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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:41 AM
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using mercenary corporations avoids all 'environmental' laws
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 08:48 AM by amen1234


the United States Military is THE biggest polluter of all times...

by using 'contract killer' companies for U.S. Military training, OUR military AVOIDS all environmental laws....

shooting ranges pollute soils and water with carcinogenic chemicals, like nitrosoamines...

in recent years, the U.S. Military has been forced to clean up some of these nasty pollutants on their shooting ranges...us older people FOUGHT for the military to clean up their shooting ranges in the 70's, as often, they simply abandoned the property or sold it to some unsuspecting city, who then got CAUGHT with a highly polluted piece of property...wallowing in carcinogens...IMO, blackwater will eventually abandoned their land, leaving carcinogens spreading for miles in groundwater and soils...and leaving US to clean up the horror...

private companies avoid all environmental regulations...the States of Virginia and North Carolina are not allowed to go onto private land of 'blackwater' to evaluate the shooting ranges for environmental regulations....nitrosoamines are no doubt spreading through ground/surface water and soils right now, spreading cancer-causing chemicals....

the ONLY possible way to save our children is to DEMAND that all military government mercenaries allow their shooting ranges to be inspected and regulated by FEDERAl employees from the EPA....(and the cost of those inspections and soil/water testing be paid for by the mercenaries).....

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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:48 AM
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1. I remember a roofing contract In Virginia
about 20 years ago at the Norfolk Navy base. A contractor low balled a job by almost 100 grand. Turns out the difference was asbestos removal. All the bidders included it but the guy that won the bid knew that those rules didn't apply to federal property. So where is that asbestos???????????
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:56 AM
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2. miltary was pulled into Federal environmental laws about 1985
not exactly long enough to clean up all their messes, all over America....the nuclear sites (hanford, rocky flats, pantex, mound, oak ridge, los alamos, savannah river and more) are STILL highly polluted and dance around the regulations all the time, since 'nuclear' is not considered 'military' and falls under the Department of Energy mostly....so they dance and hire expensive public relations spinners....

no matter how much they spin, it doesn't change the chemistry of the polluted sites...

IMO, training OUR military on these mercenary's property is just another way of avoiding the cost of complying with environmental regulations...AND those practices MUST be stopped....

the mercenaries should be FORCED, under their U.S. Government contracts, to be regularly inspected and tested, to comply with ALL environmental laws....AND pay for the costs of the inspections and testing.....
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 08:57 AM
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3. NC not allowed to go onto private land of 'blackwater'
As a North Carolinian, I'm interested in learning more about this claim. Do you have a link?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:04 AM
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5. call your State Health Department, and ask them if blackwater
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 09:06 AM by amen1234
is complying with environmental regulations...please let us know what they say (they'll say something like: it's private property, or we don't regulate Federal laws, or will claim ignorance)

ask them about 'nitrosoamines' from 'shooting ranges'
(pronounced: nye-troh-so-ah-means)


I worked for BOTH the Colorado State Health Department AND the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency...my experience is on environmental clean-up sites for the past 25 years....

so call your State Health Department and ASK that something be done....better yet, WRITE to your Congress reps....DEMAND that these Federal contracting mercenaries have environmenal inspections and testing, just like required today on all OUR military bases....


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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:19 AM
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6. here's the contacts for North Carolina Health Department....

call them up...ask about 'nitrosoamines' from 'shooting ranges' on military bases...afterall, blackwater is a military base, and it won't be long before pollutants that cause cancer are in YOUR groundwater and soils...these pollutants MOVE through water and are VERY difficult to clean up...

http://www.wastenotnc.org/sfhome/fedremed.htm


and WRITE to your congressional reps....I'm writing to mine, just to ask if these mercenaries are covered in their Federal Contracts for environmental damage and are paying for all testing and oversight regulation....

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:00 AM
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4. And then there's the Uniform Code of Military Justice
No problem at all for hired hitmen.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:37 AM
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8. The Unifrom Code of Military Justice
as well as the Geneva Convention. Bushco knows there is more than one way to skin a cat.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:28 AM
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7. It is getting to be a hard world to live in . New ages and.....
some times I find it hard to keep up. Not that it was good in the old days, but I just hoped it would get better. It is cleaner than it was in Maine any how. Hope we can keep it this way.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:37 AM
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9. here's the US-EPA criteria document for nitrosoamines...carcinogens
http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/pc/ambientwqc/nitrosamines80.pdf


EPA recommends 'zero' exposure to nitrosoamines...and writes about the bioaccumulation of these toxic chemicals in fish....do not eat fish with nitrosoamines....


(note: nitrosoamines are formed when exposives react with soils...these carcinogenic chemicals are found in soils/waters on all military bases...in recent years, this has forced the military to take extra steps with training using explosives, in order to keep nitrosoamines from forming...expensive but vital)...
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