Daniel Ellsberg speaks about Richard Clarke SFgate press

Mari333

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 10:37 PM
Original message

Daniel Ellsberg speaks about Richard Clarke SFgate press

Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 10:39 PM by Mari333

Ellsberg said the only real whistle-blower of recent times is Gun, who briefly faced charges under the British Official Secrets Act and supported her claims with documents.

"I find her really admirable," Ellsberg said, but he considers the rest remarkable, too, for being willing to go public in a way and with a speed that simply didn't occur 40 years ago.

"Why are they acting differently from people in my generation?" he said. "We knew (Vietnam) was just as deceptive and the policy was just as bad, but we certainly weren't tempted to leak."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/03/29/MNGK75SR5A1.DTL

Vietnam on Speed, as one University Professor said.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

bpilgrim

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 10:49 PM
Response to Original message

1. internet speed... thanks to GORE ;-)

Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 11:12 PM by bpilgrim

"I do think what Clarke has done is really unprecedented in our history: somebody who served as a national security adviser to the president stepping down and, while that president is still in office, blasting him," he said. "That just hasn't been done before."

I think clarkes 'papers' have the potential to be as damaging to the wh as his were :bounce:

thanks :hi:

peace

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Mari333

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #1

2. Unprecedented..people breaking ice all over

Edited on Mon Mar-29-04 10:57 PM by Mari333

and on top of that,Staff Sgt Camilio Mejia now going to be on 60 minutes II on Wed saying why he wont go back to Iraq. He is setting the precedent and breaking ice for others.
Vietnam on Speed, indeed.
Maybe we are evolving and learning from history. slow. not fast enough for me, as Michael stands in Iraq, but its happening.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

bpilgrim

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #2

3. "Why, you are all on fire!"

(Frederick Douglass) To a fellow-laborer, who urged him at this time to keep cool, saying, "Why, you are all on fire!" he answered, "Brother May, I have need to be all on fire, for I have mountains of ice about me to melt."

you remind me of the words 'semper fi'

:hi:

peace

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

buycitgo

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 11:26 PM
Response to Reply #3

4. geezzzz

thanks, billy......that choked me up

if anybody should know about that

can you imagine what he'd think today

would he think the BFEE is worse than the confederacy?

assuming he knew that the south lost, of course

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

bpilgrim

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #4

6. A Time to Break Silence

Edited on Tue Mar-30-04 12:01 AM by bpilgrim

"A time comes when silence is betrayal."

MLK in reference to vietnam...
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/058.html

I'm sure he and FD would have been in perfect agreement today.

I am reminded of what Maya Angelou says she does when she gets nervous about something, she conjures up in her mind all her sheros and heros and allows them to fill her heart with strength to face anything.

i think it is a good tecnique, certainly gives me strength, especially during these dark trying days and nights.

may they all come home ASAP.

:hi:

peace

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

Octafish

(1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore

Mon Mar-29-04 11:28 PM
Response to Original message

5. Clarke talking IS unprecedented.

The Pentagon, CIA, NSA, NRO, FBI, DoD, DoJ, and right on down the line to rat-catcher on the beat outside the BFEE turd Scalia's chambers have all crossed paths with Richard A. Clarke. They ALL know him for an honest man. Bush, on the other hand...

Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top

DU AdBot (1000+ posts)

Sun May 05th 2024, 10:50 PM
Response to Original message

Advertisements [?]

Top

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.