ALERT: Richard Clarke on Meet the Press in ...8....7.....6.....5...

It's going to be interesting...

Rummy & Powell will be doing the other Sunday talks and Clarke will be on again with Blitzer in Late Edition.

On edit: starts at 8:00 CST

Sucks for me.

They are trying to start a Richard Clarke is a homosexual rumor. Some freeper anonymously said somebody in the know anonymously told them that Clarke was gay, and now they are running with it.

This makes me happy. Clarke could be gay for all I know, or care, but the sign of desperation from the wingnuts is a very good sign.

These Bastards are mean. I hope his wife doesn't work for the CIA.

It is what they do best. They live to destroy people. If I could pick two things the GOP excells at they would be destroying people and Lying not necessarily in that order.

Can't wait

:P

I'm in chicago, and it's two hours from now

can't wait......

first thing you have to tell us is how agressively he goes after Clarke, with visuals of his own quotes

bet he does at least FIVE in the first ten minutes, maybe more

Anthony Michael Hall, Robert Downey, Kelly LeBrock

the STAR is Bill Paxton.......he kills

I love Bill Paxton!

when she made him into a TURD?

was he that the inspiration for Jabba the Hut, or what?

or did that come out first......can't remember

Do you know where Alton is? Great historic area just across the river from St. Louis.

probably been through there!

used to go to Belleville all the time.

my first college roommate lived there...his dad owned bar there

used to be a laundry called, swear to god "Helpee Selfee"
had a big sign with a horrid caricature of Chinese guy with huge buck teeth sticking out!

love that area

have a cousin in another town next to Belleville.....can't remeber the name right now

howzat?

Let's see how he handles Clarke.

Go Clarke! HI fellow DUers (((hugs))

Not on for another hour, FORCED to watch the local tv hairdos talk bs for another hour

I'm psyched!

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If not it should be anytime soon.

Giving Clarke a chance to rebutt, I hope...

Declassify it all, brotha!

Take that Bush!

He shoots and scores!

I HATE that fat, rosacious, bloated piece of bovine excremento!

soes not have a great answer for yet.

He's defending the earlier briefing after the Time article now (for the umpteenth time).

Clarke is now saying the WH is engaging in character assassination and this should be aboult policies and not personalities.

with his pugpals

zero followup for them, neverending perseveration for dems

WAIT.....Clarke isn't a dem; what is up with THAT?

hes on the offensive! yahoo hes ready

after the Time article///

please!

this SHOULD be Waterloo for the junta

if the media have their way, Clarke will be hoist on fatprick's petard, and we're screwed

this is unbelievably crucial!

or am I just raving?

he has integrity.
and hes telling the truth.
demanding real discourse, not character assinations from the WH
wants to talk about war in Iraq undermining terrorism
wow

you deserve MUCH good news!

can you describe how that loathsome cretin is behaving toward the new John Dean

please, some details.....he's got to be very angry now, if he's not making headway for Himmler, Bormann, Goerring, etal

I think Russert is trying to assisinate him with spin, but Clarke has an answer for everything
Russert showing Frist now..how disgusting...hes such a whore.
Clarke so far is stating that its not about him, its about the undermining of the war on terror by Bush
Clarke demanding some real discourse

WTF was that? That was so dumb. Here it is. Here's the plan...

This guy is a creep...

Clarke is a creep? What does that make Bush?

can you send ani to Tralfamadore?

:evilgrin:

I bet that's another word our friendly visitor finds suspicious. By the way, I wonder what he/she is doing hanging around in cyberspace if he/she doesn't like it?

That is the term used in the law enforcement community.

I sort of think it's a dated and dumb term. A politician word.

Maybe I'm wrong...

The whole thing with holding up the plan...it just seems like this guy is grandstanding.

why don't you go watch a hemhorroidectomy video, and tell us how that comes out?

:wtf:

He's on too much...I guess I have Clarke overload...

just curious?

and do you want to find out why our government FAILED us in its MOST inportant function?

do you want to make CERTAIN that it never happens again?

do you realize that Russert is working very hard to KEEP that from happening?

this is NOT about personality

it's NOT about politics?

would you have supported Admiral Kimmel NOT testifying before the commission that investigated Pearl Harbor?

do you know who Admiral Kimmel WAS?

...do you want to find out why our government FAILED us in its MOST inportant function?

Sure - but MTP? Meaningless isn't it? It's a TV show...not an investigative commission.

Russert...I dunno...he's paid to say what he says. I assume he says what the boss wants. I liked his interview with Brian Lamb.

I don't see how you interpret my comment as such a huge strike at his credibility?...and you have stretched it to the point of suggesting that I think Clarke should not have testified? Where do you get that...?

We have been inundated by a press willing to let the Bush klan walk all over us. Now when someone from the inside steps forwar and speaks out about the lies they have been perpetrating on the public the media goes into full smear mode. The notion that you put forward that he is grandstanding to sell books would seem to place you on their side of the equation. The anger and hostility towards the lies dumped on us by this murderous administration will naturally find their way to anyone that seems to support their side.

INCENSED beyond expression

wait til you see what the thugs do with this, AND that horsebadortie Newsweek Poll

Terry Holt was smirking his disgusting maw over it already on CNN

what's that phrase?

energy creature?

Time to to try another handle...

he has had real military experience
he has integrity
he is not going to pull "some has-beens" from a former administration because he can't handle being president
he is intelligent
he is articulate (and for all you people who like a "plain-spoken" guy, hello? Bush was NEVER plain-spoken; he was illerate
what ever happened to the days when good orators were praised and not called "elitists?" (JFK etc)
Dumb and proud of it! (Bush and their followers)

edit: usual stuff

Why don't you go back and count the media appearances by the following to assassinate Clarke's character?

Condi
Gillespie
McClellan
Frist
Delay
Hastert


and this list is FAR from complete.

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371 posts is a low number now?

Sheesh, it'll be years before anybody trusts me....

welcome to DU.

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I do adore Buffy -- but as for anyone who likes BtVS being trustworthy... nuh-uh. I heard Bill O'Reilly is a fan.

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plus his comments. Some posters can't resist attempting to bring us over to the "right" side. They believe if they interject some kind of talking point that they believe that it will throw us for a loop. It isn't that you can't disagree with people on this board, it's simply what comes out inevitably that shows they are just not on the side most of us are on.

I once had a low number, and no, I wasn't trusted for a long time (might not even be now). Usually people not friendly to the democratic cause will stop posting. OTOH, some post for a long time. So, there's truly no way to tell by number of posts. However, the posters who are here to either make trouble or to find out what we are thinking and doing are, usually, easily discernible. Of course, we probably have some who have fooled us for a long time. However, they are really fooling themselves. We hope they will learn something on this forum.

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When a person has a gut reaction to someone, it tells us more about the person. Specifically what their preexisting biases are. Clarke does not match with your expectations of how things should be. Thus your mind images him as untrustworthy. You will not accept his words as truth.

None of this means he is wrong or lying. Just that you cannot accept what he is saying.

But he's already said it...now he's talking about what he said and selling books.

You do know that lots of people are interested in talking to him about what he said. And some of those people are interested in making him look bad. He is standing up for something. He was not interested in saying it under his breath in the privacy of a closet. He wants the world to hear it. Expect to hear him say his peace over and over again. And expect those who he is speaking against to drag him into the spot light and throw mud at him from the darkness.

all the bush cartel want to do is find ways to get more money and power everytime they appear on a program.

i don't understand why we shouldn't demand that people like Clarke are given more airtime.

I could have sworn you were still receiving your estrogen shots to keep your adam's apple unswelled.

... since it's an accepted word in both The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition, and Webster's New Millennium™ Dictionary of English.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cyberspace

English is a living language. :shrug:

Don't have the book yet, but I haven't heard that mentioned at all in connection with Clarke or the hearings.

My gut says that memo is the "smoking gun."

Anybody know if Clarke has had anyting to say about it?

classified

only the THUGS can do that, declassifying documents at their pleasure, when it suits their evildoing ends

On August 6, 2001, the President personally "received a one-and-a-half page briefing advising him that Osama bin Laden was capable of a major strike against the US, and that the plot could include the hijacking of an American airplane." In July 2001, the Administration was also told that terrorists had explored using airplanes as missiles.

it was only about HIGHjacking, NOT specifically about craching into a building

in New York

in the battery

at 832 in the morning

on September 11

etc

also, is that what Clarke said?

thx

other reports say it was as long as 11 pages.

they are usually 2-3 pages apparently.

thanks.... I don't get MeetThe Press on the West Coast here until about an hour and a half from now. It's on opposite Stephanoplous ... just wondering if you knew who was on that show?

I'm sure I'll watch Clarke

Doing damage control, I imagine.

can't remember which

if I feel masochistic, I watch this week now, then mtp later

not today

some local NBC affiliates also rerun MTP in the middle of the night tonight around 2 a.m. (Monday morning)

and Russert is still hedging..trying to assisinate him with personality crap..Richard says baloney, answers Russert...
Clarke wants to talk about Iraq!!
shut up Tim!!

has it been ALL attack on him, nothing on the substance of what the USURPERS have DONE to the country?

doesn't Russert want to know WHAT HAPPENED

rhetorical

I wish Clarke would ask him how if Bob Welch is giving him an extra bonus for asking such irrelevant questions

character assisination, only bringing up personality
Clarke is answering him well tho
he demands a new level of civility
he demands a new level of integrity and discourse
and he wants to talk about why Iraq is hurting the war on terror etc

that PRICK! sorry
that's EXACTLY what I predict

now, my second prediction, unfortunately, will most likely happen:

the media will pick the most SCABROUS questions Russet asked, and play those everywhere, just like the Lehman "you have a credibility problem" one (some of those questions were designed JUST for that purpose, you can be certain)

to focus on me rather than the message.

a man of integrity..saying he had to get it off his chest, apologize to the american people...
washington insiders telling him he wont make another dime in DC if he keeps telling the truth
makes me think of the saying
IF A MAN GAINETH THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSES HIS SOUL HE HAS LOST EVERYTHING
Clark still has a heart/
the WH doesnt

Is completely composed making eye contact and stating the facts. Clarke is so eloquent, confident and great presenter. Russert is trying to keep the attacks going on his character and everytime Clarke says I will answer your question but again the issue is not may character but the facts.

is he dealing at all in substance?

please

What did Clarke do in the 8 years with Clinton to stop terror. Washington Post judgement that Clinton and Bush efforts about the same!!!!!!!

Go Richard take Russert down

because of the Monica Lewinsky crap, Clinton was attacked by the press for going after Bin Laden and was vilified as wagging the dog by bombing the Al Queda camps
ergo, all the energy and taxpayers monies that went after Clinton at that time, plus the press going after Clintons BJ, undermined the war on Al Queda and made us more vulnerable then ever

so every Clinton hater out there HELPED 9/11 HAPPEN....AND UNDERMINED THE WAR ON AL QUEDA
CLARKE ALSO SAID that had A CHANCE TO HAVE PEACE WITH THE MUSLIM WORLD AND WE BLEW IT AFTER 9/11

or contributed to 911 happening. Clinton hater's supported the terrorists and were unAmerican.

is a little less obnoxious than usual. JMO

and hes telling the truth.
How can we email Mr Clarke, and thank him?

He has truly made me proud today. I'm a little shocked Russert was so open. Hard to see how Condi can possibly refuse open testimony at this point.

book. Waaaah.

Clark gives him a straight answer and scores again.

I want meat, and there is too much on why Clarke is biased. Of coarse he is biased, chimp blew it.

the point isn't to nail him so much, that'd be gravy

the POINT is to get a whole bunch of nasty questions in the can....just the questions.....you'll never see the response again

those questions will make him look BAD in other spots on TV

that's all they care about

they did this OVER and OVER last week, with the Thompson questions and the Lehman "you have a credibility problem" one

how in the world do you think they got that ridiculous poll number at Newsweek that said only TWENTY FIVE percent of responders thought Clarke was honest, and FIFTY PERCENT thought he was only in it for the money???????????

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they're EVIL!

"you wont make another dime in washington DC"
when asked about the monies from the book...the Bush admin is making sure he never makes another dime in DC
hes donating much of the proceeds to victims families.
He is a hero.
God bless him.

obvious and Clarke is honest and forthright in his answers.

what do you think about that?

am I insane?

so successful with in the past.

I hope that the truth (re: Clarke's info) is stronger than the propaganda this time.

I was conFABulated with what ABC did to him

not to mention Wolf and John King, who slurpingly repeated unsourced and SLANDEROUS rumors about his personal character traits last week

unbelievable, McCarthyite garbage...no details, just that he was....well, different, and some people said he was weird, or something

you should have seen it

they'll stop at NOTHING

that Newsweek poll is very troubling

lying sack of fecal dripping Holt, from RNC, quoted it moments ago, to assert that people don't BELIEVE Clarke, and think he's in it for a buck

you'll hear that poll over and over and over and over and over

I PROMISE you

the media will run with it all week, too

I'm hoping that there will be overkill with it this time and that we'll see some blowback.

People are hearing this and the repugs are seriouly frightened. I am hoping more and more people will start thinking that the repugs are "protesting too much."

detriment to the war on terror was nothing short of brilliant. Of course, it took the whole hour to get to the main point, but oops we are out of time and can't expand on these points.

to ask someone who they are going to vote for a show like MTP?

if it'd been ME, Id/ve immediately asked fatprick who HE was going to vote for, AND how much money he was being paid to be a shill for the RNC

AND if he was donating his salary as a payment in kind donation

ETC

did clarke ask him who Russert was voting for?

he didn't, did he?

Clarke answered perfectly
"Thats my business."
Makes Russert look like an ass.

Basically saying it was none of his business.

We're talking an institution that'll get a new widow on camera and ask her "So, the ol' bed's gonna seem a little empty tonight, eh?"

Rove will eventually have his Press Warriors asking Clark about his "Depends" usage.

and they cant touch him.
he says he isnt in public office, he wont ever be in it again, hes a man of integrity, he won , hes a man with honour and integrity, he even brought up his mother who told him to be polite.
he won. period.
he told the truth.
anything Rice says on 60 minutes is destroyed now.
This raised all the questions about Iraq being a mistake.
This raised them all...this is a call to the REAL journalists out there, if there are any, to dig up the truth about Iraq.
please, if there is a god, please.

but check post 63

what do you think about that

I think it's a setup for future smears

remember. He mentioned that he would donate to the 9/11 families and armed services families..but washington insiders tell him
HE WONT MAKE ANOTHER DIME IN DC
this WH is vicious.
and he is a man of integrity.
MTP@NBC.com

email and call him a hero.

IF THERE ARE ANY ACTUAL JOURNALISTS LEFT IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY COULD DIG UP WHY THE FUCK WE ARE IN IRAQ????????????????????????????????????????????????????

HELLO?????????????????????????

WHY IS MY KID IN IRAQ?????MEDIA WHORES?????????????

had his finger in his face about Iraq on Sept 12 again? Damn I missed it!!! :(

since it would be damaging to the Chimp. Clarke was so busy fending off character assassination charges that he had virtually no time to talk about the facts.

where he actually gets to address the Iraq issue. He already did that so what the hell is left?!? :(

Clarke calmy and professionally shot down each and every right wing talking point.

He exposed them as the lies and distortions they are.

It was a victory, complete. At least on this one morning there can be no doubt to anyone who was watching, anyone who has followed these issues, that this Shrub is a lying POS who is a danger to this country.

A line has been drawn in the sand. From this point foward anyone who defends the Bush admin. is guilty of KNOWINGLY aiding and abetting criminal organization.

Clarke has made it undeniable that the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq is a distraction from the War on Terror.

that I think is absolutely crucial:

He said that no one in the Bush administration is willing to address the issue on its merits . All they do is engage in ad hominen attacks.

That should be repeated over and over every time the administration shills make an accusation against Clarke personally: "Speak to the merits of the issue." Hold them to it.

And Lisa Beemer isn't?

"Will you give the royalties from the book to the Children...?"

That would set a precedence, wouldn't it? OK, so is Annthrax, Insanity, Gush, etc. gonna donate the royalites from their screeds to the families of people Bush has hurt?

They don't want the truth. I am sure they are the same families that didn't mind Bush using 911 images in his campaign ads.

How can these families, all 40 of them, out of almost three thousand have the gall to complain somebody is going to make some money on a work he wrote and published, when they got the millions we gave them already? I know that sounds bad, but God, how much do they want? Our soldiers are getting killed everyday, their families get, well, I'm not sure, when I was in the Army the death benefit was $35,000.00, I don't know what it is today. What did the victims of the Cole get? What did the victims of the embassy bombings get? What do the victims of drunk drivers get? Not millions and a free college education, I can tell you that.

Now, do I think the families of 9/11 victims shouldn't have gotten what they've gotten? Of course not. We gave them that money. I sent some in myself and blood, too. But, they best not start bitching if somebody else earns money for writing a book that tries to, at least, explain WHY the hell their people were murdered. That makes me sick!

after I was brought to tears by his testimony at the commission hearing.

He who keeps silent is assumed to consent.
Richard Clarke, American Patriot

I have had the first part about being silent for about a year with interchanging photos. Then along came Mr. Clark the patriot and it fit beautifully! Could you make me that bumpersticker rad? :)

I never watch MTP, since I can't stomach that RNC shill Russert turd.

I did, however, tune in for his interview with Bush* and today's interview with Clarke. What strikes me - aside from the obvious content issues, where I thought Clarke did very well - was how shockingly different in every substantial way Clarke is from Bush*.

Our pRresident was fumbling, unsure, ignorant and creepy on MTP, as he always is. Clarke was straightforward, confident, intelligent and blunt. Shocking that a WH staffer is SO much more intelligent and competent that our pResident.

so it was OK that he wasn't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. Now we see how this has come back to haunt them.

There story now must be that the adviser was not as smart as Bush!

Clarke whipping out the hand-written letter from Bush saying he'd be missed!

Sort of defuses all that blather about 'Well, Clarke was so nice in his letter, so he must be lying now,' doesn't it?

This guy operates at a much higher level than the Smear Machine can contend with. They have no answer for the unvarnished truth.

The more the WH fights this guy, the more ground they'll lose. Bravo, Mr. Clarke.

-as

cuz he didn't support Jr.'s invasion of Iraq.

it was wag the dog. The Media & Republicans said that it was to distract us from Monica" (Paraphrasig)

That is what they wre saying while playing Devil with the Blue Dress on. The media instead of whoring needs to apologize to those familes as well. They too are responsible !

He was interrupting Ted all over the place last week. Clarke is terrific.

Edit: Found my answer in the other thread!

... and wait'll you see the caricature of the corpulent pundit! Click here!

Central time. CH208 for DISH viewers

Just... absolutely chilling. I've heard him say these things before, of course, but hearing it each time is still shocking. The CIA director and Chief Counterterrorism expert put the govt at high alert and the Bush Admin did nothing. In a similar situation, the Clinton Admin shook out every piece of information to prevent the attacks (which they did!) while "Dr. Rice chose not to do that" - CHOSE not to do ANYTHING. They were "lackadasial"! God help us all.

Russert kept hammering, but he was calm and cool. Excellent job, Mr. Clarke. :thumbsup: Thank you.

Can I just say that Tim Russert is the biggest dick of a reporter?!?

It's a damn shame that there are no "journalists" anymore.