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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 03:21 AM
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CLIMATE CHANGE
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 03:40 AM by G_j
-Vital Climate Graphics:

INTRODUCTION TO CLIMATE CHANGE:
http://www.climateark.org/vital/intro.htm

OBSERVED CLIMATE TRENDS
http://www.climateark.org/vital/trends.htm

POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE
http://www.climateark.org/vital/impacts.htm

-Climate Change Portal http://www.climateark.org/news
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**Pentagon report on climate change
http://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1153530,00.htmlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,12374,1153547,00.html
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**Global Warming Spirals Upwards
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0328-08.htm
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**'US Climate Policy Bigger Threat to World than Terrorism'
www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0109-02.htm
Published on Friday, January 9, 2004 by the lndependent/UK
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**Revealed: how global warming will cause extinction of a million species
http://www.peopleandplanet.net/doc.php?id=2113
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**Global Warming is Here Now,Say U.N. Delegates http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/121403G.shtml
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**Global Warming Kills 150,000 People a Year, Warns UN
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/121303G.shtml
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**The Four Degrees (7.2 degrees Fahrenheit): How Europe's Hottest Summer Shows Global Warming is Transforming Our
World
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=471135
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**Earth Warming at Faster Pace, Say Top Science Group's Leaders
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1218-01.htm
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**Climate Change Laid to Humans
Report Warns There's 'No Doubt' Industry is Primary Cause
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1204-04.htm
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**Carbon dioxide levels blow sky high
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1076856.htm
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**Air Travel 'Of Enormous Concern' for Global Warming
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2717343
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**Ice Shelf Break in Arctic Attributed to Climate Warming
http://www.climateark.org/articles/reader.asp?linkid=25808
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**Melting Ice 'Will Swamp Capitals'
http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/120903H.shtml
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**Inuit begin rights case over global warming
www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/15/1071336885565.html
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**Global warming imperils ski slopes
Resorts need to move uphill as snow line continues retreat.
http://www.news-leader.com/today/1203-Globalwarm-232039.html
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:50 AM
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1. Hmmm....
Input overload???? :kick:
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 06:57 AM
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2. Not yet.
The Methodic Demise Of Natural Earth

Now. The overload is complete. Brain...melting. Must...watch...Focks.

:freak:
dbt
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:40 AM
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5. mmm..
I'll have to say I've found myself wondering about such things.
:tinfoilhat:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:20 AM
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7. because there was one of those periodic
'global warming' 'debates' going on. I thought I'd post this for reference. :-)
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:27 AM
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3. Don't forget the IPCC
Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis

http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:05 AM
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6. excellent link, thanks! nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 07:39 AM
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4. WE need, thats NEED, a CLIMATE CHANGE DEPT. with its own
Secretary. But Bush has his head up its ass what with the mess he got him self into.

"I told you not to go into the fool war!!" "But no.... you had to do it YOUR way". "Now look"
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:55 AM
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8. Not to worry, some scientists think this is precursor to the next ice age
Coming SOON! Maybe as soon as the next 10 to 20 years is what I seem to recall some UK scientists saying.

In the last Ice Age, the southern boundary of the continental ice sheet stretched down the center of Long Island, through New York City, across New Jersey and Pennsylvania to Southern Illinois and Missouri, then up the Plains States through Montana and Washington State---all buried under one to two miles of ice!!

Some glaciers are EXPANDING right now. Check it out.

(This is from the most recent issue of 21st Century Science and Technology,
by Lawrence Hecht, editor-in-chief. )

<snip>

“Is a New Ice Age Under Way?” The growing Nisqually Glacier in Washington State points that way.

"Watch out, Al Gore. The glaciers will get you!" With that appended note, my friend, retired field geologist Jack Sauers, forwarded to me a report that should have been a lead item in every newspaper in the world. It was the news that the best-measured glacier in North America, the Nisqually on Mount Rainier, has been growing since 1931."

"The significance of the fact, immediately grasped by any competent climatologist, is that glacial advance is an early warning sign of Northern Hemisphere chilling of the sort that can bring on an Ice Age. The last Little Ice Age continued from about 1400 to 1850. It was followed by a period of slight warming. There are a growing number of signs that we may be descending into another Little Ice Age-all the mountains of "global warming" propaganda aside."

<snip>

"Geologically and climatologically speaking, we are due for another such glacial advance . . . and in some places (it) may already be taking place.

"Since 1980, there has been an advance of more than 55% of the 625 mountain glaciers under observation by the World Glacier Monitoring group in Zurich. (From 1926 to 1960, some 70-95% of these glaciers were in retreat.)

"That brings us to the Nisqually glacier, up on the 14,410-foot Mount Rainier, near Tacoma, Wash.

<snip>

" Between 1994 and 1997, the glacier thickened by 17 meters at 2,800-m altitude, indicating probable glacier advance during the first decade of the 21st century."

"That's the story from Mount Rainier. Retired geologist Sauers, who has been observing conditions in the Cascade Mountains of western Washington for a lifetime, says "I'm preparing for an Ice Age." Perhaps we all should."

Click here to see the full article:

http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/Ice_Age.html



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Bowser Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:58 AM
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9. www.ipcc.ch
It'll give you all the facts on global warming you need.
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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:09 AM
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10. Thank you. People don't get this.
They hear global warming and think, "what? it's been cooler the last few years. global warming is bullshit"

We're talking about Climate Change - People understood what El Nino did. Global climate change is more abstract, like that.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:19 AM
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11. "People understood what El Nino did"

true, you won't find many arguing with that, but as you say many miss that it's all interconnected.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0329-01.htm
Published on Monday, March 29, 2004 by the Agence France Presse

Rapid Growth of "Dead Zones" in Oceans Threatens Planet


JEJU, South Korea - The spread of oxygen-starved "dead zones" in the oceans, a graveyard for fish and plant life, is emerging as a threat to the health of the planet, experts say.

For hundreds of millions of people who depend on seas and oceans for their livelihoods, and for many more who rely on a diet of fish and seafood to survive, the problem is acute.

Some of the oxygen-deprived zones are relatively small, less than one square kilometer (0.4 square miles) in size. Others are vast, measuring more than 70,000 square kilometers.
<snip>

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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:20 AM
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13. oh yeah
El Nino was the closest thing I could think of that average joe would have heard of/maybe understand.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:20 AM
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12. You should also drop this in the enviromental forum.
A little cross posting never hurt anyone.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:05 PM
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14. good idea
I put it here because it's not completely preaching to choir and the issue has been up.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:19 PM
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15. And a critical issue it is!
the chior needs to be expanded on this one. Climate change could end us, and in within many DUers lifetimes, but there's still time to make positive changes that may prolong life on earth!
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:32 PM
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16. Thanks for the links.
This interests me and scares me and not enough people are taking this seriously. (Are you listening, W?)
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:41 PM
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17. NO, the *dimwit is not.
My skin is sun sensitive and I MUST. Nothing more here than anecdotal evidence.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 04:50 PM
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18. And if things keep going the way they seem to be going,
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 04:54 PM by Kool Kitty
this could be a major life-changer in our own lifetime. There is a lot of evidence out there, not all of it anecdotal.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 05:26 PM
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19. I dunno...
Seems ta be happnin' even as we type...
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 07:23 PM
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20. yep n/t
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Hemprus Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-07-04 07:27 PM
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21. Great links!!
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