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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:04 PM
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One does not have to spend much time at FR before one hears murderous talk
To: threat matrix
Well, I guess we really should consider that the bottom line to all this silliness is that what they are doing is our "Daily Affirmation" (pun intended!) that President Bush is doing what is RIGHT for our Nation and our way of life.

After all, if they agreed with our President's course, I would have to have serious concerns about it, myself.

Does this make sense? It does to me.

Still, it is painful for me to go through life knowing I don't have the time or resources to choke the life out of each and every one of them.... :-)

(I'm walking away....whistling innocently.....)

603 posted on 03/31/2004 12:07:30 PM PST by Don Simmons


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I almost NEVER go on FR and it always astonishes me what Nazis they are. On the rare occasions I do go there, it usually takes me all of 15 minutes to find one of those fuckers fantasizing about murdering Liberals. This time it took only 3 min.

(in contrast, in all the hours I have spent on DU I have only ever seen ONE post fantasizing about random murder of Busheviks)

What absolute FUCKING NAZIS!

:mad: :grr: :grr: :mad:

Now, I know they are a bunch of gutless cowards. But so were the NAZIS and we KNOW that such gutless cowards will become murderers (like in Mississippi 1940s) if they don't fear investigation/prosecution/conviction.

Let us hope it never comes to that, though I am sure we all realize that IT COULD HAPPEN HERE!

To Don and all the other Freeper (w)ussies, let me make it perfectly clear:

If the random murder of liberals becomes apparent THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOU.

Continue your sick Nazi bluster all you like. Bring it into reality, and let's just say you are as mistaken about the grit and backbone of Liberals and Left-Moderates as you were about the Yankees 143 years ago.



Let us all here at DU pray that these assholes will never be mean and dumb and animalistsic enough to test it out.

NOTE: I hate to make a post like this, talking like a Fake Internet Tough Guy, but I am :puke: SICK of hearing these Brownshirts dreaming of what they are going to do to us when they can do so in a way that doesn't frighten their cowardly Brownshirt souls!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:09 PM
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1. I May Be A Liberal
But I'll tell you what, I can and would handily beat the shit out of any one of those cowards if it ever came to it...

This liberal can kick some serious ass if necessary...
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:11 PM
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3. I didn't post this to solicit tough talk
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 04:14 PM by tom_paine
Besides, as someone who isn't a Tough Guy but has known some very real Tough Guys, someone with True Grit usually doesn't say a thing.

I don't know why I posted this. It's a rant. I am just sooo sick and tired of these (w)ussies and their chickenshit threats and innuendo, particularly considering that such stuff rarely, if ever, happens here.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:41 PM
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29. Because you "didn't solicit' such talk...so what, it's on my mind, all
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 03:47 PM by Zinfandel
the time, about what fucking cowards these same people are, kicking the shit out of someone simply because he's Gay or has a different opinion of the asshole Bush, or running down protesters they don't agree with, or killing good people because they speak the truth.

So fucking what you don't have the body to be tough...that's not what it takes for a man to be tough and strong man, not having a wimpy mind would help, immesely...

Yes, the bullshit of the true grit john Wayne type or strong silent type Clint Eastwood will eventually win in the end...What a joke!!!!

No, dude, solicitation or not...first I like to intelligently verbalize what stupid fucks they are, then rip out their fucking fascist cowards lungs...for you to disapprove of.

I'm am and have been your ugly nightmare a extremely liberal progressive who loves to piss in republicans faces.

So I'm not a bit more gentle oh the darn little freepers at NR
I should just stand back and be oh so shocked and amazed (and then politely comment on it).

Everything written on here is some unlining disguised solicitation, like it or not.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:22 PM
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31. Not bullshit, that True Grit
I wasn't talking about some dumbass actors.

I was talking about real living breathing people I know.

One frend of mine like that, a tough-ass boxer (and brilliant scientist in defiance of stereo type) and strong man who has been in many fights in his younger days (including street fights) always used to say to me,

"When I stepped into the ring with guys who talked a lot, I never said anything. The more they talked, almost always the faster they went down."

I trust you get my point. I agree about the bullshit legend of Strong/Silent Hollywood Bullshit. Agree totally.

I am saying that, in my experience, every single Real Tough Guy I ever knew never said much before a fight in the way of boasting, etc. That doesn't mean they were/are Strong/Silent Stereotypes. Other than when they were in fights, some of my firends were/are quite locquacious and voluble.

As for myself, I didn't say I'm a small man or that I am weak. I can hold my own in a scrap if I'm forced to.

I just know that I don't deserve the appellation of Tough Guy because I have known the real thing and I ain't that.

And rant away. I am going to assume that some of your wrath that sounded like it was directed at me was directed at the Freeps.

'Cause if you think I've got a "wimpy mind" then surely you must not have read my original thread-starting post.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:33 PM
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32. Well
All I gotta say is you've never met me except online. In a situation face to face my actions always do the talking. Online, all I got is words.

I'm not trying to sound like a tough guy, I could care less. So, whatever...:shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:40 PM
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33. Whoa Whoa Whoa...I wasn't trying to insult you
I was responding to the last person's comments, not you. You are correct in that I don't know you.

My response to your post was specifically designed to discourage this thread from becoming a juvenile "I'll kick their asses!" thread.

My apologies if I offended you. I wasn't trying to harsh on you.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:46 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. No Worries!
Seemed like as good a place as any to talk shit! ;-)
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #31
36. Yes, you are correct,...
Edited on Thu Apr-01-04 06:20 PM by Zinfandel
(I just got back form a job estimate, so I'll try and get back into that frame of mind again).

...much of what I posted was indeed aimed at freepers, in so much as I don't believe the post you were originally responding to was anything more than the same. And I assumed there would be more understanding and respect to how different each feels and responses in this forum, some with inner sincere anger, frustration and logic, some outwardly.

I perhaps, just mis-took it as an insult to ones passion and emotion and how a gut reaction should not be written off or criticized as mob mentality.

I understand your concern, to avoid your thread going into a blind detour of emotional discourse.

However, sometimes, that becomes ones first reaction, spontaneous reaction...and I suppose I immediate went with that as controlling and minipulating in your non solicitation post. And as I saw it (then)...let the emotions fly if it's real and from the heart.

I didn't feel it was going to be detrimental to the thread. Most here are sensitive and intelligent enough to understand outrage, passion and even the need to get out frustration with a kick to a freepers head, (figuratively, not literally).

And now...after going out (for the estimate) and coming back in, how differently I feel...

As I paraphase..."They gave me 10,000 volts and now, I'm as gentle as a lamb, the next woman that takes me on is going to light up light a pinball machine and pay off in silver dollars".



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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. That's cool. No prob
This is a touchy subject and a touchy topic. I don't think this nation has been so seething with hatred towards each other since 1859.

You response is therefore, totally understandable.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:11 PM
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2. its all internet bluster
cowards hiding behind their keyboards pretending to be bad ass. look at their "pro war rallies" the threads about them seem to consist mainly of people making excuses about why they cant go.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:14 PM
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4. I've got more balls than those guys
and I'm a Nancy girl!
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:24 PM
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5. Fits the Internet Fuckwad Theory
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Love that cartoon
Unfortunately, it hits home. To be honest, undoubtedly we ALL (or alomost all) of us have a bit of Internet Fuckwad in us.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:24 PM
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6. these people are HAPPY THAT 9/11 HAPPENED
gives them a 'with us er against us' official shut-up-a-lib bullshit excuse to paint us all as traitors

makes them feel superior, for the first time in their lives


freepers danced as the towers fell, knowing the rhetorical weapon it would give them


funny how they claim to love freedom so much, but desire to kill people because they have a different opinion.

You can't get any more un-American than a freeper, people
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:06 PM
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12. I don't agree with the dancing bit
I think that was a day (at least I hope) that every american felt horror and sorrow.

However, I VERY MUCH AGREE with this: "funny how they claim to love freedom so much, but desire to kill people because they have a different opinion."

People whose main page claims to 'uphold the constitution' ought to go read exactly what it says. The amount of hate there disgusts me. I may not agree, but I don't go around professing to hate every republican, or conservative, for their beliefs. That undermines the very ideas we are trying to promote- namely, free discourse, sharing of ideas, and learning how to accomodate a wide range of needs in this country, without alienating any groups. </rant>
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:25 PM
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7. yeah!
let's get them first. We're smarter than they are. Shouldn't be too tough.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:28 PM
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8. What the hell is THAT supposed to mean?
If you think I'm advocating anything like that, you need to proceed to the nearest Mental Health Facility.

:crazy: :silly: :silly: :crazy:

"We're smarter than they are."

:wtf: :wtf:

You know who that sounds like? I can't say or I'll catch a warning.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 12:32 PM
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20. lame sarcasm
time to go preemptive on them.

We KNOW they have weapons of mental deficiency over there.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:03 PM
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22. Too lame and too sarcastic for a serious topic as this
And thinking you're smarter or better than anyone else is a slippery slope to hell, and being like the people we hate.

Let's keep things in perspective here.

And I don't EVER want to hear talk of "going preemptive", even in jest. Not only is the OHS monitoring us, but even if it wasn't, that is WRONG and I will NEVER endorse such a thing.

Fighting back is one thing (and God Help Us All if it comes to that, just like in 1861), "preventative preemption" is Bushevikism most foul and JUST PLAIN WRONG.

Please don't ever talk like that to me, even in jest.

Usually I have an easygoing sense of humor. NOT about this, which is no laughing matter.

Sorry, leftofthedial, I'm afraid I must give both of your posts

:thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 02:58 PM
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26. reconsider the work of the man you borrowed your handle from
is my advice.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:15 PM
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27. As you wish. Agree to disagree.
n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:43 PM
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10. And they are the types of folks in control of the U.S. federal government,
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 04:43 PM by w4rma
currently. :shrug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 04:51 PM
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11. I know, but Regular Americans actually do most of the grunt work
Many would be VERY uncomfortable with an abrogation of the Law Enforcement duties so severe as to turn Amerika into 1940s Mississippi with the Busheviks as the Mississippi White Guys and the rest of us as the (RACIAL EPITHET REDACTED)s.

That is truly our best hope for avoiding this horrible scenario, that the Average Americans who make our nation go every day won't buy into this and, in fact, would be repulsed.

If Bunnypants* re-steals the Imperial Throne, it may well be the only hope we have remaining...
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:09 PM
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13. The attack levels that occured in our community against my husband
and I on the roadways and in the parking lots have decreased since I wrote a column decrying the people in our town who did it. I put the cockroaches into the light , so to speak, and hopefully shamed them. The last straw was the morning my husband found out Michael had mortar attacks in Baghdad occuring, and he went to the store and was almost run off the road by some Freeper who didnt like our bumper stickers against the war. That was it.
The column was printed in a right wing newspaper oddly enough,. so the editors themselves were aghast, it seems, at the behaviour of the citizenry who would attack a military family against the war.
Expose them to the light, the cowards back off.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:29 PM
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14. Have I ever told you, Mari, that you and your husband are brave people?
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 05:34 PM by tom_paine
You are True & Sterling Americans in ways that ANYONE (even those on our side who do this) who blindly follows someone without question or critical thought could NEVER understand.

You are right about cockroaches and light, though.

God Bless you and your husband, Mari, and may you and your son in Iraq remain safe.

When I think about people like you guys, I really start to think we can turn this thing around and that maybe Historical Trend regarding Republics Transforming into Totalitarian Empires is gonna get set on it's ear this time around.

Your quiet bravery in the face of much worse than I have yet had to face (my Kerry bumper stickers go on soon) shames me for the angry post that kicked this thread off.

You're aces, sweetheart! Keep up the good work!

:toast: :toast: :toast:
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:53 PM
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15. he probably means it. and would do it.
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 06:02 PM by enki23
so long as his group outnumbered the others about three to one. more if the other group isn't at least half children.

we've seen it happen often enough around the world. these assholes aren't any different than any of the others simply because they happen to be born in the middle of north america. many, most, of them would be glad to throw rocks and kick a victim in the head.

a group of these tough guys met our small war protest in baton rouge louisiana. they were all decked out in leather, a bunch of bikers and some few others, and they outnumbered us. they were led by a local "conservative" radio dj, who actually called for our death. said we should be shot in the head. he wasn't joking, he was fantasizing. we were largely made up of women and children. these people have no shame, no decency. they're just angry, and too fucking stupid to direct that anger where it actually belongs. and they're dangerous. they'd kill us if they could. that's who they are. these people are always the same, across the planet and down from the earliest histories we have. they don't change, and they are always wrong. we have to be smarter than them, because we aren't "tougher" or meaner than them.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 05:59 PM
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16. Yes, I know. "Kidding on the square"
Al Franken does a nice piece in his book on the Busheviks and their "jokes".

Did they harm you, enki? Did the cops step in and aide you or did they hold the women and children down while the gutless Freepers pummeled you?

NOTE TO OHS: Even if that did happen, I have no intention of doing anything about it. Just so you know, I ask this question out of curiosity.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:00 PM
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17. bad as some of the cops down here are, we were glad for them
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 06:06 PM by enki23
had they not been present, god knows what would have happened. as it was, there was just a little shoving and a lot of shouting. i'm pretty sure the cops were there at our request. that turned out to be a good idea. they weren't very quick to act, not big on us war protester types, but they aren't that far gone quite yet.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:15 PM
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18. Good. I am happy to hear that
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 06:21 PM by tom_paine
And, my apologies if this offends you, but if something like that does happen, it would first be in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, or Forsythe County, Georgia.

My apologies to all the Good and Decent People in the South, but that is how I see it.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-04 06:43 PM
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19. i don't doubt that for a minute
Edited on Wed Mar-31-04 06:48 PM by enki23
i'm not originally from here, and i'll be gone in a year. there's a lot of anger here, and it's not really surprising. the south is in bad shape. everything down here is just a little bit shittier than it is elsewhere in the country. there are exceptions, sure, but they mostly just remind you they're exceptions. there's no money here, not many resources, few opportunities for anyone who isn't born well. i live on the outskirts of a slum, the poor white and foreign student slum on the outskirts of the *truly* poor black-populated slum. a couple streets away, mansions. university administration mansions and lily-white frats and sororities--they live in mansions here--on a lake. just a few blocks away. across the lot from me, it's black slums. it's like living in mexico city.

a lot of anger here, and plenty of reason for poor whites here to be angry. that anger is completely misdirected. some against blacks, who have absolutely *nothing* to do with their sorry state, and some against liberals and foreigners. equally stupid. the frats and sororities run the student paper here. they carry one syndicated columnist: bill o'reilly. the children of privilege are all republicans here, and mostly elsewhere as well. i have no patience with "liberal elite" bullshit anymore. none at all.

thing i can't understand is, why isn't there more anger among the black population? it might be there, but i don't see much of it. it seems less, to my admittedly naive eye, than other cities i've seen. less militancy. i wonder if it's just simmering below the surface. if i were born a black man in the south, i'd be goddamned angry. i'd be murderous angry. i'm angry and i know i can't see *half* the shit there is to see around here.

i'm getting out of here before i get caught in the middle of something. nothing here makes sense to me.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 12:54 PM
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21. I lived in New Orleans for five years....
This sounds exactly like my experience there.

And I lived in Nashville, which was fucking HELL. Coworkers wouldn't talk to me because they knew I was liberal. I heard guys talking about killing anyone who went to a anti-war protest. I heard guys talking about setting up internment camps for liberals......Why the hell the South hates Democrats is beyond me, unless one wants to "go there," metaphorically speaking, and admit that a lot of people there are very gullible and will believe anything G. Gordon Liddy tells them.

So much of the hatred of the South towards the North is based on some flimsy, abstract nerve-ruffler like, "they come down here and try to tell us what to do!" Well, if you're doing something WRONG and it's fucking up your life and the lives of those around you, frankly, I'd welcome the advice. Certainly, voting republican has really paid off huge dividends in the South (very heavy sarcasm...)

Thank fuckin' God I live in Chicago now, where there's a lot more sanity.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:38 PM
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25. I like Chicago. Good town. Good People.
Though to be honest there are good people EVERYWHERE, even in the deepest heart of Bushevik Country.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:04 PM
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23. Sounds like most of the people...
... I knew when I lived in Memphis.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 01:10 PM
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24. "Daily Affirmation (pun intended)???
OK, what am I missing here? What exactly was the pun? Is there some context missing?
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:36 PM
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28. The majority are a buch of pussies,
who have never gone at it one on one with another person. These are the same people who shit their pants whenever they see a black or brown person walking towards them. Fuck 'em and their little delusional fantasies.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 03:46 PM
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30. Pity...
On the rare occasions I do go there, it usually takes me all of 15 minutes to find one of those fuckers fantasizing about murdering Liberals. This time it took only 3 min.

It's all they know.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-04 04:49 PM
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35. well from my point of view
they carry out their threats -- randall weaver, timothy mcveigh; then there are the people who give them their marching orders, falwell, robertson, rush etc.
they pop off but they are known to go off on a regular basis.
they do have one thing in common -- they like to do it and run away before someone catches them.
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