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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:00 AM
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What was your first "Oh-oh" moment in the Bush Admin?
Given the fact that most of us were very worried about the damage he could do before the selection, we probably expected Dubya to do something obnoxious very quickly after he took office. I doubt that we knew just HOW MUCH damage he could do. He's even surprised me in how much damage he has done in such a short period of time.

But what was your first clue? What was the first thing he did that gave you a hint of how terrible his administration would be?

Mine first "Oh-oh" moment was when I learned that he classified all Presidential papers going back to Reagan. It meant to me that he was going to hide and control information and take that first, giant step toward fascism.

What was yours?
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:01 AM
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1. January 20, 2001 when I was in DC
protesting his inauguration. I knew we were in trouble then.

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:16 AM
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49. November 7, 2000..
I saw http://www.votescam.com all over again.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:02 AM
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2. Well my first moment wasn't with the "Bush Admin"
It was when I researched him and his record in 2000 when he was chosen by the republicans to run.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:12 AM
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11. Yep.
I was astounded they would try to run such a boob. It was alarmingly scary in fact.
Here in NY I kept saying: ' "Hillary vs. Lazio" is just a side show. The really scary thing is Bush- this asshole actually has a chance at getting elected.'

It is still astounding that he made it in there.
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:04 AM
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3. His choice of John Ashcroft for Atty General
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:29 AM
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29. I'll second that.
You knew it was gonna be bad, but this told you it was gonna be terrible.
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Brotherjohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:05 AM
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4. When the networks said "Wait a minute, Florida is still in play"
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:06 AM
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5. me too
the FL 2000 selection was a big "Uh-Oh!"
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:09 AM
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9. Yup, when the networks changed it from blue to red
and Jeb flew home and slept with Katherine Harris.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:06 AM
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6. Backing out of the Biological Weapons Convention in May 2001
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 09:07 AM by MetaTrope
Wondered what he was planning back then...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:07 AM
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7. when he announced he was running for office
He was a disaster for Texas and has been an incompetent, towel-snappping, frat boy, arrogant, would-be-royalty, shitstain since the day he was born.

Disaster waiting to happen.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:09 AM
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8. This is what my sister said. 'This guy will leave a mess every place he
goes. I have know men like this and they always let some one clean up their mess' so I did not have much hope and before he left the Capital he had signed some birth control thing, plus I saw how things were on c-span from Capital to the White House. He was already hated and you could hear it in the people along the street.A bad start and with his twins there, that did not have even any manners, it looked bad.
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Oddman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:10 AM
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10. When the Supreme Court stepped in . . .
I knew we were doomed . . .

"What? Me lie?"

“President” Bush Takes a Vacation!!!
http://www.arts-america.com/vacation.htm
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:38 AM
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35. that's the day all right--the breath just went out of me!
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 09:41 AM by librechik
the SCOTUS decision was the most crooked,illegal thing I'd ever heard of! They stated right out that it was to save Shrub from losing the election! It was like getting kicked in the stomach! How can I ever forget that and "move on?"

Also, on his first day in office he cancelled the international birth control info program. It was like he slapped all women as his first official act as president. I've been braced for a sh*tstorm ever since, and I haven't been disppointed.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:13 AM
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12. I had 3 moments......
1. Baker showed up in Florida

2. The Supreme Court handed down their illegal decision in which they stated the decision should not be used in any future cases as any kind of precedent.

3. When I saw all the people being appointed to his administration from his father's prior administration (cons and criminals from Iran-Contra). I told my husband then, before the inauguration, we were going to war.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:34 AM
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32. I am with you on all of the above.
I was out of the country for the first part, and had a bit of trepidation about coming back.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:13 AM
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13. When he debated Gore. He didn't know sh*t.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:15 AM
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14. The second I heard him start mumbling about Iraq
after 9/11. That very second I knew it...I knew that they were a bunch of corrupt-ass opportunistic motherfuckers.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:37 AM
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34. ditto n/t
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:16 AM
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15. When the first thing he did when he sat down at the desk...
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 09:17 AM by DeepModem Mom
in the (stolen) Oval Office was to sign that order affecting women around the world re. birth control, abortion. His fundie base was going to be served -- and he cared nothing about the opinion of the rest of the world --
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:17 AM
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16. Jan 20, 2001 - was in DC, he crawled through the back door
of the White House - where a group of our people gave him the proper reception ;-) Then he promptly gave a proclamation establishing that day (or Sunday?) as "Day of Thanksgiving and prayers" then promptly froze funds from clinics for women in poor countries.
I knew of "Jesus Day" in Texas - now I had the confirmation of a developing teocracy.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:18 AM
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17. the minute he got within 500 miles of DC
...in 2000 - everything else after that was, while utterly appalling and disgusting - was still expected. I figured whatever he could destroy, he would. Whatever issues faced this nation, he'd exacerbate them (economy, terrorism/national security, healthcare, environment - you name it...)

He is as I expected, and then some. There really was no 'uh-oh' moment, but there were a LOT of "I TOLD you so" moments...thousands - I've lost count of those!

One thing an idiot repuke is: predictable - not that they EVER cease to disgust, apall and amaze but they do so predictably.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:27 AM
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27. Yep!
"There really was no 'uh-oh' moment, but there were a LOT of "I TOLD you so" moments...thousands" Same here.
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SnohoDem Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:19 AM
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18. When I heard about the Tucker Carlson
interview where he mocked Carla Faye Tucker.

I found it stunning that he could be both cruel enough to think that way, and stupid enough to let it show.

Cruelty, stupidity, and near absolute power. I expected the worst.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:20 AM
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19. When he selected Cheney for VP
Cheney is one evil MF.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:57 AM
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40. Yeah - that was the moment...you knew...
that this was the RETURN of an group that had already been in power. Not a new administration...

Remember Cheney's first MTP as VP? He basically sentenced the USA to 4 years of gloom and doom.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:20 AM
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20. when he announced his Faith Based Initiative
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 09:23 AM by maddezmom
among other ones previous to him taking up residence.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:21 AM
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21. We he closed off Reagan's records
He signed an Executive Order that essentially nullified the Presidential Records Act of 1978.

Given that much of *'s administration (not to mention his own father) had also worked in the Reagan administration, his motives seemed pretty transparent to me. He was covering something up.
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:21 AM
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22. Jeffords leaving the Repukes and becoming independent
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Hunter_1253 Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:22 AM
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23. When I found out...
Rove was his spin doctor. Also, with the character assination of John McCain and the underhanded tactics used against a fellow party member, I knew Bush and his team would use every dirty trick in the book to steal the WH. Little did I know they would literally steal the election.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:23 AM
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24. A magazine blurb in October 1999
either Time or Newsweek when he said that "some people have too many rights".
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:39 AM
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36. How 'bout this one?
He was asked in Sept. 2000 about the looming deficit in Texas and while smirking, replied that he hoped he wouldn't be here to deal with it, that he was seeking a higher office. Translation, he was fixin' to stick it to the rest of America, like he had to Texas.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:24 AM
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25. gosh it started so early
remember the stem cell and the giving the money back and emptying treasury, oh and no child left behind we have that in texas. only way to get kid out of private, is if i can take him out of district to a public school.

i had him as governor, just the surprise how easily he got everything thru, that is what bothered me. and hearing how he presented to people, to look like he was stable, lol lol but all the while saw he wasnt
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:26 AM
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26. Dec. 12, 2000....The day SCOTUS Trashed our Constitution
It was clear to me we were in for a very rough time...
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:27 AM
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28. So many events to choose from
Pre-inauguration: When it became evident he didn't know squat during the debates. Also, when he showed his contempt for democracy by fighting the fair count of the Florida votes

Post-inauguration: While he did innumerable things in the first days to upset me, the first thing to affect me personally was when he thumbed his nose at visiting South Korean president and Nobel Peace Prize winner Kim Dae-jung, setting the stage for the molehill-to-mountain growth of North Korea as an Axis of Evil rogue nation.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:31 AM
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30. Election Night 2000
I couldn't keep my eyes open any longer (I had a baby at the time) so I went to bed around 9 or 10pm. I woke up at 4am, turned on CNN, and went "uh oh."

Hell, it may have been even earlier, when I first heard that the grinning, kill-happy dauphin was going to run for president. We Texans who keep up with things knew a loooonnnnng time ago what a disaster this boy was. Everything he touches turns to shit, and his daddy and daddy's friends always come along with the shovels. The fertilizer he left in his wake in Texas was bad enough, we sure did hate to see that happen on a nationwide scale. BUT EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE TEXANS ARE JUST STUPID ASSHOLES, RIGHT? No one would listen.
:mad:

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PfcHammer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:32 AM
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31. "Greecians" and "Pakis" & "Slovenia" and "Slovakia"
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:36 AM
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33. He kept saying we didn't need permission to go to war.
I kept thinking, "what's he doing? Why's he saying that?" This was back when it looked like we'd just find the weapons of mass destruction and go to war and it wouldn't be that controversial. I just kept thinking it was weird, he didn't need to act like a loose cannon and piss everyone off. I'm pretty moderate and I wasn't much against him until about the beginning of 2003 - now I think his administration is so dangerous.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:49 AM
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37. The P-3 incident with China
I was willing to give him a chance... but the way he backed down to China about our aircraft that they damaged and siezed... Business in China was more important than our servicemen... What's going on in Iraq is just more of the same; money making in Iraq by businessmen that support the administration is more important than the servicemen dying.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:55 AM
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39. Hey Hawker!!!
Good to see you again! :hi:
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:52 AM
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38. PNAC website. thought it was a hoax, then found it isn't a hoax.
"never mind, there are so many think-tanks"
there's only one think-tank where many of it's members did end up in government all at the same time, to execute plans they had been working on for at least a decade.
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RichardRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:58 AM
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41. When I first heard of his existence
and confirmed that he wasn't a breakaway son.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 09:59 AM
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42. When he started his WH appointments...
and set his transition team in motion the very next day after election night, when Florida hadn't been called for him yet, and wouldn't be for another month. He knew he had it in the bag. It was just a matter of employing his "fixers".
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Bowser Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:00 AM
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43. The fact that the Supreme Court selected him.
I knew it was all going down from there.
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GreatCaesarsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:05 AM
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44. when reagan made his father vice president
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:09 AM
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45. My "Uh-oh" moment came...
...before this administration even came into power. It was when I saw footage of him being interviewed by a reported who asked Bush if he knew the name of the president/prime minister (I think) of a particular country (I don't remember which one) and Bush replied quite arrogantly, "No. Do you?" And then, of course, there was that whole "fuzzy math" business in the debate with Al Gore. He might as well have looked into the camera and said, "This guy's a lot smarter than all of us. He's too smart for his own good. Vote for me. I'm as dumb as you." I was--and still am--horrified at the thought of this man being President.
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Supormom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:58 AM
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47. I believe it was Pres Musharaff of Pakistan
Not that he's been a significant player in US foreign policy over the past few years. (sarcasm/off)
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supercrash Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 10:29 AM
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46. Yup...rememeber it well
When Bush took the WH he told the public that the Clinton administration had trashed the place

His first act was to trash the Democrats with a lie...he set the pace for the next 4 years...and here we are today
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:07 AM
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48. When he said "recession"
during one of the debates.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:17 AM
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50. In 1998
when I saw him on MTP. I saw right thru him then.I knew his father was trouble, but the son was 300% worse.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:18 AM
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51. Remember the 2000 election night in Austin? I do. I was here.
It was chilly and rainy. A bunch of *'s supporters were massed outside the hotel where * and his family were holed up. Those people were outside in the rain showing their support, and that asshole didn't even bother to walk to the window to wave at them. He ignored them the whole night.

Of course, he'd been my governor for 6 years already, so I knew he was a complete fuck-up.
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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:23 AM
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52. When, as a candidate, he couldn't pronounce "subliminal"
Remember the "RATS" ad the GOP put out? Bush tried to say there was nothing "subliminal" about it, but he simply couldn't pronounce the word. He tried it FIVE times, but it came out as "subliminable" or "sublimal".

I thought to myself, "My god, what a dumbass!"
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:24 AM
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53. The day after his "acceptance speech" before the TX legislature
I watched his speech and was delighted because he looked like the frightened fraud he truly is. His eyes darted nervously back and forth from teleprompter to teleprompter except for when he would look briefly ahead and say a line, then he'd start the pingpong match again. I thought when it was covered in the news the next day everyone would see this and know what a dunce we have taking the office of president.

The next morning, however, I watched the news and was shocked to find that the video was heavily edited, i.e., they would should Bush for a couple seconds when he was looking straight ahead then cut away to show someone listening to him, then cut back when he was looking forward again, etc.

I knew then that the mainstream media were working with (for?) the new regime to pass this clown off. Little did I know to what extent this level of propagandizing was true.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:25 AM
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54. When Bush said that he admired Scalia and Thomas
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:33 AM
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55. Poindexter's appointment to head the IAO
Until Bush appointed Poindexter, a convicted criminal, to one of the most sensitive positions in government, I did not fully realize just how dangerous the Bush administration is. Any administration that would put a criminal in such a sensitive position is very dangerous.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 11:58 AM
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56. When Katherine Harris and her co-conspirators handed Smirky the election
I'm a Florida resident and I'll never get over the criminality that took place surrounding that bogus "election". When Kerry takes over in Jan 2005 I think there should be an investigation and when the truth is revealed erase every official act Smirky made while in office under fraudulent circumstances.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:00 PM
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57. My real oh-oh moment was Cheney and the secret energy task force.
That one set off big time alarm bells.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:03 PM
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58. Sitting in front of that phoney oval office set during the selection.
What a great set-up
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:07 PM
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59. I never had a bad moment because I told everyone around me in...
...1997 through 1999 that Junior was bad news to the nth degree. They all laughed at me and told me I was crazy to think that way. It's really funny, but I haven't heard much from them lately.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:10 PM
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60. When Busholini was nominated
as he was clearly unfit to be county dog catcher let alone President of the United States
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-04 12:11 PM
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61. On election night 2000 when Karl "the dweeb" Rove
Edited on Tue Apr-06-04 12:12 PM by mohinoaklawnillinois
showed up on NBC or Faux, I don't remember now, saying that Florida was still in play. I knew at that moment the election would be stolen.
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