How the hell does bu$h stay up in the polls?

The worst President in the history of our country. A man who lied to the country and started an illegal war. A man who ignored the terrorist threats. A man who has run down this country in the eyes of the world. A man who has squandered the federal surplus and now has a trillion dollar deficit. A man who lost 3 million jobs. A man who completely disrespects the environment. A man who has not done the right thing a single time during his years in the White House.
That man is STILL up in the polls. Have we really been dumbed down that much??? Are we really so ignorant a people???

I think the 50/50 thing for Bush and Kerry is as fake as the %5.6 unemployment. I simply cannot believe that many stupid people live in America.

they Live in fear and eat it up... but i don't beLieve as many as the poLLs suggest; the poLLs are manufactured.

they aren't real.

but the "poll-takers" will pretend they are and keep the race even so diebold can step in and do its thing for fascism.

His numbers have dropped in 28 of the 30 months since 9/11. In addition, much anecdotal evidence points to accelerating erosion in Bush support.

Will his job approval numbers be kept frozen at 48-50% from here on out? And even given an artificial boost if he gets Osama or plants WMD?

Did the Republican pollsters get the word from Rove to stop the bleeding? Can they be trusted to tell the truth? After all, their counterparts at Fox, NBC, NYT, CNN are constantly whoring for Bush. Why should the pollsters be any different?

If Bush's long term job approval trend were to continue, he will be at 40% by Sept. With an average rating that low from 11 different pollsters, there is no way Diebold could get away with stealing it for him. It would be too obvious. There is only one way they can steal it - if Bush is close to 50% come Nov.

Can the American people be duped on such a massive scale? Because that is the only way the whoremedia can keep Bush in the WH.

My feeling is if Bush is over 48% after the July Dem convention, then that will mean.....
..................... THE FIX IS IN...


1Newsweek 2Fox 3CNN 4Pew 5Harris 6CBS 7ABC 8Time 9NBC 10AP 11Zogby

.......1...2...3...4...5...6...7..8..9..10..11..Avg

2001
Feb 52 55 57 53 na 53 55 52 na na 57 ...54.3
Mar 55 56 63 56 56 53 58 55 57 na 53 ...56.2
Apr 57 63 59 53 49 60 63 na 56 na 52 ...56.9
May 57 59 53 50 59 56 55 52 na na 52 ...54.8
Jun na 59 55 51 50 57 na na 50 na 51 ...53.3
Jul na 56 52 52 56 na 59 55 na na 47 ...53.9
Aug na 55 51 50 52 53 55 na na na 50 ...52.3
Sep 86 81 87 80 na na 86 84 82 na 82 ...83.5 TriFecta
Oct 84 80 na 84 88 89 92 89 na na 78 ...85.5
Nov 85 84 87 84 86 87 89 87 88 na na ...86.3
Dec 82 86 86 na 82 85 89 82 85 na 81 ...84.2

2002
Jan na 83 84 80 79 86 86 77 82 77 80 ...81.4
Feb 83 81 82 78 79 84 83 na na na 74 ...80.5
Mar 74 80 81 na 77 82 82 75 na 75 74 ...77.8
Apr 71 79 76 74 75 78 79 75 74 72 69 ...74.7
May 73 72 77 na 74 76 78 72 75 71 70 ...73.8
Jun 70 74 70 70 70 71 77 70 69 na 69 ...71.0
Jul 68 70 76 67 62 70 72 70 67 67 62 ...68.3
Aug 61 69 68 60 63 65 69 na na 65 na ...65.0
Sep 70 66 66 63 68 66 69 65 64 65 na ...66.2
Oct 61 65 67 na 64 66 67 61 63 63 63 ...64.0
Nov 60 68 63 61 65 63 67 64 na na na ...63.9
Dec na 65 64 61 64 61 66 55 na 64 64 ...62.7

2003
Jan 56 63 63 58 na 65 59 53 62 64 na ...60.3
Feb 61 57 61 54 52 59 64 62 54 58 63 ...58.6
Mar 53 60 57 55 na 56 62 54 61 57 62 ...57.7
Apr 71 71 70 67 70 68 71 62 62 51 54 ...65.2 Shock & Awe
May 65 65 69 65 na 67 71 63 71 64 61 ...66.1
Jun 61 66 64 60 61 67 68 na 62 na 58 ...63.0
Jul 55 60 62 58 na 66 59 55 na 60 53 ...58.7
Aug 53 59 60 56 57 60 59 na 56 58 52 ...57.0
Sep 52 58 52 55 na 55 56 52 na 52 45 ...53.0
Oct 51 52 55 50 59 52 54 na 49 51 49 ...52.2
Nov 52 52 54 50 na 54 56 52 51 52 48 ...52.1
Dec 54 52 63 57 50 60 59 54 58 59 53 ...56.3 Saddam Capture

2004
Jan 50 58 60 56 na 50 58 54 54 56 49 ...54.5
Feb 48 48 51 48 51 50 50 54 na 47 na ...49.7
Mar 48 48 49 na na 51 50 na 50 48 46 ...48.8

You'll find them in small town cafes and barber shops. They see Kerry as another college boy Yankee and those folks always made them feel like dumb hicks. Bush is one of the folks, you know, he talks their language, and he would never make them feel dumb.

The only way to whittle this number down is by showing what Bush really IS, a rich Connecticut preppie who got everything in life handed to him by a rich Yankee family and who is only faking being a folksy Texan.

would be enough. Why are people so stuck on such a corrupt person? How is lying to America likable? How is smearing and attacking your former advisers likable???
AAAAaaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!! Wake up people!!!

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Totally gratuitous and unnecessary Christian bashing! And a 'feed-'em-to-the-lions' reference too! Good job!

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Or just the ones that disagree with you?

that people are stupid, so maybe ignorant is a better word. I have come to believe that the education system in this country actually teaches Americans not to think.

Those hot button "wedge" issues are about all they have time to digest, because they're too busy worrying about day to day life. Dealing with family life, work, personal crises...all combine to make it tough to listen to more than soundbites.

Republican ideas, especially when tethered to the Church, are easy for them to understand. Most folks are relatively simple in how they look at life, and don't really want to deal with more than what's on THEIR plate.

Folks get a whole lot more worked up about local zoning ordinances, water bills and income taxes than they do about Weapons of Mass Destruction, or the lack thereof. Most people don't want to know the true nature of our government, because blind faith in "American Values" and the thought that the President "cannot tell a lie" are essential myths to their lives.

1000 people. Some of the folks here that got calls say the questions are rigged or they hang up if you're too negative on Bushco.

Another thing they usually don't show are the questions and the order they are in. That makes a big difference.

Also is interpretation of the answers. Today there is talk that 70% of the people had not opinion change of Bush because of Clark. This implies that Clark isn't doing much damage. However, if you hated Bush before, and you're opinion changed, that you would say you're opinion hasn't changed.

The question is: who are they sampling? Is it biased? Does it truly reflect the population universe or is it weighted for pro-Bush voters?

We have no way of knowing the methodology. They could very well be rigging the polls to make Bush appear to more popular than he is.

If his poll numbers stop declining, even after all the negatives (Clarke, Plame, Medicare,etc.) coming out and he stays near 50%, we can assume that the election will be fixed.

Did you know that polsters regularly "adjust" their results "because Republicans are far less likely to answer polls"?

I know the GOP is extremely secretive . . .

the people on Fox News sit around all day, every day talking about what a manly man he is and villifying or making fun of all the girly men who say bad things about him, and people like my mother believe them because they look like nice people and they pretend to share her beliefs.

I am paid to do it.
And thats why I do NOT want any verifiable paper trails coming out of my voting machine.
http://www.votewatch.us/forum/showthread.php?t=305

I had so much fun ripping that liar Bush and knowing it would count in the next one. I even made the woman on the other end of the phone laugh. One question she asked was "How would you rate the Presidents overall job? Great. good, fair or poor."

I replied, "Do you have anything lower than poor?"

What is lower than poor - atrocious, god awful, heinous, detestable, horrifying - all of the above!

bu$h has been a complete failure as President.

if those of you who are so critical of polls that you are going to simply write them all off as propaganda tools, then if i ever see any positive polling numbers i'm going to equally write them off as well.

when kerry wins, any and all polls will be written off as propaganda for that administration as well.



most of the major polling companies are incredibly accurate when it comes to trends. looking at one poll won't do anything, but when set side by side with other polls, very accurate trends can be seen. Like it or not, this country is split 50/50 on so many different levels that it is assured to show up in these poll numbers. every election is just a matter of pushing outliers and marginals to one side or the other.

polls throughout his term. I'd be glad to do away with all polls except transparently run exit polls.

our compromised and complicit media

Outsourcing combined with countless ways for the economy to collapse outright (outsourcing, foreign outsourcing, housing bubble, low interest bubble, inflation, another attack, peak oil - * has neglected oil and other things related to oil..., and i could go on and on...)

Remember the Bush ]< era when things really turn to shit.[br />
If Kerry wins, the repukes will do more shifting than you could ever have thought possible when things start to go bad. You can bet your sweet bippy, it's going to take a gigantic miracle to get things right.

People don't think very well when they are frightened. And the media
pushs this false competent image of Bush everywhere. He's like Reagan
in that regard--he has this comforting image backed by something entirely
different.

I did. I voted republican all my life. I am embarressed to say I voted against Bill Clinton twice.
I saw the light in 1998. My first vote for a Democrat was Al Gore. In 2002 I even named my first born beautiful baby girl Chelsea. If you told me I would do that before 1998 I would have laughed hysterically.
It took me a long time to see through all the spin. If I can change-anyone can.

Welcome :hi:

I have been a reader for a long time but did not post.
I love the wonderful, well educated, caring, patriotic people who contribute here.

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'Divided' as in: "In his 2002 State of the Union address, President George W. Bush* simplistically divided the world in two: Those that agree with how the United States fights the War on Terror, and those that support terrorists."

not

'Dived' as in: "After being exposed for the most dangerous fraud the United States had ever seen in its 200+ years of history and one of the most dangerous in modern world history, former Pres. George W. Bush* dived headlong into the Potomac river, rather than be taken into custody under charges of treason."



Love the horns, though. ;)

But you made a good point - people won't get it!!

we'll just have to let history judge

Why is it accepted that they own the media, but we cannot accept that they own the polling companies??

haven't any of you thought of where you could move to to get away from what's becoming/become of this nation. I daydream about it, but would have to leave my family. Can we still say this is the worst country in the world except for all the others. I hate *, * Lackeys, Repukes, Neocons, Religious Extremists, The "Liberal" Media, and, of course, The Supremes, plus.

And, as to your question, what we have here is, as you so aptly pondered, ignorant,
and dumbed-down, and then there's us the disgusted, angry, and dumb-founded.

Wow, my very first baby rant! :smoke: I always start with my toes.

Mods: Why is my bolding one word, taking over everything thereafter?

Ownership of the media and hate-radio 24/7.

You don't really think the great public actually follows politics? When the polls showed that 70% of the public thought Iraq was responsible for 9-11, I gave up giving the public any credit. It's as though Bushies hypnotized 70% of the public with the bandwagon not- stop carnival show.

Most are just plain old fashioned ignorant .