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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:20 AM
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Don't know why I feel this way...
but I have the sneaky suspicion that Iran is just waiting for the right moment to jump into this. They have been just too quiet to suit me.
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:22 AM
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1. Um. They already have.
Sadr is pretty much aligned with the Ayatollahs.
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:27 AM
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3. I thought that I had heard that...
but wasn't sure! Guess I better pay closer attention! Actually, what really got my attention WAS the name Sadr. I remember when Khomeni was around their was a guy by the name of Hassan Bani-Sadr, and I think he may have been president of Iran during that time!
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jfxgillis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:41 AM
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12. As I understand it
This current Sadr and the earlier one are of the same clan, distant cousins.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:24 AM
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2. Iran is not that united
The religious government of Iran is hoping the US keeps Iraq occupied for many years, to reduce the threat to them. They are hoping the US's bloodlust is then slaked. I'm sure there are factions in Iran who would love to see Al-Queda come to power in Iraq.

That's the problem with decapitation policies-- you destabilize a government without being sure who will take its place. Far better to deal with a known entity than to eliminate him and discover he was the one keeping the peace.
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buddy22600 Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 08:53 AM
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4. the bloodlust will never fade.
bush will go after Iran, then N. Korea, then in his 3rd stolen term, he'll go after France and Germany. Then Jeb will come in and try to take over the rest of the world
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:22 AM
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7. You are right there
Whether it is a second term for W, or a short wait and another Repub pawn, this group has world domination in mind. They will not stop unless they are defeated, and it will take more to defeat them than a noble effort every four years. They must be defeated in the courts, in all elections, and in every battle we as individuals can wage on the editorial pages of papers, at the watercolors, in any articles we can publish, and in any organized deprogramming efforts we can muster.

As Buchanan said for the opposite side, we are in a battle for the heart and soul of this country, and for the legacy that was given us by generations past. And our enemy is evil, tireless, and well-funded, and they literally own the media.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:24 AM
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8. Actually I think Syria is next on the schedule.
Already have the Syria Accountability Act signed, don't they?
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King_Crimson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:07 AM
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5. Amazing...
CNN military analyst Gen. Grange just said he would not be surprised "if Iran is agitating the militants in Iraq". Guess my hunch is right! I hate it when I'm right about something like this!
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 09:22 AM
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6. Don't think so
In addition to the constant irritant of having storm troopers occupying your country, the lack of utilities and government services, and the overwhelming unemployment, there is the matter of who is going to write the Constitution and when the elections are going to occur.

Sistani said he was done talking to Americans about these subjects. What do you think that portends? Did the Iranians tell him to say this? This is much bigger than Sadr and Iran has little or nothing to do with it.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:30 AM
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10. But Bush may still believe it, and may even be encouraged to
Bush is shorthand for the whole cabal, obviously.

Bush is doing everything that Bin Laden's group wants him to do. He's overthrown Iraq for them. A few well-placed rumors, some false intelligence, and Bush the Attack WeinerDog will bite the head off Iran, and open that door Al-Queda, too. Of course, there is the chance that Iran would side with Al-Queda without an invasion, and Bush's threats make that more likely, too.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:00 PM
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14. The neo-cons are anti Iran for two reasons
to regain Anglo-American proprietary access to Iranian energy resources lost when the Shah fell. Second, to attempt to eliminate a regional anti-Israel power whose economic and military growth are inevitable.

General Grange mistakenly believes that Sistani will assist in arresting and abating the al Sadr problem. Grange is far too conventional in his thinking. His rigid establishment viewpoint adds little to understanding the situation. He seems like a nice guy and knows a lot about Army ops but the notion that the Army has excess combat manpower to call on in this situation is stretching the truth.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 12:22 PM
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15. Sure, that too.
Which makes it easier to manipulate Bush-- he wants what they want him to do.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:26 AM
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9. Iran already has fingers in this, but,
if they really feel like the attack from the US is inevitable, they would be stupid not to get more involved in Iraq. The only reason they arent there already is that the international community wouldnt allow it.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:35 AM
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11. Hell, even if they were stone neutral
we're giving them reason to be nervous about Iraq as staging ground for incursions into Iran. We've been recruiting former Mukhabarat, specifically the faction that was tasked by Saddam to foment insurrections in their country.
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BabsSong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-04 10:41 AM
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13. Both sides are feeling up each other
I can understand why Iran might be messing around because we are obviously up to something within their country. Why are they parading the Shah's widow around US television and portraying her like this "fairy queen seeking to regain her kingdom from the Evil Doers for herself and her children"? The Shah could have given lessons to Sadaam on how to be a brutal son of a bitch. But isn't it a great image?--US fights to put Cinderella back on her throne!!!
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