Democratic ads paid for by "illegal conspiracy of donors..."

...and shadowy groups" . Huh? Now this is chutzpah! Their boy king has collected over $170 million dollars, all above board and from small donations, no bundling or nothing questionable, and they question the donors to the Democratic Party. Shuuut Uuuup!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48304-2004Apr3?language=printer
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The Republicans argue that "this illegal conspiracy of donors and shadowy groups" is improperly spending soft money on television ads and other activities to defeat Mr. Bush. They say that the groups are illegally coordinating their activities with Sen. John F. Kerry's presidential campaign and the Democratic Party. And they say the situation is so dire, and the FEC's processes so cumbersome and ineffective, that the agency should take the unprecedented step of dismissing the GOP complaint so that the Republicans can obtain an immediate hearing before a federal judge.

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But the complaint does not provide the slam-dunk evidence of a "massive conspiracy to corrupt the federal campaign finance system" that its proponents contend. It's far from certain that the groups, known as 527s for the section of the tax code under which they are organized, are violating the law. As the RNC itself argued to the Supreme Court, the McCain-Feingold campaign finance legislation passed last year left interest groups, unlike political parties, "largely unrestricted in raising and spending unlimited, unregulated and undisclosed money from any source." The Supreme Court ruling changed the legal landscape, yet the contours of the new world remain uncertain. Indeed the FEC is writing rules to govern the operations of 527s. It's hard to see how a judge could intervene in the matter before those rules are even published.

...is required to hate Bush and want to see the fraud removed? How much coordination is required? What a bunch of jackasses. Scream about tort reform, but they are always the FIRST to get all litiginous <sp> when things aren't going their way...

democratic presidency are not allowed to decide what organizations they can give THEIR OWN money to, but the republican party (a group that makes your average $10.00 hooker on the street corner look respectable) can take thousands of dollars from rich donors, and that's all right.

Screw this bunch of hypocritical liars. This is a very bad move on their part. If they keep trying to prevent the public from donating to the political party and organizations of their choice, then there will be hell to pay. And if the Supreme Court tries to weigh in of this one, it will be a big mistake. That will be the final nail in the coffin of democracy in our country.

AMERICANS CAN CHOSE WHATEVER POLITICAL ORGANIZATION THE WANT TO REPRESENT THEIR VIEWS. This issue goes directly to the heart of individual rights, the right to select a candidate support him or her. What's different here, other than the fact that donors aren't getting a meal with a lying hypocritical jackass as they are forking over their money?

Our efforts are working. What a bunch of hypocritical a-holes.

You know the ones I'm talking about. The groups have names like, "Americans United for Saving Social Security", or "Americans for Health Care Reform", both of whom you would expect to be in favor of saving those programs instead of destroying them, which is their real intent.

Wasn't it bitchin' Mitch McConnell who screamed for years that McCain-Feingold was going to stifle "FREEDOM OF SPEECH"...and restrict groups for accessing the media???? Or did I live in a different universe at the time???

This is part of a full court press by this regime to intimidate and control the media. Not only do they want to shut the 527s off the airwaves, or severely limit them, they want to do this through the courts as to drain money from these groups. Yep, the 527s can spend unlimited amounts on TV ads, but the GOOP can spend endlessly on lawyers and hacks to harass and intimidate.

This thread reminds me: I need to send another donation to MoveOn.org. What are some other "shadowy groups" that I can send (modest) donations to???

and how stupid I was for supporting it.

I believe in this case Senator McConnell was correct in opposing it on free speech grounds.

or should be.

Plutocrats do not like popular movements.

Oh... yes they do....

Here in Washington state, we have a 'grass roots initiative' starter named Tim Eyeman. Loves to cut taxes....

That is he loves to cut taxes on SUV's, million dollar houses, and major business's. He loves to eliminate 'fees' that the government collects to repair the infrastructure. he also lies to his constituents about his doing this all for the common man and then pays himself 3100 dolars per WEEK our of his contributors donations.

Ahh... soon there wont be any money for the lazy fat people who are unwilling to work. there wont be any money for the poor old people who worked their entire lives sweeping floors for the money makers. There will only be money left to pay off the oil companies and to pay for more killing, imprisonment and war....


gotta love Amerikkka....


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Welcome to DU!! :toast:

A polite New Yorker....

And all this time the repugs say that you guys are rude....

I knew better

Thanks for the welcome...



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to get your message out their when people keep calling you lying scum! Those people are desperate! Don't be surprised if the try to get an injunction against 527's.

Just curious. There are so many right-wing groups raising soft money and making ads attacking Dems (remember the stupid one against Howard Dean when he was still the front-runner?).