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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:44 AM
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Freepers start whisper campaign: "Clarke is gay, and blackmailable."
To: Carolinamom
BTW, another Freeper who seems to be "in the know" and had advance knowledge of a few of the tidbits that have come out about Clarke regarding discrepancies in his testimony, says that Clarke is gay and that is why he was unable to get the higher security clearance and job promotion he sought. He's a blackmail risk.

36 posted on 03/28/2004 6:06:25 AM PST by Peach
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies >

More on this thread about Sunday morning talk shows:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1106645/posts
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:46 AM
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1. They will change their tunes when their kids are drafted.
why waste your time with them.
www.bushdraft.com
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:47 AM
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2. Higher clearance?
Just what higher clearance could've the man had? Double top secret? What a bunch of morans.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:03 AM
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14. "Double Top Secret" LOL!
How about "Top Secret Infinity"....
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:07 AM
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16. Higher clearance than that...
"Plaid"
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:41 PM
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36. and then there's double secret probation........
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #14
43. That's like Animal House
When the fraternity was put on double secret probation
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #14
51. Double Secret Probation
Loved that movie...sigh
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:12 PM
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58. This is a Freeper thread if I ever saw one.
That's right. Talk about a "whisper camaign" so we all can begin whispering.
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:48 AM
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3. Check out this abhorent post from that same thread
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 10:49 AM by rumguy

I had been suspecting homosexuality as the reason for his vehemence against President Bush, as this sort of elitist gay *hates* Christians and Christianity. It doesn't matter to them one iota that Clinton *signed* the Defense of Marriage Act because they feel he is as conflicted and neurotic as they are and took comfort when a conflicted and neurotic p***y-whipped metrosexual was the President.

Clarke also looks exactly like the kind of person who is caught in an international gay pedophile scandal -- sent from Central Casting to a "Law and Order SVU".
301 posted on 03/28/2004 7:37:01 AM PST by HateBill

He's a homo! He's a pedophile! This is the mindset the right wing has spawned...

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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:53 AM
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6. Those christians are such a kind and loving lot
It's the opposite...christians hate every one, including homosexuals and now we can add to their litany of hate, metrosexuals!LOL What a bunch of hypocritical loons. I hope the rapture does come so God rids the world of their crazy asses, it'd be a much nicer planet without christians.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:59 AM
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11. A-fricknen-Men!
n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:44 AM
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69. Best part.. When they get "raptured"...
Their clothes and personal belongings are "left behind".. Some of those blonde bimbette wives have some nice stuff..

Think of the garage sales we could have...

We could have pool parties and invite all the inner city kids to swim in their pools and wear their fancy duds..


I could use a nicer car too :)
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:48 AM
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30. They're not Christians
If they came across Jesus, they'd kick him. They're Xtians.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #30
60. You're right. And if Jesus came across these so -called
Christians, he'd never stop throwing up.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:32 AM
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65. bingo
Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 03:34 AM by Djinn
"he's a furrener and a given he's swarthy probably a terrurist", he also was a bit of a hippie - these freaks would've flogged him as much if not more than the Romans did
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:54 AM
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7. that is hilarious
Their obsession with sex and people's sexual practices is clearly pathological.

Remember that study that said that men think about sex every five seconds? I think Freepers think about gay sex every two seconds. They probably think about gay sex more often than gay people do.

There's some deep, Freudian stuff going on there.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:11 PM
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44. I would think that as nutty as they are...
they would abhor anything that was Jewish including circumcism.

And just think... more of them would then be dying from AIDS based on the recent news about circumcism being a factor in reducing AIDS.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #44
61. that stuff about
circ lowering AIDS risk is a bunch of bunk, though.

Just wanted to point that out.

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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:05 AM
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15. Don't like Bush? That's because yer an anti-Christian ho-mo-sex-u-al!
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 11:06 AM by Rationality
These kind of claims are so fucking stupid it's funny.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:09 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. and the problem with this title?LOL
christians are stupid-throw rocks at them.
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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:49 AM
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4. Laugh at them
No matter all their bluster about how Clarke isn't believed, the W.H. is winning, the fact that they are resorting to this, shows that they are not as oblivious as they act. Their hero Chimpy is in trouble, they know it, and they are getting as hysterical as the W.H.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:51 AM
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5. How does being gay hinder the clearances?
That's just asinine. What possible justification could there be for that?

Freepers are such homophobic jerks.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:13 PM
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45. They don't need justification
They just need fear to enact anything they want.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:55 AM
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8. what does it matter whether he is gay ?
why is that even an issue here ? the real issues he raises has nothing to do with whether or not he is gay. if he is gay, how does that change anything he says? what a bunch of assholes the freepers are.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:22 AM
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20. Great point!
You are hitting the nail on the head: it doesn't matter at all if he is gay, what his zodiac sign is, his favorite color, or any of this pathetic crap. What is important -- and you are focuing on it -- is the content of what he is saying! So, it is extremely important that d.u.ers bring that message to the mainstream. Why is the w.h. trying to distract the public? Why another savage attack on the messenger? Connect it with the Wilson "leak," and the general public will be as repulsed by this administration as we are.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:55 AM
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9. Figure that this is the only non-issue these morons would care about.
What losers!
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:56 AM
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10. Well, it's official. They've got nothing.
When they start whispering that someone is gay, you know they've hit rock bottom.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:02 AM
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12. Clarke had the highest clearance
in the government when he left.

I did like in the 9-11 commission hearing that he said something about "Lets me think about what I can answer here" meaning what is classified and not.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:02 AM
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13. The difference between a Freeper and a Klansman?
The sheet.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #13
48. Yeah, the freepers don't wash theirs. That'd be too "metrosexual."
Real men don't take pride in their appearance! *urp*
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:37 AM
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66. ROTFLMAO n/t
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 05:15 AM
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70. No... the difference is...
The sheet is laundered. Freeper's sheet is covered with drool stains and bodily waste.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:07 AM
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17. and this is different from the perennial "Bush or Rush is gay" threads
in precisely what way? And, please don't even try the "can you site one" tactic. We all know there have been many, many of these threads. So again, they are different how?
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:22 AM
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19. Don't pull that "can you cite one" tactic?
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 11:25 AM by Rationality
If you're making such a demand, then I must assume you don't really know of any actual incidents.

So I ask: cite one!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:27 AM
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22. It is against the rules as you well know
but ask any gay person on this forum and he or she can tell you of the several Bush is gay and the several Rush is gay threads. By the way you will notice I can't search. Poverty does that. You have a star. I have given you the title. If you wish I will tell you two people I have known have authored them in the past. PM me and I will send you the names. If you still can't find them with your star then tough shit.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:39 AM
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67. Just a wee point
you know if you donate $2 you can get a star - DU aren't politicians so even a bit of money gets you access - if you can spare a buck (or two) the extra features are worth it
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. BTW post 23
of this thread. That theory had been posted at least a dozen times.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #19
37. Oh, don't you know never to ask...
...us queer DUers, to give links to threads about things concerning someone being gay, or gay rights, etc? We can pull up a ton of them if needed.

But here is a few I found. And I can tell you there are a lot more at the old DU, but I am not about to go hunting around there when it is after 3am for me.


If he's really gay, Rep David Dreier (R) should be outed

Is Bu$h a 'closet' homosexual?

Should certain gay repubs be OUTED?

George Bush * Is gay...I wonder why

Now I am going to bed.
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #37
52. I see.... my bad. I'll shut up now. (n/t)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:43 AM
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27. Here's some examples for ya
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #27
28. thank you
I am sure that poster will be right here to look and apologize for his implication that I was lying. I am sick to death of being called a liar on this forum for having the temerity to defend gays.
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Rationality Donating Member (752 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #28
59. I was wrong but no apology is warranted
If you refute someone, present the evidence with it. If you can't, you haven't disproven anything. When you made that claim in #17 without providing examples, what I said was warranted.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:59 AM
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33. There is a difference.
The Bush and Rush gay rumours are an effort to expose hypocrisy, not discredit them for their sexual identity.

Bush and Rush have made homosexuality an issue by their own statements throughout the years. Clarke has never even said the word, as far as I know.

If Roy Cohen's homosexuality had been publicly exposed, it would have discredited him. It only discredits conservatives who rail against it.

For the record, I think neither Bush nor Rush are secretly gay, but at least people who promote that idea have presented "evidence". The Freepers making this statement about Clark are just making it up out of thin air.

A person's sexuality isn't a non-issue if the person makes the sexuality of others' an issue.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:38 PM
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35. Oh please
First, there is no evidence that either Bush or Rush is gay that isn't stereotypical non sense. In Bush's case it is goofy initiation rites combined with his decision to remain friends with the presumed to be gay Victor Ashe. That is it. In Rush's case it is his gay mentor, his lack of natural born children, and a possibly existent arrest.

Second, the issue, according to the Freeper thread is ability to be black mailed not being gay. That sounds substantially similar to me.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:36 PM
Response to Reply #35
47. Hello?
When you read the word "evidence" in my post, did you notice it was in quotes?

I did that to indicate that it dubious.

The blackmail claim regarding Clarke is just an embellishment for their.

It's about the hypocrisy.
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #33
54. Don't you realize...
...that the moment you try and out someone for being gay regardless of who they are, you are discreding their sexual identity?

There is absolutely no difference to what people say right here at DU about so and so being gay, to what the freeps are saying now. It is using sexuality as a weapon. The freeps are being their usual selves, but when these absurd accusation come from the left, we are in fact lowering ourselves to a freeps level.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:23 AM
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21. And Shrub *Isn't* Blackmailable?
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:29 AM
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23. No. It's BUSH that is gay. Sleeps with Knoxville mayor Victor Ashe
That's the RUMOR I heard ;)

Hey, as a gay man, I find the notion totally discusting, but I'm just say'n. . .
http://www.tylwythteg.com/enemies/Bush/bush423.html
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:17 PM
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34. Yes...
there's many articles about this..Wouldn't surprise me..maybe pickles found out after she had the twins and that was the end of it..wouldn't surprise me if she was threatened and was told she would have whatever she wanted, including being the first lady, which the people pay for!
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:31 AM
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24. How very republican.
The republican semen sleuths are hard at work.
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Mom_and_Dad Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:33 AM
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25. Do Freeper's live in their own universe?
I want to live in the Freeper World!
I would love to live where the DNC is in control of the MEDIA!
Where the Dems are in control of the whole world!
Where is this place?
According to them we simply say something and the sycophantic press
roll over and repeat it ad nauseum!

Sorry but it seems to me that the exact opposite is what really happens.

Can I click my ruby slippers together? ;)

What do you guys (and gals) think?

:eyes: :tinfoilhat:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #25
38. Hi Mom_and_Dad!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:46 AM
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29. hahahahahah
I write fiction, and I couldn't make this stuff up. No one would believe me.
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neebob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:51 AM
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31. Oh, of course
He's criticizing the manly stud warp resident; therefore, he must be gay. Plus he wears glasses and speaks in series of coherent sentences that support one another and form coherent ideas.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:51 AM
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32. That's what the Nazis used to do to discredit opponents...
...early in the Third Reich. Then they just began arresting people and shipping them off to concentration camps. Their final solution was gassing and executions. Apart from those parallels, I guess the Bushies are pretty up front:freak:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:52 PM
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39. This is so fucked up...
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 12:53 PM by fujiyama
How the hell does his sexuality have anything to do with his national security credentials?

Another question is, how the hell can any gay person vote republican?

God, these people are vicious, nasty, ass holes. Kerry sure was right when he referred to them as crooked liars.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:02 PM
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49. Well, back in the McCarthy days, that was a real issue, in that...
they considered being gay a "security risk," because all gays were in the closet and therefore were at risk of blackmail. And gays should *stay* in the closet, because they are a security risk. QED. (Just ask J. Edgar Hoover).

Some fifty or sixty years later, I would tend to doubt that that little tautology is still in effect so much. But it makes perfect sense that the freepers are taking a page from the McCarthy era.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:52 PM
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40. The Republicans always say that these people are gay.
They said that about John Maynard Keynes among others in the past.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:52 PM
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41. Typical of repugs' smear tactics, only works on Right-Wing Christians,
I've posted many times, if rethugs are losing an argument about someone, they start saying 'he's gay'. Did it to Hans Blix, 'member?
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DemLikr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:06 PM
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42. Is Clarke gay?! I hope so...another honorable, intelligent gay man rides
to the rescue.

How can this be bad for anyone?

Richard Clarke is a stud--straight, gay or in between!

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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:33 PM
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46. a small selection of posts...
....to let you know the gist of their antipathy toward Clarke.


To: Pukin Dog
Are you suggesting that David Brock and Clark are/ were gay lovers, after all Washington/ Versailles are really small towns when it comes to a homosexual mating pool? Sorry, just riffing.

622 posted on 03/28/2004 9:43:13 AM PST by Helms (A Kennedy Man Cuckolded - Turnabout Is Fairplay)
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To: Carolinamom
Clarke, a master bureaucrat who covers his own a$$.Being homosexual, that is the only place he covers it! According to DNCBS he must be a log cabin Republican.....right!! This minnow needs to be shown as the traitor that he is. Why Mr Clark did we support Al Queda in Kosovo???Pray for W and The Truth

629 posted on 03/28/2004 9:50:19 AM PST by bray (Hey Yaaaawn, the clinton admin coddled terrorists and so will you!)
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To: zook
If clarke is exposed as a homosexual troll, that will further push sentiment against the various homosexual causes.

(perhaps orin hatch would wake up and smell reality.)

646 posted on 03/28/2004 10:06:04 AM PST by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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Posted by rintense to Just mythoughts
On News/Activism 03/28/2004 8:39:39 AM PST #488 of 662

I think there is SOOOOOO much implied racism in everything Clarke has said about Condi. A woman, a black woman, got the job he wanted. And as a (gay) man, that just isn't fair.

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swinney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:26 PM
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50. Touche' ---Bush Gay at Yale?
was not he a gay cheerleader. Looked queer. Talked queer.We do go by looks and speech do we not?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:24 AM
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63. Perhaps we should ask Victor Ashe...
If GW is gay.
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:40 PM
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53. I told a National Security Agency recruiter I was gay
in 1986. Didn't phase them at all. (They were recruiting mathematicians heavily in those days.) The only thing they needed to know was whether I was openly gay, so I wouldn't be vulnerable to blackmail. As it happened, I decided not to follow up; I went into academia.

So this story seems more than a little bullshitty to me.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 09:39 PM
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55. You are quite right which makes the military even more bizarre on this
At the exact same time the military was defending this policy Brian Williams, who was well known to be gay, was working as the spokeman for Richard Cheney who was Sec of Defense.
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Sanity Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 09:47 PM
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56. Tell the freepers it's blackmail not Black Male
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 09:47 PM by Sanity
n/t
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 09:55 PM
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57. Well that seals it for me. He's gay so he must be lying.
What sound logic these guys possess.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:48 PM
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62. What IS it with freepers and homosexuality?
I mean what is their obsession with that topic? It really makes me start to wonder....

There is a freeper who is always barging in on a certain liberal chat room I won't name and he is OBSESSED with homosexuality and pedophilia. He claims Clinton was a pedophile because of Monica, who was TWENTY-THREE YEARS OLD at the time. Uh, yeah. We had to write out the definition of pedophilia for him. He still didn't understand.

He also likes to describe anal sex a lot. Their minds are truly warped and twisted. Seriously, let the freepers stew in their own hate. It'll eat them up.

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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:25 AM
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64. Me thinks he doth protest
too much. :eyes:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-04 03:41 AM
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68. Wellllll.. What about Condi???
She's 50 something...with no man ...hmmmmmm

Those wacky freepers are something else, no??
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