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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:42 AM
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McCain slams GOP - Says they've gone astray on several issues
http://news.bostonherald.com/election2004/view.bg?articleid=1611

WASHINGTON - Sen. John McCain yesterday unleashed an attack on his own party, saying the GOP is ``astray'' on key issues and criticizing President Bush on the war in Iraq.

"I believe my party has gone astray,'' McCain said, criticizing GOP stands on environmental and minority issues.

`I think the Democratic Party is a fine party, and I have no problems with it, in their views and their philosophy,'' he said. ``But I also feel the Republican Party can be brought back to the principles I articulated before.'' (More in link)

All I can say is DAMN!!


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:43 AM
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1. Hey, John, Come on Over, the Waters Fine!
n/t
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:45 AM
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5. Really!
He will always have my admiration for saying (paraphrasing here) during the 200 primaries, "I felt much safer in that POW camp, knowing George Bush was patrolling the Texas coast."
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:50 AM
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10. Yeah that was a good one...he needs to speak out more
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:44 AM
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2. well he should just jump ship
and become a democrat--or at least an Independent like Jeffords who caucuses with the Democrats.
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annxburns Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:44 AM
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3. Anyone doubt now ...
... that he wants VP. "The Democratic Party is a fine party and I have no problem with it" HELLO.

(By the way, I am not saying I want him as VP. I have mixed feelings about the dude.)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:50 AM
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9. He could be a good VP
The problem is how does he vote on tie-breaking votes and what happens if something happens to Kerry. McCain says he doesn't want it anyway.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:35 PM
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35. Sounds like McCain is laying the ground work to be Kerry's VP
I am not saying I am for or against this, but that is the way I see it.

"The Democratic Party is a fine party and I have no problem with it"
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:40 PM
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44. You ARE saying he wants to be VP ...
Even after he plainly stated he did not want to be VP ...

Hmmmmmmmmmm .....
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Streetdoc270 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:45 AM
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4. Could we trade Zell for McCain?
It looks like he is trying for a spot in the Kerry Administration if not the VP spot itself.... How interesting would a 'mixed marrage' ticket of Dem/Repub be for voters? Even more interesting is how hard would it be to work for a Kerry/McCain combo?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:54 AM
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14. We polled that a while ago. 85% would do that.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=882838
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:57 AM
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18. It Wouldn't Be Hard at all
Our country is being raped now by the NEOCONS.
ABB and his VULCANS
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:58 PM
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39. Why on earth would you want a Bush team member on our ticket???
He has supported Bush every step of the way. He IS a neocon! He just plays the role of a moderate. Are you going to let them con you again? Remember neocon Joe Lieberman on the ticket? Why do you want to put another one on???

He fully supports Bush, these are just BS words. Don't be suckered again! How many times can McCain suck you in?
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:46 AM
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6. I think he's part of a broad potential united front.
left/center/center-right. Honest conservatives that care about the country's future more than some ideological agenda have to consider their loyalties right now.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:48 AM
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8. Bush and friends are not conservatives
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 10:49 AM by Bleachers7
They are hard right, radical/fascist. Everyone including McCain and half the pukes are to the left of them.
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:52 AM
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13. Yes McCain
I left the republican Fiasco because of what they did to you in SC. That is what opened up my eyes. While you are at it bring along other moderates that are going to be destroyed anyway if they stay. Come on over, Chayfee, Collins, Snow, and even Specter who they have already started targeting.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:55 AM
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16. Yep
McCain's a real conservative...he's not Trent Lott or Tom DeLay. He's using common sense through all this--something the neocon right doesn't use.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:47 AM
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7. Damn... I love John
He isn't perfect, but he has guts.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:50 AM
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11. I wish we could use him on our ticket
without worrying about him becoming the president himself if anything happened.
Many people don't know this but McCain isn't very trustworthy. He will tell you one thing to your face and then have one of his aids tell you another thing.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:52 AM
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12. McCain is either baiting Bush to get some concessions or he is
getting ready to back Kerry. Probably the former though we can always hope.
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:54 AM
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15. Should write to him asking him if he would change party?
He spoke up a couple of times against Bush and in stood up for Kerry and the Democratic Party.

He is one of the only Republicans I respect (besides Richard Clarke).
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:22 PM
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34. how about
Hagle, he has been criticizing Bush's FP for quite some time now.
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Doomsayer13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:55 AM
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17. its payback time for John McCain
after the horrible smearing Bushco did to his character, I don't blame him.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:58 AM
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19. The only time I voted was for a republican
2000 primary for McCain.

I don't agree with all his views, I think he is too far right. However he is sane which says a lot these days.

I don't think he should switch parties, we need a multiparty system, the republican party needs to be saved from this neocon nightmare.

I wouldn't mind a split ticket though. Kerry/McCain as a Dem/Rep fighting to take our country back from the madmen.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:59 AM
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20. McCain's a conservative-centrist...

Those people have no place in today's neo-con fundamentalist dominated GOP.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 10:59 AM
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21. McCain is an honorable man and a True Patriot
Which is why the Freeps hate him with their murderous, cowardly rage.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:01 AM
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22. I was sure it was because we are ONLY spending 50% of the
discretionary budget on the "offense" budget!!

Love his zingers and occasional criticisms of the admin, but this guy is a dyed-in-the-wool repug. Wth ALL that that entails. How many times has he voted AGAINST what Bush wanted? There's the rub.
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:06 AM
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23. are we forgetting
what day yesterday was?
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:12 AM
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26. The article's from today....
:-)
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:04 PM
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40. Admittedly, McCain's remarks were from April 1st
But he pronounced them at a public meeting which I think blows away any theories that it was an April Fool's "gotcha".

The FReeps are pissed as hell so I don't think they see it as an April Fool's either.
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:44 PM
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46. it's just kinda surprising
based on his fundamental policy differences with democrats (i.e., war is good, cutting taxes is always good . . . etc).

maybe it says more about what's become of the democratic party lately, as compared to mr. mccain.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:07 AM
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24. When Bush was flying high, McCain was shining his shoes.
And telling us what a great leader Shrub is. Now that the emperor has stumbled, McCain takes some shots. Big deal. We need people who don't blow with the wind. McCain lost his vertabrae a long time ago.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:08 PM
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31. I agree
I was rooting for McCain over Bush in the Republican primary but seeing him propping up this regime over the past 3 years, I lost pretty much any respect I had for him.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:10 AM
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25. He should stop fantacizing ...
and become a Democrat.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:12 AM
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27. get real, folks. mccain is a RW maniac like the rest
ask him what he thinks about gitmo.

just coz he's not a made memeber of the BFEE does mean he's something dems should want to embrace.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:05 PM
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30. He's not that bad.
Democrats like him. Besides, what kind of dem do you prefer, the McCain kind or the Zell kind?
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:12 PM
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32. I'd take McCain over Zell Miller anyday!
:bounce:
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:42 PM
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36. And just because he's a Republican
doesn't means he's a RW maniac.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:13 AM
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28. "Yes John,"...the grass is really greener on the other side.
It's all dead and brown from all the Bull S* being thrown and Delay's insecticide. Come over here where the sun shines and there is hope for the future. Everything is green and filled with colorful flowers. (or did I dream that?) Make the right choice! Ask Jim Jeffords!
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Slug Spills Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 11:23 AM
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29. Why?
Why does he not change his party? It only makes sense.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:13 PM
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33. yawn
he's still campaigning for *, isn't he? He said after * trashed him in 2000, "My party is my life". Just blowing smoke.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:50 PM
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37. John won't jump. He personally has too much to lose.
He's Chairman on quite a few IMPORTANT Committees. If he jumped ship, he'd lose that power. I happen to think he's great just where he is. He has the power to get things out of committee where the minority does not. Normal people on both sides listen to him, and he gets a lot of TV face time because of being a Sr. Senator an, yes, being a Republican.

Stay where you are John, but KEEP TALKING!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 01:54 PM
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38. Astray???? Not the word I would use. Besides, most of the GOP
fantasies have come true and it is the hell "liberals" have said it would be.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:08 PM
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41. picking my jaw off the floor
I can't help but respect this cat McCain , as much as
I dissagree with him on some things .

He speaks his peace truthfully and that I respect .
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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:16 PM
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42. McCain is a Republican
and I don't want him anywhere near us. Just yesterday, he voted to NOT allow a vote on increasing the minimum wage, overtime, and extending unemployment compensation. So did my two Senators, Specter and Santorum. These guys suck.

When Senator Byrd was honored on the Floor of the Senate for his 17,000th vote yesterday, only ONE Republican made a tribute. It was Senator Mike DeWine from Ohio. And I figure he was just trying to cover his butt for the Fall elections.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:36 PM
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43. A Canadian POV
As an outsider looking in thru the fog of America, I think Kerry needs to be joined at the hip with someone that is respected both inside and outside America to have any reasonable chance in our lifetime of reversing the damage by *. Even if you exclude the outer world, America itself is deeply divided and those wounds won't heal quickly. Take a page from Manadela ... when he overwhelming won the first all-races elections in 1994 who did he appoint as his VP? F.W. FW de Klerk, the former prime minister of SA.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:43 PM
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45. PS: I just wrote McCain
and reminded him of the Mandela-De Klerk brotherhood.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 02:47 PM
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47. Do I hear a Kerry endorsement soon?
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