BBV -- "The Clean-Up Crew" -- and it is already working

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2,000 Volunteers for Clean Voting Crew for Fall Elections

Have you heard the latest talking point used to promote invisible ballots? "Those critics of electronic voting shouldn't talk about concerns, because it will cause people not to vote."

Wrong. Hundreds of thousands of people are now becoming involved, and that's what democracy is all about!

And have you heard this: "But we can't do anything to solve this before the fall elections."

You know, that's almost unAmerican. We just have to roll up our sleeves and make it happen.

I hear this every day: "What can I do to help?"

Here's what you can do: Volunteer for the 2004 elections Clean Voting Crew and make your nomination for a trouble spot county that belongs on the "Top 10 Clean-Up" list, warranting special attention. We need crew members all over America.

Two things to do right now:

1. E-mail Bevharrismail@aol.com with "Volunteering!" in the subject line to join the Clean Voting Crew. We need more than 2,000 Crew members all lined up, practiced, and ready to go for fall, and this means getting started NOW.

1,000 Crew members will be popping up in local elections all over the place. We'd like you to be one of them. 1,000 more will be recruited in designated "Clean-Up" counties. Join the Crew! No one needs to know who you are, or where you are, except the Crew Coordinators.

What does the Clean Voting Crew do? You'll report what you see, ask questions, and relay information quickly to the media and for litigators.

We especially want Crew volunteers willing to go undercover inside the election process itself — we're already getting Crew volunteers who are election judges and election workers. People with access to the elections process include campaign managers, poll workers, and county employees.

Whether or not you have access to elections, do volunteer. If you want voting to make a difference, you've got to take actions to safeguard your own vote — real democracy.

If you can put together a little Clean Voting pod, that's even better. Recruit a few friends and family members and have some real fun ensuring the survival of democracy.

2. Please go to http://www.blackboxvoting.org to submit your nomination for a county you think may deserve extra scrutiny, for a "Top 10 Clean Up Site" award, because in each of the Top 10 Clean-Up Counties, we'll be assigning someone to EVERY SINGLE polling place in September and November — about 100 Clean-Up Crew members per Clean-UpCounty.

We'll have a contest to select the Top Ten Clean-Up Counties. So far, the nominees are: Riverside County, CA. Comal County, TX. San Diego County, CA. Fulton County, GA, El Paso County, CO. Nominate away.

Members of the Clean Up Crew will not be doing anything like exit polling. Nope, the Clean Up Crew will act as on-the-spot first-person reporters, will be equipped with a list of problems to watch for, and will be set up with a network to report problems instantly to media and to litigators.

SURPRISE: This is actually a preventive measure

We're developing a list of recommended Clean Voting procedures, which includes, of course, a Voter Verified Paper Ballot, but also simple bookkeeping procedures like posting totals at polling places and comparing them with county tabulator results.

Counties that implement our recommended list of security procedures ahead of time can get themselves removed from the Clean Up list, if they are nominated for it, but will still have a few Clean Voting Crew members watching to make sure they implement better election integrity procedures.

NOTICE FOR COUNTY REGISTRARS: Those who refuse to comply with recommended Clean Voting procedures can expect media and documentary film producers to pop up everywhere, documenting every aspect of the voting system that does not inspire confidence. Complaints will be encouraged, and counties who don't follow Clean Voting procedures will become exhibits in post-election litigation, which is being organized now.

In the March 2 election, our Clean Voting Crew spotted significant problems in five different places. This was a tiny test project, and we only had 20 people involved. Let's get good, solid, trustworthy, transparent, secure, sound accounting back into the voting system ahead of time, because if we don't, with over 2,000 on-the-spot Clean Voting Crew members in November, we'll end up with an undesirable fiasco, throwing election results into question.

CITIZENS: It's up to us.
ELECTION OFFICIALS: Let's solve this now.
INVISIBLE BALLOT VENDORS: Quit blocking the road.

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http://www.blackboxvoting.org

"But we can't do anything to solve this before the fall elections."

That is 100% true for touchscreens in Nov. It is too fucking late to put printers on them. The Court case in Florida is a waste of time for this ELECTION. Even if they win in the first Court, Jeb and friends will stall it thur as many Courts as they can.

There is just not enough time to BUY and put printers on the thousands of touchscreens even if they win.

Voting Absentee is the only answer NOW for touchscreen counties

Democrats need to get the word out NOW or face maybe voting for Bush

If you are in a touch screen county, you should absolutely get an absentee ballot and then, bring it directly to the elections division to submit it (rather than subjecting it to the postal sorting, often done by a private company with little or no scrutiny and no employee background checks). The easiest way to tamper with absentee ballots is to disappear some ballots in key areas.

However, the next easiest way is to tamper with the central tabulator. We have now found tamper-friendly central tabulator software in both Diebold and Sequoia.

Understand that absentee ballots, like optical scan ballots, are just run through a scanner, which uses computer language to interpret and count the ballots. In no state have we found adequate measures in place to ever compare the paper ballot with what that machine says. In fact, it is in optical scan counties that we documented the most egregious errors in 2000 and 2002.

After driving California interviewing elections officials and poll workers, I can tell you that we uncovered very significant problems with elections, but only about 10 percent would have been solved by eliminating touch screens.

The people I interviewed were anxious to report the problems they observed -- and they worked inside the election system! It's just that no one seemed to want to listen to the problems they experienced. Yet, when we began exposing these things, the press did listen, and began writing about it.

Folks, if you want any votes to count, you have to take responsibility for your own vote, and sometimes that means going in and actually becoming involved in the process.

Bev

absentee voting is the only way to cast a vote that can be re-counted or spot checked.

.....and paper ballots used in their place if the decision is made 180 days prior to election day. It is NOT too late to make that happen.

Know your election law! :evilgrin:

and when they have violated consumer protection laws, one form of restitution would be to make them equip the counties with optical scans for September at their own expense. That would be cheap, compared with treble damages.

Bev

voting absentee is the only way now in touchscreen counties to get a vote that could get re-counted.

Do you have a link to that? :shrug: LOL! :evilgrin:

Could get counted provided the outcome is within 1/4 - 1/2 of 1% of the vote!

Do you even know your own election laws in Florida?
Florida Code Title IX ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS

Pay close attention to the section Chapter 102 CONDUCTING ELECTIONS AND ASCERTAINING THE RESULTS. :(

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=CH0101/Sec68.HTM

In Hillsborough County (Tampa) Not only is there the normal Canvassing Board but representatives from the major parties watching.

Can the phyical ballot be handed counted, YES. Just like the punch cards were hand counted in 2000.

Which optical scanners can be programmed to change votes, if a hand count was done and the vote totals were different, that could lead to all being hand counted. Crimmals do not want a paper trail. It could cost them jail time.

.....Number one, yes we still have time to get legal action to prevent the use of paperless touch screens this November. There are a number of ways that many people are working on as we speak to make that happen. The most promising one is getting H.R.2239 and S.1980, the Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act of 2003 on to the floor and passed! It was introduced by your own Senator Graham. :) :thumbsup:

Number two, read the law! You can only get a recount in an extremely close election. No one will ever hand count the ballots that are run through the OS machines unless the election is almost dead even. These machines can make quick work of fixing it so the outcome is nowhere near close enough to ever get a hand count. :( :thumbsdown:

In short you're placing too little faith in all those who are working very hard to get these machines set aside before November and way too much faith in an absentee ballot that in all probability will never be looked at by anyone other than whoever filled it out. You're also spreading disinformation!

ONE. You can not. I have been in the computer field for 30 year and know more about them than you. From the date the manufacturers are told to add printers to touchscreens, until they are on them with the certifited software to run them is one year min. There are tens of thousands of touchscreens installed today. To build the printers for that many is not a overnight thing.

H.R.2239 will not pass this year and make it thru the court challenges before NOV.

MOVE ON as Bush would say to something like pushing people to vote absentee NOW.

tampering with the central tabulator.

Remember Volusia County.

certified already:

Avante
AccuPoll
TruVote nearly there on its latest version

You also may not realize how strong the legal cases are, on consumer protection grounds, for obtaining injunctions on these things.

Also, there are lawsuits that reimburse treble damages for false claims. How do you know the counties won't get money back on these things, freeing them to bring in Avante, AccuPoll, or TruVote (or optical scan systems)?

In short: Yes, I'm behind you on the absentee ballot thing if they end up with touch-screens, but it is dangerous to let people think that will make elections secure. It won't, because they've dropped out the checks and balances, first with the mail-in sorting, next with some of the ballot handling (replacing), then with the central tabulator, and finally, in the spot-check recounts there is now evidence that some companies may be printing facscimiles for the spot check, not using real ballots.

So don't put all your eggs in the absentee basket, just one of them.

Bev

Remember almost all TS makers also make optical scanners. In the 2000 election there were like 3-4 states that had re-counts. Lets take Acme (beep-beep) Voting Machine Company. Acme makes both TS and Optical Scanners. If in a state in 2004 a re-count is called, if the counties that have optical scanners come up with wildly different results from the election then a hand count could be called. If in the end Bush got 10% more votes on election night over the hand count in EVERY county with Acme Optical Scanner, voter fraud would raise it's ugly head. Now without printers, people could only guess how many votes the TS changed for Bush.

IMHO, in a state that has both TS and Optical scanners from Acme, the Optical Scanners will ring true.

No absentee is not the 100% answer, printer and auditing requirements are the answer. But we are a YEAR to late for getting printers on TS for 2004.

In 2000 in Florida the Repugs were pre-printing requests for absentee ballots and sending them out. The Democrat Party needs to do that especially in TS counties.

Don't you think there's a real good possibility that the prospect of a statewide hand count in Florida scared the sh*t out of someone?

trigger a recount like New Mexico in 2000. The same companies are selling TS/OS to all states. It takes ONLY one case of voter fraud to let the cat out of the bag.

It doesn't count if it's not on paper. :spank:

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can do something in a Diebold controlled county.

We are getting people all over the country signing up for all kinds of systems.

Dan Spillane just signed up for the Clean Up Crew for Snohomish County, Sequoia touch-screens (he is the test engineer who used to build touch screens, then sued his own company alleging security flaws).

We're working on other people you know... :)

If you are already a poll worker, we'd love to know how your day went afterwards.

Bev

ignore this

She is starting to get interested in the blackbox voting scandal.


Has there been any responses from Kentucky?

I have made several copies of this and will pass it out at the Kerry Meetup we are having at my clubhouse tomorrow. There should be at least twenty or thirty people there. Thanks for the opportunity to help.

It's patriotic to watch your vote.

El Paso County, Texas

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King County, Washington

El Paso County Colorado nominated (Diebold touch screen)
El Paso County Texas nominated (ES&S, uncertified version)

Keep 'em coming. This'll be like "secret shoppers for Democracy"

Bev

it's Diebold

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.....and raise this to the top of the page! :evilgrin:

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Then do whatever it takes to get audits in suspect races. Pool resources and come up with the money, if necessary. Get to the parties and ask them to request a recount. Sometimes the parties get to call for a recount in a race or two.

Boycott the touch screens. Let your county election officials know ahead of time they better have paper ballots and have enough of them, if they use touch screens.

Gatewood Galbraith today. I mentioned BBV and he wants to know all about it. He has connections, is one hell of a lawyer, and loves fighting for the little guy.

PM me with any hints on what to send him, and who would be best for him to contact.

Gatewood is an original.

PM me his address and I'll send him a complimentary copy.

Bev

Be sure to tell him you'll "deliver it in person." :eyes:

JC

I guess you're not all bad.

Will do,

or will that be eliminated like in the 2002 mid-term elections? Does anyone know if this is going to happen or not? Seems the only real way to provide a true estimation of what's going on with the vote. :shrug:

Kick!

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