OK: I'm already tired of "stovepipe" - Democratic Underground

Richardo

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Tue Mar-23-04 04:07 PM
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OK: I'm already tired of "stovepipe"

Edited on Tue Mar-23-04 04:08 PM by Richardo

Enough already...I've heard that term at least two dozen times today - 10 of them from Rumsferatu in the last 10 minutes.

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mac56

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Tue Mar-23-04 04:31 PM
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1. What does it mean, exactly?

Never heard the phrase before today.

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Richardo

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Tue Mar-23-04 05:00 PM
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4. I think its the new "silo"

Everybody working in their own area and unaware or not communicating with other organizations.

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NewYorkerfromMass

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Tue Mar-23-04 05:02 PM
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5. It means circumnavigating proper communication channels

Seymour Hersh used it as the title of a NewYorker article last fall.
They created 'stovepipes' to get information back to the president, in order to build up their intelligence in a way that painted the picture to their liking- as in: Saddam = al Qaeda = 9/11.

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Junkdrawer

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Tue Mar-23-04 05:05 PM
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6. Refers to a direct conduit from raw intelligence to decision makers,,,

bypassing the career middlemen. It was also a famous Seymour M. Hersh article.

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Richardo

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Tue Mar-23-04 05:28 PM
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9. Ah

so it's nothing like "silo".

BTW I like "sewerpipe" better. :thumbsup:

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Mattforclark

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Tue Mar-23-04 04:32 PM
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2. I'm tired of actionable intelligence...

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Az_lefty

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Tue Mar-23-04 04:55 PM
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3. I got real tired of "Evil Doer"

sounded childish.

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socratesone

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Tue Mar-23-04 05:14 PM
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7. As long as we're going to be retiring some terms...

How about:

"Weapons of mass destruction"
"liberal bias"
"axis of evil"
and
"pockets of resistance"

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BrotherBuzz

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Tue Mar-23-04 05:15 PM
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8. Sewerpipe might be a more apt term

Cherry picking turds at the sewage treatment plant (OSP) and piping them back to Bush*.

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