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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:39 AM
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Scott McClellan is not human...
I am sitting here watching a replay of todays "News Conference", and am noticing things I didn't when it was live. For starters, I cannot believe that this man can stand there and lie so openly, and not just drop over dead. The next thing that I find interesting, is that he is really under some serious scrutiny by a press corps with a spine, and he does not sweat. He also shows no emotion; I mean none.

There lies the crux of my argument. He is getting beat up pretty badly. Suzanne Malveaux is crushing him, and he doesn't break one bead of sweat, not one. Is his skin some kind of polymer?

I can tell his mouth is dry, and he is robotic in the way he speaks. It is the same old drivel that has been so well rehearsed, and is not going over well with this press corps. The emotionless responses from McClellan are far from anything I've ever seen that can be construed as truth.

This whole thing about Clarke is not going to go away. It is going to blast through this administration like lightning, and there will be no running away and blaming another entity. McClellan will be put in storage, and kept lightly oiled until the next GOP admin, somewhere around 2090, comes into power. Then his batteries will be replaced, and he will be booted up with the new presidents name, and just keep the old CD running.

If there is one good thing about watching this for the second time today, it is that I am seeing the faces of the reporters in a different light, as I don't have to pay attention to the rhetoric. these people are ticked off. They will frame the debate in the coming weeks and months. I am witnessing the crumbling of the regime before my eyes, and McClellan is digging away every time he speaks.

I am happy tonight; there is hope that the future is not as bleak as I thought just 6 months ago.

Sleep well my fellow DUers, the House of Card is coming down.

:)



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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:40 AM
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1. Read any Leo Strauss lately?


Lying is the cornerstone of government to these people.

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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:47 AM
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6. Teacher of Machiavelli? (spelling?)
Seems I read recently that several of Bush's camp were students of Leo Strauss. Yep, lie; the ends justify the means? What a VILE bunch of human trash this administration is!
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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:34 AM
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29. and it is the moral thing to do.
In their eyes they are doing NOTHING wrong when they lie like this.

In fact, lying is the moral thing to do for them.

So they feel no remorse, in fact, lying makes them feel morally superior.

If you don't believe you're doing anything wrong, if on the contrary you believe you are doing something very moral, you will of course not be nervous, sweating, etc.

These people are dangerous.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:42 AM
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2. I am concerned about the continued idiocy of some of the 'reporters'
however; one slug that was questioning him didn't even seem to know that Clarke was a Republican; kept calling it a 'partisan' attack and I think even called Clarke a 'member of the opposition...' or something similar...
Do any of these people have ANY credentials beyond licking Chimpy's ass???
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:36 AM
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22. I often wonder if there are any "real" journalists left?
The entire object of journalism is to get tot the truth, regardlewss of ones political stance. Noe, we have 'talking heads' that do little more than push thier own views to the point of nausea. Journalism has never been a pristine area, but usually, the truth snuck through.

Today, it is all about 'presentation'; hence all of the overly made up pretty faces of women and jovial clueless men. It is a sad state of affairs.

:(
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:03 AM
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32. I Share Your Concern!
This weekend on CNNs "In the Money" they discuussed (kind of) the fluff that is todays "news". Basically they said that news is now pure entertainment, (not even infotainment) and if people wanted to find out the substance of political policy, well, they'd just have to go and find it themselves - because they sure as hell won't report it. It was really a mea culpa. Unfortunately, this show is considered as "cnnfn" and they don't post free transcripts.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:44 AM
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3. I hope you're right!
I've seen the press like this before, & then another issue comes along, & then it's gone.

They have very short attention spans, & the White House will pull something to change the subject.

Maybe a terror alert!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:46 AM
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4. His speech is definitely robotic,
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 12:47 AM by Kool Kitty
I'll give you that. I just love the way he never goes off point-no matter what the question, he repeats the same talking points OVER and OVER and OVER again until I want to reach through the screen and slap him. He's like a scratched record with the needle stuck. The same bullshit over and over. Nothing penetrates, NOTHING. Does he even blink? I haven't noticed. And I absolutely hate the way he pronounces some words, the one that makes me scream out loud is his pronounciation of important. He says em-pour-dent. It's im-por-tant, IM-POR-TANT, you friggin' android! :argh: Sorry, he is repulsive. You learn nothing from these briefings, why do they even bother?

I hope you're right about the house of cards coming down. I feel kinda optomistic my own self.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:50 AM
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ROFLMAO.......LOL LOL LOL IM-POR-TANT lol lol
Stop, I'm hysterical. I have to go to sleep soon.....I'll be laughing all night. lol
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:55 AM
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13. Oh my God, he drives me nuts. NUTS.
It's a scream fest here every time he's on. I can't take it. That boring monotone, those mispronounciations, the endless repetition of the talking points, no real answers..AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:12 PM
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40. 'I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can' t let you do that' 2001 Space Odyssey
heheheheheheeh
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:03 AM
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17. I can't quite place the accent...
must have something to do with a cross between Northern TX and inbred.

Does anyone know where this guy was maunfactured?

:evilgrin:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:45 AM
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31. Unfortunately, he's from Texas.
His momma is Carole Keeton McClellan Rylander Strayhorn Cougar Mellencamp, our esteemed Comptroller of Public Accounts and former Mayor of Austin.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:41 AM
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46. DON'T GET ME STARTED KK
saying AIR instead of OUR
saying WINDA instead of WINDOW
FOE-ARD instead of FORWARD
ERRA instead of ERROR
TERRA instead of TERROR
ARE instead of OR
RESTRUNT instead of RESTAURANT
THANK instead of THINK

I could go on and on and on . . .
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:47 AM
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5. He seems to look just like the Ohio freeway sniper.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:48 AM
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7. Dang, he does resemble him.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:00 AM
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15. LOL...
He sure does!

:scared:

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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:22 AM
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21. just noticed tonight,kept seeing McCoy and couldn't remember who it is
he reminds me of then saw McLellan tonight
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:14 AM
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33. Scary



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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:25 AM
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44. Egselent.Too bad noone dropped a dime on him somewhere before
they caught the real killer.Coulda been sweet.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:49 AM
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8. "It's a robot! Ash is a goddam robot!"
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 12:56 AM by Mayberry Machiavelli
"I admire its... purity."
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:50 AM
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9. He is one singularly unappealing mouthbreathing mofo. EOM
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:56 AM
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14. I have always been repulsed by Scott. I thought he was a
Stepford child when he first took the post as spokesman. Having said that, I thought, in his own tightass way, he was ready to go into meltdown. Having had to watch him so often, I begin to notice the nuances of his behavior. He definately was wound up tighter than a watch spring. I'll bet he went off stage and went berserk to let off steam. lol
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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:50 AM
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10. If you look very closely...
sometimes you can see the wires peeking over his shirt collar.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:51 AM
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11. He has to suppress ordinary Human emotion for
the lies and distortions he daily espouses. He is a worm, a larvae, a pupa and the monster underneath is painfully obvious.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:53 AM
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12. Thanks I will! Goodnight and sweet dreams to all.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:02 AM
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16. do you realize
he talks exactly like bush? is he the guy who talks into georgie`s earpiece???
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:04 AM
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18. I *LOVE* Scott McClellan.
Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 01:07 AM by Cat Atomic
He's the worst White House Press Secretary ever.

He's a horrible liar, and he's not intimidating at all. Zero personality. I want to take his lunch money and push him into a mud puddle every time I see him, and I'm not even a bully.

He's also a bad speaker who makes the same hand gesture over and over (the "little weiner" gesture), and when he hits his talking points, it's obvious. He's simply not smooth.

Ari Fleischer was an incredible Press Secretary. I despise the policies he helped to sell, but I must give credit where credit is due. Fleischer knew when to be smug and he knew how to throw his weight around. He was an excellent liar, and he had a certain charisma. Fleischer owned the room.

McClellan has none of those qualities.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:17 AM
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20. Ari was smart enough to know when to bail while he still had some
marketability.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-04 01:35 AM
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45. And he did have a personality.
Okay, it was a bad one, but a personality, nonetheless.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:41 AM
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30. LOL! Take His Lunch Money! Friggin' Priceless!
WEDGIE!!!!!
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:19 AM
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35. Did anyone notice?
That all of the rest of the WH mouthpieces used, verbatim, the exact same talking points that McClellan rolled out in the press conference? Are they not able to used their own words? Pathetic!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 01:16 AM
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19. Yo, y'all!
Peace out!
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 08:43 AM
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23. Here's an article on our dear Scotty...
SCOTT MCCLELLAN, BAD LIAR

McClellan's ineptitude is made all the more noticeable by the contrast it poses with Ari Fleischer, his syrup-tongued predecessor. Fleischer could spin elaborate webs of obfuscation, leaving the press corps mystified and docile, albeit somewhat resentful as well. Every sentence he uttered came out in the same bored affectation. The most outrageous lie sounded, in his telling, like a truism so obvious it barely deserved mentioning. Most people find such behavior deeply unnatural.

http://www.tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20040329&s=chait032904
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chelaque liberal Donating Member (981 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:00 AM
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24. From The New Republic, no less
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:01 AM
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25. Has Comrade Squealer ever claimed to be human? I don't think so.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:03 AM
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26. Pillsbury Dough Boy with less personality.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:08 AM
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27. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out
someday that the Press Corp. has been bugged, wiretapped, bought off, coerced to be "patriotic", told to shut up, etc. by the Bush fascists. The Bushies know before the questions are asked what they are going to be. Notice Helen Thomas was moved to the rear.

I think this based on all the other shit they have been doing. They've bugged the UN, and gotten into Dem computer files for starters. They are the most despicable reptilian slime that has ever been in the White House.
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i_c_a_White_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 09:30 AM
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28. Scott is a Robot
they wind up and send out to air all the misinformation of the day. He seemed to be sweating up a storm sorta like "bobble head" Condi did all through the day..
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easyreader Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:17 AM
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34. I knew Scott in College
We had some friends in common and he was actually a pretty nice, non-dogmatic guy. His mom was the Rail Road Commisioner of Texas (and still does something, but I'm not sure what) and pretty connected politically with the worshipers of Ganesh.

I saw him a few years ago in Austin, TX and I was astounded by how different he looked. His eyes were red/yellow and glassy, like a lot of other members of Bush's cabinet and he seemed very robotic and uber-formal. Kind of creeped me out.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:20 AM
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36. Ganesh?
Hindu? For real?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 12:51 PM
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37. If I am not mistaken, the reference is to the elephant god (the GOP)
am I right??
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 02:38 PM
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38. Hi easyreader!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 03:03 PM
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39. Yo Rasp, good thread man, The House of Shrub is on its way down
The Demo Team is the Dem Team of counter spin. Their BS is not working as well as they desire. They have no choice but to use deception and distraction cause thats all they got. But the People are tired and fed up with a lolo gov't that only feeds one way, to those on the TOP.

The Pubs are in a GET UM BY FOOLING THEM Level.... thats all they have and while it worked in the past...... no more. People want a lot more than Security and a Strong Defense. They want Wisdom and a better life.

This time, the Pubs have blown it. Bush is not coachable; he goes off the track and comes off as his true self, a LOLO. He is in no way a wise person. A Dufus of the Worst Kind for sure.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:15 PM
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41. Dufus of the Worst Kind
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:42 PM
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42. EEEwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwuuuuu
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-23-04 10:47 PM
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43. nope he's a lizard
nope he's a lizard :evilgrin:

Is his skin some kind of polymer ?
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