this time. ha ha ha
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