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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:01 PM
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This is not to smash Randi
I've been a fan of hers for over two years now.

It's not about how she treated Nader. (right on in my book)

It's how she treats liberal callers who aren't as up-to-date as she is. Listen today and tell me I'm wrong. I've listened to her for close to two years, so I'm not Anti-Randi, just that she needs to be a bit nicer to her sympathetic callers.

I'll still listen though.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:03 PM
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1. I can understand her exasperation
speaking as a domineering, impatient type

:D
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:03 PM
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2. Why should she be nicer to callers?
I don't know WHY you think she should be nicer to the callers. Is there some good that will be accomplished if she is nicer to the callers, or is this just something you would like to see?
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:07 PM
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5. Listen...
she makes fun of sincere callers.

The cat lady comes to mind.

I don't have a problem with anything else she does, but compared to Malloy she has a horrible connection with the newbies, imo.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:10 PM
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9. They need Mike Malloy
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:19 PM
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14. Malloy was fired. Welcome to Broadcasting.
Getting fired in broadcasting is like getting fired in coaching. It's part of the job, and it happens regularly.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:52 PM
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27. question
What was Malloy fired for?
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:01 PM
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32. I think the satellite network he worked for went out of business.
And the original poster is right; radio people lose their jobs all the time! I personally lost three sepoarate jobs in the early '90s and not because I did anything wrong. One station replaced all of its on-air staff with automation, while the other two went with a satellite feed.

Now you know why I got the fuck out of commercial radio in 1995!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:04 PM
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35. He wasn't fired. The network went dark.
IEAmerica was funded by a big labor union, and they decided to pull funding, and they had to close the doors.

I used to do the news for IEA. It was a sad day when it went dark.

Here's hoping Mike finds a radio gig soon. I miss hearing him.

-as
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:17 PM
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41. thanks for the reply
hope he finds employment quickly...and maybe even on AirAm? :)
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
57. Malloy was employed by "ieamerica" radio network...
which was owned by the United Auto Workers and they wanted out of the radio business! So technically...he was not fired!
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:12 PM
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11. I've listened
and I know how she can be with callers. SO now, let me ask you again:

What good would come from her being nicer to callers, or is this more about your own sense of decorum and etiquette?
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:48 PM
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46. I agree, as a new listener
I have to admit I am a bit turned off by her manner. It's just unnecessary to be insulting when someone is being sincere, albeit not well informed.

It's a new radio station, and like it or not, a lot of people will be listening who aren't accostomed to her brusque manner. In the beginning, I think it's important for the sake of the station as a whole, not to come across as contemptuous of your callers.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:56 PM
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29. Check out this post
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:59 PM
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31. I don't get it
Do you think the callers are "friends" of Randi's?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:03 PM
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3. It appears there is a learning curve even for the old timers...
She just needs to be herself... People want to be entertained at someone else's expense... :)
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:07 PM
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6. long time listener too
i think she is a little more high strung and impatient lately.
she has had a lof of changes in her personal and professional life recently, maybe she will get a more relaxed with time.

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:21 PM
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16. Agree. Have listened to Randi in FL for a year. She needs
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:22 PM by caledesi
to calm down a little bit, bec she does know her stuff. She always has the FACTS.

As an aside, where is Mike Malloy? And why wasn't he "invited to the party?"
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:06 PM
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4. As I said
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:07 PM by hiphopnation23
I could listen to her rant for three hours sans callers. Don't know that the call in segmant is really "key" to the like-ability of the show for me.

Then again, I've only been listening for two days, not two years.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:08 PM
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7. She does not suffer fools gladly
I for one am grateful for that. I think it is great that she doesn't let dumb misinformred callers ramble on and on ruining her show, even if they agree with her.

She holds her callers to a standard and I think thats a good thing.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:09 PM
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8. she's playing that stupid boobies song again?? i thought she retired it...
great. i think a quarter million listeners just flipped the dial...
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:14 PM
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12. Yeah right
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:15 PM by rpalochko
She would have been even higher than #1 all these years if only she knew as much about radio as you.
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codegreen Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:16 PM
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13. i love Randi. she could scream less and drop the song, s'all i'm sayin'...
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
18. I like the stupid boobies song
It's cute, funny, and has 'tude, just like Randi.

Julie
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:10 PM
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10. I've noticed that about her for a long time, and I rarely listen in...
...because she does it so regularly. It comes off as obnoxious and tin-eared. Another one who does it, although not as frequently, is Bernie Ward at KGO.
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gttim Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:19 PM
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15.  I can't listen to her.
I just cannot listen to her for more than a few minutes. It sounds like she is yelling all the time. She is also very dismissive. Luckily KPOJ is broadcasting Ed Schultz in her place. I was dissapointed about that at first, but then when I realized I like him much better, I thought "cool."
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:21 PM
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17. Thank You!
Thank you for spending your time constructively and finding a liberal host you like instead of pissing and moaning about how terrible the one you didn't like was.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:38 PM
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20. Hey Mouse,
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:40 PM by khephra
At least reference my posts when you shit on them.

You won't find me "pissing and moaning about how terrible the one you didn't like was."

Speak for yourself.

I'vw been listening to Randi for two years now. I think I have room enough to say what she is doing right and what she's doing wrong.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #20
25. I'd think
he was talking about bobbyboucher..
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #15
23. I have the same feeling-
It makes me really uncomfortable when someone is yelling
all the time.
I can't listen to her either.
I had never heard her before and so I was looking forward
to her show on AA, but fifteen minutes was my limit- I switched
her off after that, and will continue to avoid her broadcast like
the plague. I know some people really like her-but I can't
handle the constant barrage of insults and shouting.
Too much like Rush ranting for my taste.
However I really like the other folks on AA.
Who is Ed Schultz?
BHN
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 03:34 PM
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19. Soooooo...
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 03:34 PM by khephra
I told you I liked her, but I have ONE problem with her show?

Sheesh.

I guess you've never heard of the term "Constructive Criticism" before?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:03 PM
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21. Why is it a problem?
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 04:04 PM by sangh0
What good would come from her being nicer to her call-ins, or is this more a matter of your own personal preferences?

I ask because your post implies you want to be constructive. I'm wondering how this "constructive" criticism would help.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:58 PM
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48. What good would come from it?
New listeners, who might be enlightened by the message, will be turned off by the messenger. What's the point of having a liberal radio show that preaches to the choir? It's important to get the message out to a wide audience, not just the people who already know about her and agree with her politics.

Also, what good comes from being rude? I like confrontational hosts, but to be insulting just for the hell of it is kind of pointless. I'm NOT saying she has to be sweet and passive, but she'd win more converts if she would tone it down a bit.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:02 PM
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33. the defensiveness is understandable, but still kinda weird
I've refrained from commenting to avoid just this kind of overreaction - but (cough, lowers voice) she's uh... not to my taste. I uh... much prefer Garofalo's style and sense of humor.

Forgive me father, for I have sinned.

Sinners in the hands of angry radio fans!
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:32 PM
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22. I just heard her cut off a guy who couldn't get a word in
I like her too, but she is too overbearing.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. That's IT- overbearing.
There is no ebb and flow, no space- just
a freight train roaring non-stop.
I enjoy talk radio for the discourse and sharing of thoughts.
I love an intelligent debate with mutual exchange.
It's a one way street with Ms. Rhodes, more like a monologue.
Maybe that is how she should format her program because
she is not a good listener as far as callers or guests go.

BHN
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:51 PM
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26. "I enjoy talk radio for the discourse and sharing of thoughts."
And some enjoy the spectacle. Unless you think elections are won by appealing only to people who are just like you, why get so worked up about Randi?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:55 PM
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28. When did I say that?
That elections are won by appealing only to people like me?
I never said that at all.

Please do not put words in my mouth.
I DO NOT enjoy spectacle.
Power to those that do.
BHN
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #28
30. Who said you said that?
That elections are won by appealing only to people like me?
I never said that at all.


You never said that, and I never said you did. But your argument basically works out to "I don't like the way Randi Rhodes is rude to callers, so she should stop it"

I DO NOT enjoy spectacle.
Power to those that do.


Then why criticize when Randi serves those people? This is now the 2nd day in a row that you have been repeating your displeasure with Randi and how she handles callers. If you wre sincere in saying "Power to those that do" then why are you criticizing their preference so vociforouosly?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #30
34. not nearly as vociferously as your overreaction
relax, no one is being crucified or castigated.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #30
38. If you will notice...
I was agreeing with another poster.
Am I not allowed to agree with someone who shares my views?
Am I not allowed to express why I don't like her show?
Have I told anyone else not to listen?
Don't think so.
Why don't you just start a
"Let's Bash BHN for Expressing Her Feelings" forum?
I REALLy did not enjoy what I heard of her-
Is there some DU rule about me agreeing with
someone else who feels the same way on this thread?

BHN
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:11 PM
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39. All your questions avoid the point
which is why you are so determined to spread the idea that Randi Rhodes show is bad, when the truth is, you don't like it.

was agreeing with another poster.

Did I say anything different?

Am I not allowed to agree with someone who shares my views?

Did I say you weren't allowed, or is that I'm not allowed to share MY view?

Am I not allowed to express why I don't like her show?

Did I say you weren't allowed, or is that I'm not allowed to share MY view?

Have I told anyone else not to listen?

Did I say you said that?

Why don't you just start a
"Let's Bash BHN for Expressing Her Feelings" forum?


Does you feel persecuted because, like you, I post my opinions?

Here's a thought - This is the sort of reasoned debate you claim to like.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:22 PM
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42. Here is an idea-
I have expressed why I don't listen to Randi- that is all.
You have expressed all sorts of things about my doing that.
Why don't you express why you DO like Randi?
You are sharing views about my posts on the topic.
Why do you feel such a need to dissect everything I say.
as if I had some dark ulterior motive?
Why are you so obsessed with what I think?
Who cares?
Why do you care so much?
I really don't give a darn if you like Randi, it does not
affect me one way or the other.
If you want to go into how much you DO like her,
I simply will have no comment- I don't care.
I do however reserve the right to post in agreement with
someone who feels the same way I do without being ripped
apart!
BHN
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. Well put!
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:28 PM
Response to Reply #39
43. BTW...WHAT point?
I made my point- I don't like the Randi Rhodes show!
WHAT point are you talking about?
Your opinions are about me and my motives
for agreeing with someone who shares my feeling,
And so YES I do feel persecuted.
And somewhat creeped out frankly.
It seems to really bother you that I don't like the show
and have said as much.
You know, other posters on this thread have expressed
similar views to mine so WHY have you singled me out?
Don't you think that is sort of weird?
I do- it feels personal to me.
BHN
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Interesting that you say
I was criticizing those who do like her.
Where did I say that?
I think this is more about you than me.
You have implied things about what I posted
to someone in agreement that simply are not there.
I think you have projected here.
Please produce the sentence from my post where
I am critical of someone who does like Randi?
It isn't there- I have only discussed my views and why
I have them.
BHN
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #26
58. sangho, you are way off base and overbearing. nt
The criticism here is constructive seen.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 08:17 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. Thanks for that-
I was starting to think it was just me.
Since when are DU members not permitted to express
differing opinions without persecution for having diverse opinions?
I admit that I knee-jerked after several prosecutory threads
two days ago for saying I did not like the show- BUT, I did apologize
and own the behavior.
So far, I am alone in admitting wrong and
apologizing for that episode...

BHN
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:05 PM
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36. Well--jus t listening for a short time to Randi
Love this woman. Absolutely fantastic--no hold barred--and KNOWS her facts.

My favorite so far re the recently signed bill by Bush declaring if someone commits a federal crime against a pregnant woman and destroys a fetus at the same time, then they can be charged with two murders.

Randi--to paraphrase---and if they kill the woman, and the fetus survives they will be given a congressional medal of honor!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:05 PM
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37. I agree. This is the reason I cannot listen to her. Dare I say it but,
she reminds me too much of Dr.Youknowwho. :hi:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:31 PM
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44. Perhaps the silver lining is that now there is a variety
of hosts to match the variety of tastes.

Reading through this thread was interesting to say the least. I don't think people should have to defend or debate what they subjectively likeor don't like...and debating it isn't going to change it.

I myself REALLY prefer Guy James' show. I think AA really should pay attention to him, I think Guy is LIKABLE mainstream and smart. I also think he does an EXCELLENT job with conservative callers..moreso than any on air personality I've heard to date..he is a quick thinker..and very well informed.

At any rate..to my original point..a variety of personalities attracting a variety of tastes is a good thing.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. Amen!
THAT is the silver lining- something for everyone!
I have tried to tune into Guy so many times, but for some reason
I can't get him on my browser- too old I think.
I tried downloading a recent version, but was informed
by SBC they didn't support it-
Good to "see" ya-
Call me if you're ever in my neck of the woods!
BHN
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #45
47. I was just thinking about doing that!
Edited on Fri Apr-02-04 05:56 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
PM me and let me know what the next couple weeks is like..it would be great to see you..

BTW..as long as you have Windows media player you can get it but there are days when it doesn't go through..I have SBC and can access it.
Oh and don't forget to check the front page..Doug Decker is having another party.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #47
52. Sadly...
I will be in Chicago when DD is having his DU party...
Weekends are best for me-
'specially SUNDAYS!!!
Fek the PM, I'm gonna CALL your ass...Heh-heh
Long Time no TALK! Miss that.
BHN
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. I'm here..phone is attached to my head :-)
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:16 PM
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50. Kheph, Yeah thats my only one criticism about the show
But everything else about her and her show is F***KING GREAT!!
Ya know what I think it might be that Randi is just joshing around with her callers the way a Friend would. You how friends kid each other..I think with her New York accent it might come off a bit mean. I mean she really enjoys talking to the people who are just as fed up as she is and seems to have fun with callers. But yeah Ive heard a couple of calls where i was like wha? Or we could just be a bit too sensitive and need to toughen up a bit:)
But thats it shes has been doing nothing but great radio these past 3 days..I love that woman!!!!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:18 PM
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51. I listen, but then turn her off
her show is like dry toast. no conversation - just her unbearable ranting

she's basically an asshole

she cuts off callers and tells you what they were going to say

she talks so fast with so much sarcasm that you can't even tell what side of the issue she is on.

I much prefer Malloy - at least he is likeable - also Peter werbe is great.

she reminds me of an abrasive chainsmoker who is so disgusting they make you sick.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:28 PM
Response to Reply #51
54. Careful there-
You might draw the attention of the DU thought police.
Oh, no wait, they only like to attack me for not liking Randi-
Carry on...
BHN
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:27 PM
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53. Not directed so much at you khephra,
because I agree that sometimes Randi is too abrupt - but, guess what, who is the AA host who is drawing attention and controversy? Which one are we discussing the most?

Interesting that it seems to be Randi Rhodes. Could be why she's been a popular radio host for so many years.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #53
55. Good Point-
They say any press is good press!
I wish the discussion would stay on why people
do or don't like her though-
I'm sick of being attacked for saying I don't like her.
Seems the honor has been limited to me based on
a personal vendetta by a few posters.
What ever-
Guess I can be flattered by the fact that they
care so much what I think!
As if it matters?
BHN
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-02-04 08:16 PM
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59. I think someone should just give Randi a Ciggerette
That might calm her down a bit:) As a cig smoker I know you put someont in a room for 4 hours without a cig it can drive you crazy.
Or put her on the patch..Still I love that woman you get more information from her in 3 hours that a whole week of watching CNN..And thats a fact!
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