"Official Guy James Show Thread" Keep kicked please!

With all thats happened this week there's lots to talk about and we're going to kick some right-wing booty this afternoon. Listen live at www.theguyjamesshow.com or call in live toll free at 1-888-602-7500 or 7501, 7502, 7503, 7504 We need your calls because DU'ers are the most well informed of all website members.

Guy

I have a little to do with it but it helps to have plenty of show fans screaming loudly.

The one and only!!

Well then, BeachBuckeye, pleased to "meet" you. :toast:

Perhaps I'll call in to the show today, I've had some things on my mind. I have a historical parallel I'd like to talk about.

was concerned when you didn't reply to email earlier this week. hope you were taking some time for R&R...

AA should be broadcasting this rather than Al reruns.

I didn't get any mail from you Jeff

I was just letting you know that Al Franken opened his first broadcast with the "Ask not what..." that you use!

and his opening rant was also "guyjamesesque" and I wondered if he was a listener...

Good to see ya

I've got my tall glass of water and a sack of Jelly Belly candy. Ready for the broadcast!!!

Hi Vetwife! :yourock: And so does Guy James!

Yep...rock and Roll....Everyday, there is something else new
we can't believe.....Every single day.

Just made it home in time for the start of the show.

Please direct all comments to:

my2cents@airamericaradio.com

I've been hearing it so much, i'm starting to like it.

Now let's hope it doesn't bounce. My earlier emails bounced. Guess they were swamped!

I listened all week on the internet stream and noticed they had nothing all day Saturday.

be sure to give them the link to Guy's archive:

www.whiterosesociety.org

Recording!

Hehe!

These people have no shame

those 14 percent ! Very important

Elmer Fudd is a friend of mine. W is no Elmer Fudd, and please don't denigrate us cartoon characters by comparing us to W!

LOL, Saddam is going to use them in the future.

n/t

It is well known that he got a "Gentleman's C"

I just HAD to call and get in that caller's face.

blew the freeper away

that caller has called before with EXACTLY the same 'MBA' routine

MBA = Major Bullshit Accomplishment

similar to my BFA (Big F'ing Accomplisment)

One idiot caller spewing right wing talking points followed by three brilliant, articulate rebuttals (not to mention Guy's own rebuttal). Makes you wonder if there is any rational argument that could ever get through his thick skull.

3/27/01

Tax cuts will be implemented without budget
deficits, even in a recession

"...we can proceed with tax relief without
fear of budget deficits, even if the economy softens.
Projections for the surplus in my budget
are cautious and conservative. They already
assume an economic slowdown in the year 2001..."

3/3/01

Will not pass on our budget deficits
(borrowings) to future generations; we owe
this to our children and grandchildren

: "...Future generations shouldn't be
forced to pay back money that we have borrowed.
We pay back money that we have borrowed. We
owe this kind of responsibility to our children
and grandchildren..."

1/03

: "...we will not deny, we will not
ignore, we will not pass along our problems to
other Congresses, other presidents,
and other generations..."

2/27/01

Will retire $2 Trillion national debt in 10 years

"...We owe it to our children and
grandchildren to act now, and I hope you
will join me to pay down $2 trillion in debt
during the next 10 years. At the end of
those 10 years, we will have paid down all
the debt that is available to retire..."

"...It will retire nearly $1 trillion in debt
over the next four years. This will be the largest
debt reduction ever achieved by any
nation at any time..."

2/27/01

Will protect Social Security surplus in its entirety

"...To make sure the retirement savings of
America's seniors are not diverted into any other
program, my budget protects all $2.6 trillion of
the Social Security surplus for Social
Security and for Social Security alone..."

10/3/00

A promise made on safeguarding Social Security
surplus will be a promise kept

: "...The revenues exceed the expenses in Social
Security to the year 2015, which means all retirees
are going to get the promises made. So for those of
you who wants to scare into the voting booth
to vote for him, hear me loud and clear:
A promise made will be a promise kept..."

3/22/01

Will never dip into Social Security Surplus to
finance spending

"...For years, politicians in both
parties have dipped into the Trust Fund
to pay for more spending. And I will stop it..."

10/18/00

Will not spend more than Gore would

"...If this were a spending contest, I
would come in second. I readily admit
I'm not going to grow the size of the
federal government like is..."

"...The President will enforce fiscal
discipline on Congress, because when
spending is out of control, deficits increase
and our economic growth is hindered..."

10/3/00

: "...the surest way to bust this economy
is to increase the role and the size of the federal
government..."

Federal spending has grown twice as fast
under Bush compared to what it was under Clinton/Gore

Real good call in !

6/12/99

: "...I’ll work to end tariffs and break down
barriers everywhere, entirely, so the whole world trades
in freedom. The fearful build walls. The confident
demolish them. I am confident in American workers and
farmers and producers. And I am confident that America’s
best is the best in the world..."

FLOP
Bush added new tariffs on steel, textiles, and (Canadian)
lumber and revoked Caribbean trade privileges. He signed
outrageous agricultural subsidies bill. He signed
outrageous Medicare Bill providing huge subsidies to
rich pharmaceutical companies. He is pushing
a huge subsidy-laden Energy Bill for energy companies.

(Partial) FLIP AGAIN
Bush eliminates steel tariffs

12/4/03

Tariffs should be imposed because industry growth
and industry jobs are at risk

: "...I took action to
give the industry a chance to adjust to the surge
in foreign imports and to give relief to the
workers and communities that depend on
steel for their jobs and livelihoods...The
industry made progress increasing productivity,
lowering production costs, and making America
more competitive with foreign steel producers. Steel
producers and workers have negotiated new
groundbreaking labor agreements that allow
greater flexibility and increase job stability"

6/17/00, 10/26/00

: "...I believe in local control of schools..."

: "...I believe education is a national
priority, but it's also a local responsibility. I want
to give schools -- I want to give schools the
resources and authority to chart their own path
to excellence. My opponent thinks Washington
knows best..."

Through the Orwellian No Child Left Behind (NCLB)
Act, Bush imposed Federal control over schools.

Additionally by underfunding NCLB he has
NOT given schools the resources
"to chart their own path to excellence".

As a result multiple states are either
challenging or opting out of NCLB.

1/30/03

Eulogized Boys and Girls Clubs as role models
for children

: "...I want to thank the Boys & Girls
Clubs across the country…The Boys & Girls Club
have got a grand history of helping children
understand the future is bright for them, as well
as any other child in America. Boys & Girls Clubs
have been safe havens. They're little beacons of
light for children who might not see light. And
I want to thank them for their service to the country..."

Proposed cutting funding for them by
15% in 2003 after having proposed cutting
off all funding for them in 2002

6/27/00

: "...I would work with our friends in OPEC to
open up the spigot, to increase the supply...Use
the capital that my Administration would earn,
with the Kuwaitis or Saudis, and convince
them to open up the spigot."..."

Did not ask OPEC to "open up the spigot" but rather
put faith in cartels to adjust supply on their own

9/4/00, 10/3/00, 10/26/00

: "...in stark contrast to the last few
decades, which has clearly said, "If it
feels good do it, and you've got a problem
blame somebody else," our vision says each of us
must understand we're responsible for the
decisions we make in life..."

: "...For too long our culture has sent this
message: if it feels good, do it. And if you've
got a problem, just go ahead and blame
somebody else. Each of us must understand
that's not right. Each of us must understand that
we're responsible for the decisions and choices we
make in life..."

: "...I think that people need to be held
responsible for the actions they take in life...people
in the highest office of the land must be responsible
for decisions they make in life. And that's the
way I've conducted myself as governor of Texas.
And that's the way I'll conduct myself as president
of the United States, should I be fortunate enough
to earn your vote..."

Some Examples

1. When it was reported that national security
was underfunded, Bush blamed the GOP-led
Congress for it even though he played a full role in
the underfunding.

2. When Democrats objected to lack of labor
protections in the Homeland Security department
that Bush initially opposed, he outrageously
claimed that Democrats are not interested in the
security of Americans.

3. When it was revealed that he used a false statement
in the 2003 SOTU (Uranium in Africa), he refused to take
responsibility for it initially, placing blame squarely
on the CIA. Only after being reminded repeatedly of his
campaign pledge did he accept "responsibility".

4. Bush claimed someone in the navy was responsible
for the "Mission Accomplished" banner when in fact
the White House played a key role in putting it up
in his aircraft carrier speech.

3/7/00

: "...I will bring honor to the process and honor
to the office I seek. I will remind Al Gore that Americans
do not want a White House where there is 'no
controlling legal authority.' I will repair the broken
bonds of trust between Americans and their
government..."

10/3/00

: "...We need to have a new look about
how we conduct ourselves in office. There's
a huge trust. I see it all the time when people
come up to me and say, "I don't want you to let
me down again." And we can do better than
the past administration has done. It's time for a fresh
start..."

2/26/02

Will tell the American people the truth at all times

: "...We'll tell the American people the truth..."
(responding to questions about whether
the US would lie on defense policy)

A combination of lies, deception and
misleading statements compassionate conservatism
did exactly the opposite of "bonding" or establishing trust

On top of that he did nothing much when
two of his senior staff illegally outed an
undercover CIA officer in an act of revenge.
Paul O'Neill's expose on TV about his
administration, using legally cleared data prompted an
"investigation" immediately, while the Valerie
Plame expose took months to even get to the
Justice Department.

Time and again, his Cabinet members or officers make
offensive or contradictory statements or claims and
Bush rarely bothers to correct or dismiss them or show his
"controlling legal authority". (A recent example is Rod
Paige's labeling on the NEA as a "terrorist organization").

10/3/00

: "...I believe they've moved that sign,
‘The buck stops here,’ from the Oval Office desk
to ‘The buck stops here’ on the Lincoln bedroom,
and that's not good for the country. It's not right.
We need to have a new look about how
we conduct ourselves in office..."
(referring to sleepovers in the Clinton WH)

Bush essentially converted the Oval
Office into the Lincoln Bedroom

CBS: President Bush and first lady Laura Bush
have invited dozens of friends and relatives to
sleep over at the White House, from Republican
fund-raisers to Texas pals such as pro golfer
Ben Crenshaw and country singer Larry Gatlin.

WaPo: It didn't take too long for the Bush White
House to make the same discovery as its predecessors:
the enormous money-raising potential of an incumbent
administration. Vice President Cheney soon opened
the vice president's mansion to big givers. Health and
Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson briefed
donors in his government office. Now, with the
2004 campaign officially underway, and the president
poised to vacuum up $170 million or more, a
new lure is being dangled to those who can
raise the big bucks: lunch with
presidential adviser Karl Rove.

1/23/02

: "...I have no ambition whatsoever to
use this <9/11> as a political issue..."

9/11 can legitimately be used as a political issue

Examples: Rove tells GOP that they should exploit
9/11 in the elections; Bush falsely accuses Democrats of
not being interested in the "security" of the American
people; Bush supports misleading, nasty
ads against previously supportive Democrats accusing
them of being weak on security; Bush runs campaign ads
exploiting 9/11 dead and firemen; etc. etc.

When I was a kid it was 60 cents a six-pack. And still not worth drinking.

Even Budweiser is better. (And it is horse piss.)

and listening to Sean Hannity. LOL!

shrubbie got his MBA from Harvard when he went back to school after his TANG fiasco. Not to say the pappy didn't pull strings to allow them to pass him there either.

I hear on Franken that limpbowels was taking some days off last week, at least from AA's first day thru the end of the week. The replays they ran very well may have been from before the news of his pill popping broke.

Nitpicking, I know. great job Guy!

http://www.bopnews.com/archives/000486.html#000486

He begins with the strategy Richard Clarke worked on (and discusses in his book) to prevent Kamikaze Aircraft from being used at the 1996 Atlanta Olympics; These were applied to several other situations:

As a consequence, a strategy for protecting airspace over special events was drawn up by the National Security Council staff for the Atlanta Olympics in 1996, in response to concerns about possible Iranian-backed terrorism. It included closing airspace over events to civilian air traffic, placing armed Air National Guard fighter jets on alert at a nearby base and launching on patrol a small air force belonging to the U.S. Customs Service, including jets, Black Hawk helicopters and a special radar-equipped plane. The customs service had the aircraft to interdict drug smuggling.

The article also notes the plan was also used for:

· Mr. Clinton's second inauguration in 1997
· North Atlantic Treaty Organization's 50th anniversary celebration in Washington in 1999
· Republican and Democratic conventions in 2000.
· Bush inauguration in 2001

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/01/opinion/01DOWD.html

Another necessary condition, in keeping with the tenets of executive privilege: Mr. Cheney will require that the Commission observe the rules of his favorite show from the Eisenhower Administration, "What's My Line?" The panelists, in the manner of Dorothy Kilgallen and Bennett Cerf, must try to guess what the President and Vice President didn't know and when they didn't know it through questions that elicit a "yes" or "no."

After 10 "no" answers, the panel will not be allowed to question Mr. Cheney or anyone else in the Administration ever again. In the mystery-guest round, Richard Ben-Veniste, Bob Kerrey and other Democrats on the Commission will be blindfolded.

That beep beep beep has always worried me

he (Clarke) did not activate the system. From page 9 of "Against All Enemies":

Cressey suggested we activate the Emergency Broadcast System. "And have them say what?" <Clarke>.

This was just after the pentagon was hit.

We just didn't know !

The evidence would lead anyone to the conclusion that the Bush Regime
was well aware of al-Qaeda's plans and some of the warnings included
the possibility of planes as missiles. The only real question is WHY
he took no action.

http://www.sundayherald.com/24822

Sunday Herald - 19 May 2002
Britain warned US to expect September 11 al-Qaeda hijackings
By Torcuil Crichton, Westminster Editor

Britain gave President Bush a categorical warning to expect multiple airline hijackings by the al-Qaeda network a month before the September 11 attacks which killed nearly 3000 people and triggered the international war against terrorism.

According to US government officials, the British warning of al-Qaeda plans to hijack US airliners was contained in a crucial briefing sent to Bush on August 6, a month before the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.

I Hate Republicans song on the show in many weeks. Was the decision made not to play it when they moved to the new studios? Was it too radical? It sure used to pump me up.

It even made me cringe.

Got the speakers hooked up and am listening along with you. Can't keep up with the posts and listen to the show on this poor old back-up comp. Asking it to open the web and the windows media player at the same time is almost too much for it. :(

Just wanted to check in and say hi to everyone.

and Guy - :loveya:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL

Willie Brown got low-key early warning about air travel
September 12, 2001

For Mayor Willie Brown, the first signs that something was amiss came late Monday when he got a call from what he described as his airport security - - a full eight hours before yesterday's string of terrorist attacks -- advising him that Americans should be cautious about their air travel.

It was George McGovern (not fellow midwesterner Eugene McCarthy) that was the WWII bomber pilot who won the distinguished flying cross.

Good show !

Where is Frank today?

please explain, what did I miss?

W ran saying he believed in Affirmative Access not Affirmative Action ! Now we know what that means !

I believe and most rational people believe in Affirmative Action but here old Bush claims he believes in Affirmative Access and I kept saying...anyone seen this access demonsrated? IT is just the ooposite of Affirmative Action...You know kinda like compassionate conservatives

Yeah Brit Hume said Get over it !
How does one have a life changing experience and Get over it !
They told the Vietnam vets that and still telling em...They will be telling The Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom vets that as well. GET OVER IT !

Saying the economy is fine...and yet we have lost more jobs under this administration ! Liar Liar !

Please phone home. :-)

and what ever you do, don't hit the third button Guy.

Rock on !

C'mon Guy!

Do we really have to go over Clinton's lie again. This is a distraction Guy...nail him!!!!!!1

They are called Sociapaths !

Sociopath is nice too though.

Arrgh!

"Not only are you STUPID, but you're UGLY too."

They drank the Koolaid !

never said that 9/11 could not have been prevented. What he said what this (from page 238 of his book):

Could we have stopped the September 11 attack? It would be facile to say yes. What is clear is that there were failures in the organizations that we trusted to protect us, failures to get information to the right place at the right time, earlier failures to act boldly to reduce or eliminate the threat.

I'm home in time this week!

:hi:

We know Iraq had WMD because Ronnie Raygun sent Rummy to deliver various
chemical and biological weapons in 1983 and 1984 and reassure Saddam
after he "gassed the Kurds". Before the war Saddam was quoted as saying
he had WMD at one time but destroyed them. Even if they were not destroyed, the weapons would no longer be effective.

The lies below was known to be false before Bush started using them and yet he told them over and over.

"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment need for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons." - President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in Cincinnati.

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." - President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.

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"We believe has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons." - Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the Press."

There was and is absolutely zero basis for this statement. CIA reports up through 2002 showed no evidence of an Iraqi nuclear weapons program.

I think it takes true talent to talk to stupidity and not want to crash the phone system !

"We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases ... Alliance with terrorists could allow the Iraqi regime to attack America without leaving any fingerprints." - President Bush, Oct. 7, 2002

No evidence of this has ever been leaked or produced. Colin Powell told the U.N. this alleged training took place in a camp in northern Iraq. To his great embarrassment, the area he indicated was later revealed to be outside Iraq's control and patrolled by Allied war planes.

"We know where are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat." - Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003, in statements to the press.

Needless to say, no such weapons were found, not to the east, west, south or north, somewhat or otherwise.

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) has released a report and database that identifies 237 specific misleading statements about the threat posed by Iraq uttered by the five Administration officials most responsible for providing public information and shaping public opinion on Iraq: President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice. Covering 125 public appearances in the time leading up to and after the commencement of hostilities in Iraq, "Iraq on the Record" can be searched by any combination of speaker, subject, keyword, or date. The Nation's David Corn writes, "If the commission Bush begrudgingly appointed to study the prewar intelligence on Iraq's WMDs is going to investigate whether Bush abused the intelligence, this website would be of tremendous value to it. ... But Waxman's report practically makes it unnecessary for the commissioners to worry if Bush falsely characterized the prewar intelligence. After all, why bother bother investigating a question with such an obvious answer?"

Read the report here:
http://www.house.gov/reform/min/features/iraq_on_the_record/

"We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they're weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control arrangements have been established." - President Bush, Feb. 8, 2003, in a national radio address.

Despite a massive nationwide search by U.S. and British forces, there are no signs, traces or examples of chemical weapons being deployed in the field, or anywhere else during the war.

"Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets." - Secretary of State Colin Powell, Feb. 5 2003, in remarks to the UN Security Council.

Putting aside the glaring fact that not one drop of this massive stockpile has been found, but, as previously reported, our own intelligence reports show that these stocks - if they existed - were well past their use-by date and therefore useless as weapon fodder.

Coalition of bribed, coerced, intimidated is crumbling - Thailand, New

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=590&e=2&u=/ap/new_zealand_iraq_troops

New Zealand to Pull Iraq Army Engineers
Fri Apr 2, 7:15 AM ET

WELLINGTON, New Zealand - New Zealand will pull its army engineers out of Iraq (news - web sites) in September - but they may return later, Prime Minister Helen Clark said Friday.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040403/ap_on_re_mi_ea/thailand_iraq&cid=540&ncid=1480

Thailand Mulling Early Iraq Withdrawal

BANGKOK, Thailand - Thailand may withdraw its forces from Iraq (news - web sites) earlier than planned due to concerns about violence in the country after the United States transfers power to Iraqis on June 30, a government spokesman said Saturday.

:D

Should we serve him with a slice of lemon and some horseradish?

please

Going to the convention!

Who is this woman....

Yet she just stated a lie about alqueda.

Sorry Buffalo Bob......

http://www.sunspot.net/news/opinion/bal-ed.bush19sep19,0,4542709.story?coll=bal-opinion-headlines

Originally published September 19, 2003

HOW'S THAT AGAIN?

President Bush said Wednesday, flat out, that there's no evidence Saddam Hussein had anything to do with Sept. 11.

Now he tells us.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20040318/ts_afp/iraq_worldwrap&cid=1503&ncid=1480

Bush says world better off after Iraq war, but allies chafe

BAGHDAD (AFP) - US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) staunchly defended his invasion of Iraq (news - web sites) almost a year ago, amid growing splits with allies over Washington's failure to find the weapons of mass destruction used to justify the war.

Poland's president said his country had been "taken for a ride" about the alleged existence of banned weapons in Iraq, but would not follow Spain's lead in threatening to pull out his troops.

Why We Went In: Version 10.0
by P.J. Crowley and Robert O. Boorstin
March 19, 2004

In the year since the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration has repeatedly shifted its justification for going to war and constantly changed its story on intelligence, the United Nations, reconstruction, political transition and the cost to the American taxpayer. More than anything, the administration's war in Iraq resembles a software program that, at first, works brilliantly, but then catches the user in a cycle of "fatal error" messages.
Here then, in Silicon Valley terms, is a review of the Bush administration's year in Iraq:

Saddam Hussein poses an 'imminent threat' to the American people.

Version 1.0 - Saddam Hussein is an imminent threat
Version 1.01 - Saddam Hussein is a gathering threat
Version 1.02 - Saddam Hussein poses a real and dangerous threat
Version 1.1 - The smoking gun will be a mushroom cloud
Version 1.2 - We can't afford to wait
Version 1.3 - We never said imminent
Version 1.3.1 - OK, maybe we did say it once or twice
Version 1.4 - We should have been more precise

more, lots more...


http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=38989&printm...
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chem weapons go bad!!!

link in my sig line for my latest CARTOONS! thread...

about 25 more there

Let us all call Air America ! In the meantime..I still think Guy is the best show on the air !

Guy,

I know for fact that the GOP (actually certain right wing think tanks) PAY people to call shows like yours. Some of these callers MUST be those paid people.

-Ben

saving money, you know

they already DO! for fundraising!!

They'll have a better command of the English language than your average freeper.

I'm flattered if thats what is happening.

What a great line!!!

Good Show....Guy.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=ap/kay_iraq

Kay: Bush Should Admit Error on Iraq WMD

Fri Feb 13, 3:50 PM ET

By BARRY SCHWEID, AP Diplomatic Writer

WASHINGTON - Former U.S. weapons inspector David Kay is advising President Bush (news - web sites) to acknowledge he was wrong about hidden storehouses of weapons in Iraq (news - web sites) and move ahead with overhauling the intelligence process.

In an Associated Press interview, Kay said the "serious burden of evidence" suggests Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) did not have caches of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons at the beginning of the Iraqi war, but was seriously engaged in developing missiles.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=484504

The 50 lies, exaggerations, distortions and half truths that took this country to war

25 January 2004

Whatever the outcome of the Hutton inquiry and the vote on top-up fees, the central charge this paper has consistently made against Tony Blair is that he took this country to war in Iraq on a false pretext. Raymond Whitaker and Glen Rangwala list 50 statements on which history will judge him and his US partners.

Saw Jack Van Impe say they he was talking to Condi Rice.
The people are really scary and I am a christian but have had my faith hijacked ! By Hippocrits

Nice kick ass ending.

:toast:

At http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org

I can't believe there are still people who genuinely believe in all those RW memes. :scared: